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Reality hits -- hate crimes headed to Obama's desk
ONE NEWS NOW.com ^ | 10/24/2009 4:15:00 AM | Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow

Posted on 10/24/2009 3:29:47 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: "A hate crimes bill sent to President Obama for his signature raises a red flag for Christians."

SNIPPET: "Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation."

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 111th; antichristian; bhohomosexualagenda; christains; christian; christians; democrat; democrats; firstamendment; hatecrimesbill; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; libertycounsel; nofreespeech; obama; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect

1 posted on 10/24/2009 3:29:48 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

2 posted on 10/24/2009 3:36:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If they won't "secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity," they won't secure yours either.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Any Kenyan usurper trumps the US Constitution.

Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this
presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly
(CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”

From the comment section:
(”AmericanDaughter“) NPR.org — “…She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.”

(”AmericanDaughter“) AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.” "


“Kenyan Historian: It's Odd that Kenyan Luo Tribe Member (Obama) Elected President in US Before Kenya (Audio)
We already knew that Barack Obama's brother Malik was a Luo activist and a militant Muslim
who argued that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture."



“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“


Br> “US Presidential Polls:Obama, McCain slug it out today
WASHINGTON – Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with
Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win.
The Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face a stiff competition from his Republican
counterpart, John McCain who has taken the presidential battle to the finishing line with
vigorous campaign strategies.”


“Americans Decide Today - go Obama (this site hasn't been scrubbed yet)
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.”


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “


"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."

3 posted on 10/24/2009 3:39:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: EternalVigilance

(Constitutionality of Health Care bill:)

Pelosi: ARE YOU KIDDING ME, ARE YOU KIDDING ME


4 posted on 10/24/2009 3:43:35 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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"Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, called the measure "part of a radical social agenda that could ultimately silence Christians and use the force of government to marginalize anyone whose faith is at odds with homosexuality."
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U.N. Makes it a “Hate Crime” to Insult Islam;
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I'm seeing a pattern here /s

There is a good and brief discussion of the unconstitutionality of the bill here:

http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner~y2009m10d23-Hate-Crimes-Bill-passes-eroding-civil-liberties-and-constitutional-doublejeopardy-safeguards
5 posted on 10/24/2009 3:48:31 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Cindy

The purpose of the bill is to put Christians, Jews, normalsexuals in jail for their thoughts, and to let scot free anyone who assaults Christians, Jews or normalsexuals.


6 posted on 10/24/2009 3:52:05 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Cindy
hate
–verb (used with object) as in HATE CRIME
1.to dislike intensely or passionately;
feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward;
to detest:
to hate the enemy;
to hate bigotry.

If someone were to dislike intensely or passionately, a pedophile, would it be a "hate crime"?

If criminalizing something that someone is passionate about is passed into law, that's the same thing as CRIMINALIZING THOUGHT.

HATE CRIME = THOUGHT CRIME

Hate Crime laws are more than an attack on free speech, they are an attempt to criminalize thought.


7 posted on 10/24/2009 3:54:21 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Canedawg

Not sure why the above didnt post as a hyperlink, but it is from a liberal site that popped up when I did a search of this subject.. Proponents of free speech oppose the law as well.

Some of their contentions include:

“The measure was opposed by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights on double-jeopardy grounds...the bill’s sponsors seek to use it to reprosecute people in federal court who have already been found innocent of hate crimes in state court, taking advantage of the “dual sovereignty” loophole in constitutional protections against double jeopardy.

Civil libertarians ...also object to the bill on double-jeopardy grounds.

Such re-prosecutions can be an enormous waste of money, and grossly unfair to the people who are reprosecuted, driving them into bankruptcy to pay lawyers to represent them all over again when they have already been found innocent in state court after an expensive trial.

When the government re-prosecutes someone, it gains an enormous tactical advantage over the defendant from using the prior prosecution as a test-run, even if the defendant is innocent — making a guilty verdict possible even if the defendant is in fact innocent.

The bill contains speech-related provisions designed to allow prosecution of people who are not violent and do not intend to cause hate crimes, but whose speech inadvertently incites a hate crime by some other...

For now, courts are likely to block such prosecutions on First Amendment grounds, under the Supreme Court’s Brandenburg decision banning prosecutions of people whose speech unintentionally incites violence or other illegal acts (and the federal appeals court ruling in White v. Lee faithfully applying that principle to speech that incites violations of federal civil-rights and anti-discrimination statutes).

But if the ideological composition of the Supreme Court changes substantially, it is conceivable (although far from certain) that that could change. Although the provisions will probably prove unsuccessful in censoring speech, it speaks volumes about the mindset of the hate-crimes bill’s backers that they would even try.

The bill also raises serious constitutional federalism issues under the Supreme Court’s Morrison decision...”


8 posted on 10/24/2009 3:58:14 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Cindy
Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.

Thank you!

9 posted on 10/24/2009 4:01:29 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Cindy

Maybe Obama is smarter that Congress and wont sign it.

Bwaahahahahahahahahahah I am so funny.


10 posted on 10/24/2009 4:18:42 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pyx

Thought Crime.


11 posted on 10/24/2009 5:04:30 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Cindy
Why do they always make a big to-do AFTER the fact on things like this. One of the commentaries in the morning paper talked about this. We here on FR know about this stuff happening, but the average person is concentrating on jobs, family, and going about their daily lives. Had the press gone into this BEFORE it happened, MAYBE it could have been stopped. It's frustrating to say the least.
12 posted on 10/24/2009 5:34:12 AM PDT by Humal
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To: Cindy

This is one area where the US has a lot to learn from muslims (and Africans, and Asians, and South Americans...)


13 posted on 10/24/2009 5:43:24 AM PDT by Carlos Martillo II (Guernica was a work of art...and I don't mean the painting.)
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To: Cindy

Obama is a usurper traitor.

LOL at CHARLIE BUTTS writing this.

Gotta take all the laughs we can get...


14 posted on 10/24/2009 6:31:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: myknowledge

That says it all, and in only 2 words.

Excellent!


15 posted on 10/25/2009 1:41:12 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Cindy

I really HATE this hate-crime crap.
I HATE zerobamaroid.
I HATE radical muslims.
I HATE all far left liberal scum.
I HATE what’s happening to this country.

Ok, you can lock me up now.


16 posted on 10/25/2009 1:44:53 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

I’m a housewife.

The only thing I lock up is the doors at home at night.

Now, as for hate, I don’t hate anyone or anything.

HOWEVER, it would be very easy for me to hate ____ (not enough space on FR to fill in all the blanks).

I don’t though, but because hate eats your guts right up and alters clear thinking.

My motto:
Each day is a gift from God — use it wisely.

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OPINION:

Now, regarding the hate crimes bill becoming a law...Conservatives, Conservative Christians and Conservative Jews who hold the traditional American values will be persecuted and prosecuted for our traditional Judeo-Christian values. We will bear the brunt of this. Unfortunately, history (for those who still follow history) will be our witness.


17 posted on 10/25/2009 1:56:40 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

My point was that it’s not a crime to hate.

Everyone hates something or somebody sometime, it’s just human emotion.

It’s the action taken that may be a crime, not emotion.


18 posted on 10/25/2009 2:33:33 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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