Posted on 11/12/2009 4:55:09 AM PST by Travis McGee
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide-bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.
On the other side are those fed up with the innumerable daily horrific acts throughout the world that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed on a daily basis by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.
Would someone please explain what motivated Nidal Hasan, who at taxpayers' expense was educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against the nation that gave him everything he had?
If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, then why:
* did he repeatedly preach the ascendancy of Islam over the U.S. Constitution?
* did he publicly support Islamic suicide-bombing?
* did he proclaim his highest loyalty to Islam?
* was he in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?
* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?
* did he keep screaming "Allahu akbar" as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?
Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be: Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslims' holy book, the Quran, in many suras: Quran 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam." And the Quran is considered by Muslims to be the word-for-word literal edicts of their god, Allah.
Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet's son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. With the assistance of one or two of his thugs, Ali beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, carried a sword that had its own name -- Zolfaghar. Ali's portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shiite lands. And Ali is revered by the Shiites at the same level as Muhammad.
On the Sunni side, Muhammad's co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course, the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. To this day, a sword adorns the flag of Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of the religion of peace.
And Islam, by the very nature of its doctrine, appeals to man's base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more: Quran 61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."
In reality, Islam is like a deadly, contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, it is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.
Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction, while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult.
The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time to time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit. However, people quickly get over it, and they do nothing to seriously address this affliction.
The recent and dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, will be forgotten by the public before long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by Islamists, the agents of death. Only the families who lost their loved ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries. They likely won't be able to put the episode behind them.
The mass-murderer Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity -- ironic in a man who was trained to help people with sanity -- was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.
A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam -- "submission" -- everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran. The raison d'être for the Muslim is unconditional submission to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a "good" Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, in which the Muslim is indoctrinated to believe.
Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people to forge a diverse world into one society ruled by peace and justice, while on the other hand, Islamists are hellbent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another's throats regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects' dogma should rule.
For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth: fighting the non-Muslims, and infighting.
Truth be told, violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, which thrives on violence, and which dies without violence.
As far as historical precedents go, how did we handle the German 'bundist' thing back in the '30s and '40s? Planning and plotting against the goverment, fomenting insurrection, disturbing the peace are all crimes. We've got to start locking people up.
"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.Translation: to achieve perfect conduct and be assured of Paradise, just emulate the life of Mohammad, and do exactly what he did.
To understand Islam, you must first look at it's founder, an illiterate caravan robber with a taste for murder, rape and pedophilia.
That means 100 million of them are.
If you had 150 rattlesnakes slithering around your house, and 140 of them had been defanged, would you say "That's fine, 140 of them won't bite me", and leave them all alone?
Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.Translations: the life and possessions of a Muslim are the property of Allah. Allah commands them to use their lives and possessions to fight Jihad, and in exchange they are guaranteed Paradise.
Jihad, fighting and SLAYING to advance Islam, is CENTRAL to Islam.
In the Army, around 90% of our Soldiers do not engage in firing weapons at the enemy. They are instead engaged in transporting, feeding, training, supplying, and caring for the troops who DO pull the triggers.
Similarly, while most Muslims do not engage in terrorism, a large percentage DO offer aid and comfort to the terrorists, whether by financial support, verbal support, looking the other way and refusing to report those who might be engaged in violent Jihad, etc. Keep in mind that ALL Muslims are supposed to pay a tithe of 2 1/2 % of assets every year(zakat), and that a mandated proper recipient category of zakat are those who are engaged in Jihad.
I hope the 70 virgins all look like Helen Thomas.
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Of course - that’s why the 1.4 billion stand silently by while the others do the work of which they obviously approve.
An Islamic extremist will kill you.
A ‘moderate’ muslim will stand by and watch you die.
History has many lessons to teach, don’t you think?
For the sake of debate, let’s postulate that 10% of muslims believe in violent jihad. (Most polls of muslims put the % much higher.) That means 100 million or more muslims determined to impose sharia worldwide through violence if need be.
What % of Germans were truly rabid Nazis? I don’t know, but it was enough to cause us to level entire cities.
THat’s why I say:
“Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.”
Without millions of “moderate muslims” to hide among, the Hasans in America would stick out like Rudolph the Red-nosed reindeer. Radical muslims use the so-called moderates to hide behind, the way the VC used triple canopy jungle.
And we defoliated that jungle to expose the VC.
See 49. GMTA.
Islam breeds arrogance. Arrogance if allowed to further degenerate may in some cases lead to external explosions of violence.
Everything I look at says that Muslims outnumber Catholics.
All of you made good points about my post about muslims this morning, and I can’t dispute any of your comments. I have made many of the same points in other posts in the past and probably will again in the future.
Like most of you, I am also most troubled by the fact that the 1.4 billion who may not be involved in terrorism haven’t spoken out against the acts of the .1 billion we assume ARE involved in terrorism. After 9/11, we live in a pretty stark black and white world as defined by President Bush when he said “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists”. I’m no different and I see things pretty much the same way. The lack of outrage against the terrorists by those 1.4 billion implies a tacit agreement with them.
Because our world has become so black and white, IMO, we see anything that is not a “no” as a “yes” and vice versa. I have always been willing to give the benefit of the doubt to those with whom I might disagree until they prove me either right or wrong and eliminate all doubt. Therein lies the rub for me, personally.
While those 1.4 billion haven’t spoken out against the terrorists, neither have they spoken in favor of them. The DBM takes great delight in showing us video of muslims celebrating any anti-American episode, but those are isolated incidents; not 1.4 billion muslims.
So, within the context of the article, Does Islam Breed Violence? The way I see it, there are compelling arguments both ways but no concrete answers to which we can point conclusively and say “Ah HAH!! THAT’S the answer!” Instead, I think we are left to debate a really good question.
Than you all for a really good debate of this issue. You have given me a lot to think about.
At twelve years old, I wanted to know why Muslims were so angry and violent. On my own, I got hold of a Koran and started reading it. It was not long before I understood what the major problem is. This is riddled with horrors and injustice and can not be reformed w/o taking out the whole thing.
Until I start seeing that, I will interpret their silence as implying consent.
“What I want to start seeing, is for Muslims to react as strongly to an imam advocating violence as they would to a story of a Christian disrespecting the Quran.
Until I start seeing that, I will interpret their silence as implying consent.”
Let’s call this a Doctrine. The Doctrine of Symmetrical Ideological Outrage.
“The United States will move to protect indigenous political philosophies and religions only to the extent that they move to condemn their own excesses.”
Since it is central to Islam that the Quran was "revealed" by Allah, a Muslim cannot decide that particular sections no longer apply in the modern world. It's a binary choice, once one has read the Quran: either accept the whole thing as being the Word of God, or stop being a Muslim.
And since the penalty for abandoning Islam is death, the second option is hard to do.
No, it’s just a coincidence that 99% of terrorists are Muslim...../sarc
No, it’s just a coincidence that 99% of Muslim’s are terrorist.Fixed it.
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