Wired: “Birth of New Species Witnessed by Scientists”

AiG ^ | November 21, 2009

[GodGunsGuts]

Scientists have watched as a new species is “born”—or is that “evolved”?—on one of the Galapagos Islands, home of Darwin’s famous finches...

[GodGunsGuts]

LOL...No worries, there tends to be less of them on Saturday mornings :o)

[YHAOS]

"there tends to be less of them on Saturday mornings :o)"

OK. I have not made it a point to conduct a close study of the species.

[GodGunsGuts]

There is no easier species to study. All you have to do is post a Creation link, and next thing you know they are everywhere!...although, less so on the weekends :o)

[mamelukesabre]

Read the title of this article. THen prove that ridiculous statement.

[goat granny]

a sparrow gave birth to a hawk without the benefit of an egg...New species...:O)

[metmom]

I realize that the "science" of Intelligent Design does not allow for evolution, but I see no reason why it shouldn't.

That's news to me. I never heard that ID excluded evolution. Basically what ID states is that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."

It's about the cause not the process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

[TigersEye]

So cars aren't intelligently designed because man didn't allow for their evolution.

But man did allow for the evolution of cars. You're not driving a Ford Model A are you?

[Doc Savage]

Call me when the finch ‘evolves’ a blow hole, tentacles or a 4 chambered heart.

[YHAOS]

OK. I’ll leave that to you. I find them of no use other than an occasional divertimento.

[DannyTN]

"But man did allow for the evolution of cars. You're not driving a Ford Model A are you?"

That's not the result of evolution, that's additional intelligent design. The model A didn't respond to it's environment and change in response, with only the fittist model A's surviving and reproducing. No Man put more intelligent design into the automobile and came up with new models.

It's a bad argument to say something is not intelligently designed because the designer didn't design it the way you would have, or with all the features that you would have, or if it's not superior in all respects to something else.

[Julia H.]

Cars most certainly have evolved since their initial invention.

[TigersEye]

That's not the result of evolution, that's additional intelligent design.

And the difference is? Remember, you said...

So cars aren't intelligently designed because man didn't allow for their evolution.

Now, obviously, the design of cars has evolved regardless of how you describe the causes of it.

[TigersEye]

The model A didn't respond to it's environment and change in response, with only the fittist model A's surviving and reproducing.

It's a bad argument to say something is not evolving because it didn't change in the manner you would have it change.

[TigersEye]

Now, obviously, the design of cars has evolved regardless of how you describe the causes process of it.

That is how I should have said that. I think we can agree on the cause of car design. Some man wanted to design one.

[count-your-change]

I think I observed the formation of a new species of humans at a wedding I attended. Yes, I know what you might say but some of the females had developed new mating habits and even a new plumage since splitting with their former species years before. Even their feeding habits and song preference had changed until they were completely different and unintelligible to each other.

Since many of the males had developed physical characteristics that made mating with the females of the new species impossible or very unlikely this could be termed a ring species.

Not being the first to observe this new species I don't have the opportunity to name them but everyone has their own nomenclature they apply anyway.

And best of all....I got free drinks and was able to do the arduous work sitting down!

[Natural Law]

"That's not the result of evolution, that's additional intelligent design."

Actually, it is natural selection.

[Teotwawki]

So finches have evolved into...well, finches. Reminds me of a couple newspaper stories I read touting the discovery of a missing link. The first was the missing link between carnivorous and herbivorous dinosaurs. The second was the missing link between salt water and fresh water fish. Now that we have these missing links I am absolutely convinced that dinosaurs evolved into dinosaurs and fish evolved into fish, just as these finches have evolved into finches.

[count-your-change]

And all those model A’s didn’t gradually grow super chargers and fuel injection and become 4 and a 1/2 cylinders then 5, then 6 with some devolving into 1 cylinder models again by themselves.

Intelligent design? Yes, but looking at the designs I won’t venture how intelligent.

[metmom]

It's a bad argument to say something is not intelligently designed because the designer didn't design it the way you would have, or with all the features that you would have, or if it's not superior in all respects to something else.

Needs to be repeated loudly and often to the evos.

One of their big arguments against God being the intelligent designer is that very issue.

They mock Him and/or the concept by calling it *Incompetent Design* as if they're so smart and capable that they could have done a better job, and then go on to praise to the heavens the splendid job that evolution did producing the very same creature that they condemned as not a good example of intelligence or design, as if evolution were superior than intelligent design.

[DannyTN]

"They mock Him and/or the concept by calling it *Incompetent Design* as if they're so smart and capable that they could have done a better job"

Exactly, and yet they can not even yet produce a single living cell from scratch.

But if even if they could come up with a better design, it would not be proof that we were not intelligently designed. We know that we were created lower than the angels. We know that we were subsequently cursed with mortality, illness and disease as a result of the fall. We don't have the eyesight of an eagle, the speed of a cougar, the strength of a lion, and yet we dominate the earth as instructed to by our Designer. We are designed the way He wanted us, nothing more and nothing less.