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Grassfire email: "Healthcare Bill May Go Nuclear"
Grassfire Nation [alert@grassfire.net] ^ | Sat 12/5/2009 | Steve Elliott

Posted on 12/05/2009 6:42:26 AM PST by plsjr

Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) is warning that the "nuclear option" is being considered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to pass ObamaCare...

This means only 50 votes would be needed to pass a healthcare takeover bill that would tax Americans to the tune of $500 billion, while gutting Medicare $464 billion.

Grassley, and others believe the current plan on the table would lead to "rationed care, shuttered hospitals, overburdened doctors and waste."

No doubt feeling the pressure to punch ObamaCare through before Christmas, Reid is now demanding lawmakers work on Sunday...

Reid's quick-step signals a shift for Grassfire.

We can't wait to rally 750,000 citizen signers before hand- delivering your petitions to key Senate offices.

That's why we've literally started the countdown clock-- counting down to midnight Wednesday night as potentially the last opportunity for grassroots citizens to have their petition opposing ObamaCare hand-delivered before the vote!

674,346 citizens have already signed our petition-- meaning we are roughly 75,000 petitions shy of our three-quarters -of-a-million goal.

Earlier this week, we were more than 110,000 from our goal!

So your efforts are paying off.

But we need to do more. That's why I'm urging EVERY member of our team who has already signed our petition to forward this alert to 35-40 friends urging them to sign the petition and have it HAND-DELIVERED to their Senators starting next Thursday.

Go here now to sign:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=23467&PID=22955334

Because of such an overwhelming amount of petitions, we had to give our special courier up to three days to deliver our petitions... But EVERY petition will be delivered---at a critical time when Reid and his cronies are using whatever trick they can to secure support for this horrifying bill...

Like Reid, Grassfire Nation has started our own countdown clock to midnight Wednesday.

Your efforts right now are critical to our success. We are depending on our amazing team to help us reach our goal to maximize our impact starting next week!

Thanks in advance for taking action.

Steve Elliott Grassfire Nation

P.S. We're doing all we can to rally critically needed extra support for our petition--including the launching of an actual countdown clock on Drudge!

You can also see the clock on our Grassfire Nation petition page by clicking here:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=23467&PID=22955334

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+ + + + + Grassfire Nation is a million-strong network of grassroots conservatives that is dedicated to equipping you with the tools that give you a real impact on the key issues of our day. Copyright 2009 Grassroots Action, Inc.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: health; healthcare; nuclear; senate
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To: Mike Darancette

“may have been duped.”

BS they knew exactly what they were doing.


41 posted on 12/05/2009 5:49:37 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty? Sic semper tryannis)
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To: sickoflibs

-————2) Change the rules, as Dem Alan Greyson called for. With 50 Senators plus Biden.——————

And

-————#2 may have been headed off by the Gang of 14 moderates that we conservatives cursed(over judges 2006).——————

What does a judicial filibuster have to do with a legislative bill?


42 posted on 12/05/2009 7:05:57 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

In the meantime, Soros is lining up his troops so as to make sure that ALL Secretaries of States are democrats. Will we sit around and let him get away with that? It’s time for boots to hit the ground.


43 posted on 12/05/2009 7:11:26 PM PST by WVNan
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To: plsjr; All

First of all .. the dems are in a hurry because they know the American people DON’T WANT THIS STUFF so the dems have to get it passed into law before we can stop them.

Secondly .. if the dems try the nuclear option (after all their caterwalling about the repubs doing it), the dems are going to see even more losses in 2010.

The dems know that if the public is really as mad as they appear, 2010 will stop all their lunatic ideas.


44 posted on 12/05/2009 7:19:14 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It means that if you change the Senate rules for a certain type of vote that we republicans think is critically important (and we do) , then expect dems to do the same on their turn (if they were to do it now it would really show RINOs and mod dems as losers).

Libs are making exactly the same arguments conservatives were, “the system is broken, they defy the constitution, it doesnt matter whose in power”(We know that is a lie), “the other side is abusing filibusters.” .

Those that call for this on both sides seem to assume power forever.


45 posted on 12/05/2009 7:19:58 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

If I remember correctly, the argument was ‘filibustering judges is unconstitutional’.

No?


46 posted on 12/05/2009 7:22:46 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Mark Levin ! I listened to him daily then.

Yep, but we know the Senate can make it's own rules. And the rules take the 51 majority. And Mark never complained about this rule until it worked against us (you will find this is standard.) Not like he took this rule to court, His complaint is the other side voted against cloture.

Mark is pretty good at throwing around the word “Unconstitutional”. I used to like it back when I read his “Men in Black”. Getting a bit old now. Levin may wish he was the SCOTUS, but he is not.

47 posted on 12/05/2009 7:38:51 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: plsjr

Where’s the goron prozac Freepers that said Reid would not use the ‘nuclear’ option?


48 posted on 12/05/2009 7:55:00 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: plsjr
The only option left is:

STATE NULLIFICATION

Think about it. What if just (3) State Governors told DC to pound sand regarding their Healthcare mandates? What would DC do?

1. Send in the National Guard or regular Army? Not likely in this day. This is not the 1860's;
2. With hold Fed funds? Maybe. But the rebellious States could with hold their tax receipts to the Fedgov;
3. Lawsuits by the Fedgov? Okay, then a given State could get a restraining order to postpone Obamacare.

Other than the above, what exactly could DC do? I say those wimps in Washington won't do anything, other than maybe file lawsuits. That would be a good thing. The 9th and 10th Amendments' intent would finally make it to the USSC.

If the Supremes ignored all the writings of the Founding Fathers regarding States' Rights and Numerated Fed powers and erroneously determined that Congress has the right through the abused "commerce" and "welfare" clauses, then the States can still NULLIFY! What could DC do if just a few States held their ground? I say that DC would back down.

49 posted on 12/06/2009 1:57:24 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet; lula; All
I like it -

Perry of TX has been in the news with attributions of succession - he might be game.

Sanford of SC has made a mess of his situation, but might be willing to act while he's still in place...

Who else? Do any other states’ Freepers have a sense that their governor might stand up to this obamination? Would enough of us take the time to begin organizing such an effort for our states?

50 posted on 12/06/2009 3:12:52 AM PST by plsjr (<>< ... "there aught to be a law" => more government & more lawyers. Like what we have? Want more?)
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To: plsjr
I would like to see all the Democrats in plastic handcuffs and surrounded by angry citizens.


51 posted on 12/06/2009 5:02:01 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

I winced when I saw how tight those were in the picture, but found myself feeling that was ‘an OK start’ for the non-representing representatives.

If they keep it up, there will be folks desiring to apply equivalent trusses elsewhere on the oligarch’s bodies.


52 posted on 12/06/2009 5:35:17 AM PST by plsjr (<>< ... "there aught to be a law" => more government & more lawyers. Like what we have? Want more?)
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To: mvpel
“I guess the silver lining is that if they change the rules to pass it, we’ll only need 50 votes to repeal it in 2010.”

But the President will veto anything passed by Republicans in 2010.

53 posted on 12/06/2009 8:00:40 AM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Jack Hammer

>Congressional Democrats are absolutely determined that, come what may, the United States will be converted to communism before the 2010 elections can inhibit their revolution.<

They have to seize power before 2010 or else their party is over. They have put themselves in a do or die situation now.

In 2012 Obama would lose the WH if he played by the rules, you actually think that that sick man is going to leave? I don’t. He is staying regardless of what we want. I will bet money on it.


54 posted on 12/06/2009 11:23:09 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: plsjr

Why is this a surprise? Harry said he would do this months ago.


55 posted on 12/06/2009 11:24:44 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: plsjr

posted on my blog and sent to my e-mail lists for more exposure. Thanks for posting.


56 posted on 12/06/2009 11:29:34 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Principled

“But to even bring the thing to a vote, they need 60 to end debate.”

And they’ll get it, too, because “voting” on it will be the “fair” thing to do.

Lock and load.


57 posted on 12/06/2009 11:40:22 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes - and in 2010 or 2012, a conservative government is going to repeal this marxist coup.


58 posted on 12/06/2009 8:08:53 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: mvpel

IF that were possible, considering any Republicans do not have the spine (or gnads) to do that, even if they have the majority, you know the Dems will simply change the rules BACK to suit their agenda (like they did in Mass regarding the governor being able to appoint a Senator to replace Kennedy).

They DISGUST me!

I wonder, IF we ever saw 60 Republican senators in the congress, if they would become aggressive activists and do what needs to be done!

I think we know the answer to that.


59 posted on 12/07/2009 4:54:37 AM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: Principled

Well, that would be the case if the Republicans were in charge. The dems have made it CLEAR since the inauguration that the Constitution and rules be DAMNED. They WON and will do whatever they please!

They need an angry mob of about 10,000 to storm that building and drag their a$$es out. THere is an angry storm brewing and I hope I see the day when the scenario above plays out and I really hope that I am a part of it. They are evil to the core.


60 posted on 12/07/2009 4:57:11 AM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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