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Cars, quo warranto, and Obama (Donofrio update)
Examiner.com ^ | 12-06-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:07 AM PST by Danae

With so many lawsuits filed every day in America, one more might seem irrelevant. There is one however that should be watched, but will most likely escape notice. For a little while at any rate…

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Neil Cavuto welcomed former Chrysler dealer James Anderer to his show on Fox Business News Daily to talk about a case that has been filed by a group of dealers who lost their businesses in the Washington D.C. District Court. Lead Plaintiff Anderer mentioned a team of legal experts while describing the case to Cavuto, and an anonymous source has named Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon as having been retained by a group of Chrysler dealers who lost their franchise in the Chrysler bankruptcy sale. They have been retained to bring two actions:

1. A motion to reconsider the Court's approval of the dealer rejections. 2. A quo warranto in the D.C. District Court pertaining to Obama and his administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrysler; donofrio; leodonofrio; quowarranto
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To: Danae
Fact Check is part of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, which is connected to Obama and Bill Ayers.

Google the connection between Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, and the Annenberg Foundation

41 posted on 12/05/2009 12:16:15 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: FR_addict
http://digg.com/politics/Annenberg_Gate_The_Truth_About_Barack_Obama_And_Bill_Ayres

Here’s one about the connections. There are plenty more. I know the connections have been on Free Republic.

I am surprised anyone wouuld use FactCheck.org for facts.
It says right on their site that they are the Annenberg Political Fact Check.

42 posted on 12/05/2009 12:22:16 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Danae
“PS: I was born in Hawaii, I know all about what goes on there from a first person experience.”

PS: I lived in Hawaii. So what? Unless you worked in the state government sorting through the birth certificate records, I don't think you are anymore an expert than I am.

There had been some research done on actual cases where the state of Hawaii gave out the short form for people not born in Hawaii. It's on Free Republic somewhere.

43 posted on 12/05/2009 12:30:12 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: FR_addict

“What was the wording used by the legal confirmation? What were the “documents in their possesion”, A Hawaiian birth certificate, a Kenyan birth certificate, a notarized statement, stating that Barack Obama was born at home (which would be a good way to hide a Kenyan Birth)?”

Hawaii DoH replied to Leo Donofrio that he was denied access to documents dating on or about Aug, 1961, which statutorily admits that they do have them. Otherwise they would have replied, the documents do not exist.

Obama is spending millions of dollars to make it look like he IS hiding something. The truth is already Public, he just wants people looking at what they think he is hiding. The information that is going to remove him from office is the fact he was born British, Kenyan, and American and was therefore never a Natural Born Citizen. THAT is what makes him unconstitutional. The Birth Certificate, as long as people think it is some smoking gun, is being used to distract people from looking at what MAKES a person a Natural Born Citizen or not. He does not have parentS who were citizenS when he was born. Thats the issue.


44 posted on 12/05/2009 12:36:56 PM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: FR_addict

I can tell you a for a FACT that they issued birth certificates, it was done all the time because of the number of foreign immigrants to the islands as migrant workers back then. Hawaii didn’t have the resources to FEED all those welfare cases, so they gave them birth certificates so they would qualify for FEDERAL WELFARE. I posted the article on it.

This is the full article:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697


45 posted on 12/05/2009 12:40:15 PM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: FR_addict

I know that Fact Check is an Obama stooge site. But it STATES that he was a British Kenyan, shows the law that governed the status conferred upon Obama at his birth, and is EVIDENCE that he KNOWS he isn’t a Natural Born Citizen and WHY. He is just doing all he cam to make it seem that his BIRTH CERTIFICATE is the issue. It isn’t. The issue is what he admits to publicly. People are so damned busy chasing the birth certificate they aren’t LOOKING at what is right out in the open. He was born Kenyan and British, and THAT makes it impossible for him to EVER have been a Natural Born Citizen.


46 posted on 12/05/2009 12:42:57 PM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Weird posters today. Where is LorenC and the other troll bait today?


47 posted on 12/05/2009 12:45:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Danae

48 posted on 12/05/2009 12:48:03 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: FR_addict
The short form is not accepted as proof of citizen for a job or a passport or as I understand it, even to play in little league.

Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes. Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.

49 posted on 12/05/2009 12:50:34 PM PST by Drew68
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To: FR_addict; Danae

And you are the expert to challenge anything Danae says?

I gently called Danae on an issue, which was very important as she brought it up. Never called her a liar or attempted to insult her.

She, after several months, got down to the business of learning more about what seemed to be an improbable story.

She pleaded that she was innocent the whole time and then learned that she had some erroneous information and how it came to be.

It was a big deal and I never insulted or questioned her position of expertise to present her case.

After acquitting herself most excellently, Danae is a very admired poster and has performed extensive research on this matter and been published in the Examiner.

Danae, I still hold you in the highest regard. You could have simply quit, never to be heard from again and yet you persisted in the face of some loud dissenters of your position.


50 posted on 12/05/2009 12:54:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Danae

What do we know about DC district court justices?


51 posted on 12/05/2009 1:02:22 PM PST by tunedin
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To: Drew68
Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes. Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes. Applying for passports

So if I brought my BlackBarry phone down to the post office with a picture of my certification of live birth on it.....I'll be able to get a passport? Cool.
52 posted on 12/05/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Danae

the D.C. District Court....hmmm, now that’s a bit of problem. I would put more faith in Miss Tickly and Leo’s Hawaii requests.


53 posted on 12/05/2009 1:19:14 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Drew68
“The short form is not accepted as proof of citizen for a job or a passport or as I understand it, even to play in little league.”

“Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes.

Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.”

I just sent my son his birth certificate — long form — to obtain a passport.

It may be because the short form did not have a raised seal. I have other short forms certificates of family members without a raised seal.

Went to find the requirements for a passport.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html#DS11Instruc

“*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth.

Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.”

54 posted on 12/05/2009 1:35:41 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Electric Graffiti
“So if I brought my BlackBarry phone down to the post office with a picture of my certification of live birth on it.....I'll be able to get a passport? Cool.”

Sorry didn't see you found the link before me. I like your scenario.

55 posted on 12/05/2009 1:39:49 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Electric Graffiti; FR_addict
Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

Yes. Those would be short forms from California and Texas which, for whatever reason, are not acceptable.

In many states if you lose your original BC and request a new one, a computer-generated "short form" certified with a raised seal is all you'll receive. It is in a format the looks just like the famous "Factcheck" BC. And you can use this BC to get a passport as I did.

56 posted on 12/05/2009 1:40:25 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Vendome

“And you are the expert to challenge anything Danae says?”

I believe Obama is hiding something on his birth certificate, otherwise he would not be spending millions of dollars on legal fees to keep it hidden.

I am a Free Republic poster with the right to post my opinions. I am allowed to disagree with Danae. That’s what makes this site great.


57 posted on 12/05/2009 1:45:03 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: Danae
The Obots here on FR will be tied and twisted in knots trying to debunk and explain this one away saying that these car dealers have no standing and that they were not “ Injured “ in any way by Obama’s under handed actions...
58 posted on 12/05/2009 1:54:23 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: FR_addict

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2401091/posts?page=13#13


59 posted on 12/05/2009 1:59:17 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: FR_addict

Look at post # 26 in the link I just sent you.....


60 posted on 12/05/2009 2:00:00 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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