Skip to comments.What sort of civil disobedience is acceptable?
Posted on 12/23/2009 12:52:01 PM PST by johngaltspeaks
There is a lot of talk about civil disobedience regarding this healthcare bill. Folks have said they will refuse to purchase into it, thus breaking the law.
A thought I had is, what about the 2010 census. What if we refuse to participate or under/over report our household numbers. If we refuse to obey the census law or just delay would that send a message?
Freedom (and revolution) begin with saying “no”.
ROTFL. Hang on a sec, let me think...
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Instead of paying for postage when mailing letters, just print out a tiny square with Obama’s face on it, and stick it in the upper-right corner of your envelope. See if the letter comes back to you or not.
See you in debtor's prison.
Acceptable to whom?
I wonder if we'll get cable in prison?
I am beginning to suspect “boiled hemp” will be about the only message this crew of cngresscriminals will understand.
Disobedience against tyranny is a privilege.
Our ancestors did this a number of times in a number of ways, including the American Revolution, the Civil War, the various labor movements of the late 19th century, the Civil Rights movement, and other times in which rights have been stepped on.
Any form of disobedience is acceptable, and when they start shooting, even war is acceptable. You don’t preserve liberty against people like the modern American left by acting nice.
I don’t know. You suppose we’ll have complimentary high speed internet connection?
This is funny check this out
Nader Blasts Obamacare
Free cable, internet and sex. (only the last one is bad news).
We need to print up some MLK shirts with the slogan:
“One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”
Too bad his image is copyrighted...wait...hold on...maybe that’s one of those unjust laws he was talking about!
Welcome to Free Republic. Did you join today just to sound us out on our intentions? Makes me kind of wonder...
That just brought a question to mind: legal historians: has there ever been a political assault/killing via some weapon where the defense was that it was an act of civil disobedience?
Something is seriously wrong when the government plans to treat citizens worse than they treat terrorists.
When the census worker comes to your place give them the Christopher Walken SNL answer:
Overestimate if you live in a safe Republican district. Underestimate if you live in a Dem. district. ROFL!
What we should do is show up at these loser’s homes right after Christmas in droves. Reps too.
Hang around here for a week and you might answer your own question. Till then take the safe route and invest in cheese.
Good luck with that one.
I wonder if we’ll get cable in prison?
The irony is they are willing to put people in prison for not paying for health ins. Prisoners get dental plus.
During the last census all I gave them was who was living here in my house.. 1 male, 3 females (wife & two kids). They came back numerous times trying to get me to fill out the long form etc and I refused. I said NO several times and finally kicked the off my property...
Interesting question noob, but what does this have to do with Tiger Woods cheating on his wife? We have priorities here, ya know.
I just wonder if such a defense were ever offered for murder of a political figure.
Got that right!
Our TEA Party motto:
JUST VOTE THEM OUT!!
See you in Searchlight Nevada on March 27 to start it rolling!!
Civil disobedience involves a willingness to go to prison, if necessary, rather than comply with what is considered to be an unjust law.
If sufficiently widespread, this civil disobedience will so clog and fill the courts and prisons, that the very basis of economics that supports this unjust regime goes into utter collapse, thus causing the anarchy under which no government can survive.
You are required by law to be truthful when answering the census. According to Title 13, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2, anyone who willfully gives an answer that is false could be fined up to $500. You are not required to be helpful. Clinton used that defense, and the socialists who call themselves democrats accepted it when the sleaze (and, disgusting as he was, Obama makes me miss Clinton) used it.
1. How many people living ... [I answer this one truthfully and in a helpful manner, since that is the question they are charged by the Constitution with asking].
2. Any additional people staying here ... [Same status as #1].
3. Owned, rented, occupied ... [I plan on misunderstanding this one; none of their business, so truthful but not helpful].
4. telephone number [again, my answer may not be helpful, but I can eventually be reached through the number at my gym].
5. names ... [I’ll probably answer].
6. sex for each person ... [I’ll probably answer].
7. age and date of birth ... [undecided - is this their business?].
8. Hispanic, Latino, ... [I’ll have fun with this].
9. Race ... [None of their business! But I’m required to answer so “OTHER” - “human”].
10. Sometimes live or stay elsewhere ... [again, I’ll play with them; I’ve stayed a lot of places].
If they send me the long form, which they did for the 2000 Census, I’ll really mess with them.
Speak to me, johngalt!
What message do you want to send?
If you don't do anything they think you approve of things. They are already saying that we will change our minds when we get used to the idea. What about you?
Ooops, what am I thinking, were destined for the Gulag, not club fed.
We need well trained juries!
In 2000, we refused to fill in the “race” box.
They called, they visited, I told them I refused to answer that question.
As they were leaving I said “and don’t you fill it in for me by looking at me, I’ll sue you if I find out you did”.
Refuse overtime if you are paid hourly. Cut back your business if you are a business owner. Don’t buy anything you don’t NEED. Give to religious charities.
In other words, reduce your taxable income and help others reduce theirs. (Based on your name, you already know this.)
Anything else is just an empty gesture—unless you can get others to join in. But, the sad reality is that the elite in DC really don’t give a damn what you and I do.
If we just make some noise, it’s just harmless buzzing to them. If we do something big enough to be noticed, then there’s probably a law or two being broken and you’ll be punished to the full extent of the law. Don’t expect the kind of “catch and release with a smirk and slap on the back” treatment that liberal protestors get when they chain themselves to a bulldozer, have a sit-in, or block a train full of radioactive material.
We need more Tea Parties and they need to start getting scary.
The prospect of conservatives engaging in civil disobedience may ultimately prompt the liberals to do something they would never before have supported: Build more prisons. That, and ban former prisoners who’ve served their time from having their rights restored.
But let’s be honest... They are more likely to empty the prisons of rapists and murderers to make room for the tax cheats.
Cuz I get the feeling that there will be a LOT of us there.
I will go willingly and once I am released I will go again.
Would that be "I NEED MORE COWBELL"
What choice have they given us!! I’m not buying it either!!
At least you'll have fun spitting on it.
“Disobedience against tyranny is a privilege”
Disobedience against tyranny is an obligation.
I’m trying to organize a 10th amendment rally to raise awareness that states don’t have to put up with D.C. power grabs in hope that enough people will apply pressure on state reps to just reject it and do their duty to have the pile of luke warm excriment we’re being handed overturned. I probably have a snowball’s chance in the big hot place of success here in NY, but I have to do something.
I do not feel comfortable going without insurance since my hubby and I are in our 40s and we have kids under 18, so I wouldn’t drop something I have now that I really need.
Sorry to hear of that bad, intrusive expreience.
I have had better luck, but with Jehovah Witnesses.
I once got lucky and had a hard time getting rid of this cute Jehovah Witness coming by my place around 8/9PM several nights a week.
I have no idea why so late. And I didn’t realize they came by themselves. I thought they always had to come in pairs.
Anyway, I let her in and would always listen to what she had to say, but I think she eventually picked up that I just thought she was hot.
Really, I wasn’t interested in becoming a Jehovah Witness.
In hindsight, I probably should have just come out in the beginning and said that.
Can’t have enough COWBELL!
No. I’m serious. I am so disgusted. I feel like government has ceased to be of for and by the people. It seems to only exist for itself anymore.
I feel like I am shouting at the top of my lungs but am neither seen or heard. I need to do something to get my voice across. If tens of thousands act in a unified way of civil disobedience we will be heard.
Sure I joined today, but who cares. I’ve been on Twitter for while.
I just feel alone with the way things are and am looking for like minded conservative thought. If you’re just gonna mock me I”ll assume you are no better than the other side and assume all is lost.
Rand said this:
“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. “
>>maybe thats one of those unjust laws he was talking about!
I think it is. MLK has quite a few quotes that apply to the decline of freedom in America today but that one is best. I wonder how the Left would react if we “stole” MLK from them.