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What sort of civil disobedience is acceptable?
Posted on 12/23/2009 12:52:01 PM PST by johngaltspeaks
There is a lot of talk about civil disobedience regarding this healthcare bill. Folks have said they will refuse to purchase into it, thus breaking the law.
A thought I had is, what about the 2010 census. What if we refuse to participate or under/over report our household numbers. If we refuse to obey the census law or just delay would that send a message?
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KEYWORDS: census; civildisobedience; heathcare; noob; obamacare
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To: johngaltspeaks
Blowing $#!t up works for me........
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posted on
12/23/2009 4:51:29 PM PST
by
Feckless
(Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
To: alloysteel
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/15/the-cloward-piven-strategy/
If sufficiently widespread, this civil disobedience will so clog and fill the courts and prisons, that the very basis of economics that supports this unjust regime goes into utter collapse, thus causing the anarchy under which no government can survive.
Sorta like "commander zero's" cloward-priven strategy, only moral and good. We could call it the Robinson-Thompson Strategy.
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posted on
12/23/2009 5:31:29 PM PST
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
To: johngaltspeaks
No, bad idea (Or do you want the “illigals” counted in Kalifornia) to move REPS out of your red-state and into them??
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posted on
12/23/2009 7:32:51 PM PST
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JSDude1
(www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
To: luvEastTenn
Calling for a day of prayer and fasting is a good start, but with what is going on among the mainline denominations, I am not certain we would all be praying for the same thing. We are living in the days when everyone does what is right in his own sight. Prayer alone is not going to change things, but without prayer nothing is going to change. There will come a time, and maybe that day is already here, when Christians are going to have to suffer for their faith. No health, wealth, and prosperity Gospel can withstand persecution. People that build their faith on people such as Joel Osteen are building upon sand.
To: Jim Robinson; MrB
I refuse to buy it!
Jim Robinson
See you in debtor's prison.
I'm not going to buy it.
Nor am I going to pay the fine for not buying it.
And I've no intention of going to jail over it.
Coming soon to a bridge near you.
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posted on
12/23/2009 9:36:01 PM PST
by
Fichori
('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
To: johngaltspeaks
Easiest disobedience is to starve the beast. Maximize W4 exemptions to reduce withholdings. Take the extra money and invest it in 401(k) or IRA thereby further reducing taxable income. Cram as much into non-taxable flexible spending accounts as possible. For example if you pay for childcare you can deposit the money, tax-free, directly into a FSA that is then used to pay your child care provider. You'll get a smaller refund but the Gov’t won't get to use your money for free all year. Shop online to avoid sales taxes, shop in tax free states if possible. File for an automatic extension so that the IRS receives 300 million returns on October 15, make the government's job as hard as possible, contest every notice, file grievances, request extensions, etc. All the above is 100% perfectly legal but can really bust some ba&&s.
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posted on
12/24/2009 9:05:19 AM PST
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JrsyJack
(a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
To: shank26
I am changing the number of dependents on my W-4. Was 4 changing it to 10. Its legal, keeps my money in my pocket, and they will just have to wait until april 15, 2011 to get my money!That's a good start but to really maximize the benefit take the extra take home pay and put it in an IRA or a 401(k). That will further reduce your taxable wages
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12/24/2009 9:14:14 AM PST
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JrsyJack
(a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
To: Nosterrex
Yes, today in my personal quiet time I was reviewing Romans 13. For many Americans, this topic has been mostly just intellectual exercise heretofore, I think. The prosperity gospel and its proponents are to be ignored and avoided at all costs, for they have weakened and pampered those it seeks to deceive. Better that God himself speaks to and nudges those he wishes to call to special prayer and fasting. Then it’s not an orchestrated event, but a God-inspired sacrifice. I’m sick to death of religious programs and schemes. Would love to see God’s spirit unleashed.
To: luvEastTenn
I have had the opportunity of studying church history under some excellent professors, and I still marvel at the different spirit between early Christianity and what passes for American Christianity. In the early church, people expected to suffer for following Christ. Today, people become Christians to escape from suffering. Christ's command to take up our cross of self-denial and follow Him is as foreign to American Christianity as a rainbow is to a blind person. If people were told today that if they became a Christian that you and your whole family would be tortured and killed, I suspect that there would far fewer people in the pews on Sunday.
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