Skip to comments.Newspapers' birth announcements: So what ?
Posted on 01/06/2010 5:41:28 PM PST by RobinMasters
Contrary to the claims of critics of citizens who demand Barack Obama produce evidence of his presidential eligibility, newspaper birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 did not necessarily indicate a baby was born in the state.
As WND reported, Glenn Beck ridiculed the so-called birther movement on his nationally syndicated radio show Monday, pointing to identical birth announcements published in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin as evidence Obama was born in Hawaii and, therefore, is a natural-born citizen as required by the Constitution.
Beck, and two colleagues, mocked "birthers" for purportedly believing a wild conspiracy in which Obama's parents, knowing he would someday be president, "preemptively" collaborated with two separate newspapers to publish phony announcements stating he was born in Hawaii.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Maybe some day.
Some day will be too late. He is dismantling this country at lightning speed. He must be stopped sooner than later. This is the single issue that can stop him and he knows it and so do his handlers. There are a whole lot of people and organizations complicit in foisting this POS on our country and bringing them down will not be easy, especially since some of those we trust (FOX) are proving themselves to be just as complicit as those we know not to trust. There is one Entity I am sure we can trust but we must first ask His forgiveness for our transgressions and pray like we have never prayed before. I see this as our last best hope. He and He alone has the power to turn the hearts of those who have betrayed us. Pray that He will.
Even if she were old enough she would only be able to pass US citizenship NOT natural born citizenship. If Obama Sr. is his father HE CAN NOT BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, even if he were born in the white house.
a child born outside the US - with ONE parent who is a US citizen and one who isnt = is a natural-born US citizen
WRONG The child would be a citizen not a natural born citizen. NBC requires 2 citizen parents. We don’t even know if this clown is a citizen, let alone NBC.
Yes, yes. I concur. Never said otherwise.
I don't believe that for one moment, we are dealing with some more sinister background invisible players!
I am convinced that all the talking heads know very well that we have an ineligible usurper in the W.H. by the biggest voting fraud and Constitutional scandal in our country's history!!
With that said, they are all forced NOT to touch the issues otherwise they would NOT have a gig (bread & butter) and NO Station either (FCC=Mark Lloyd, etc.) Schnitt on clear channel has blocked me and others on his e-mail account. It is all in a calculated putting, but it is treason and they are enablers ALL of them, including the tree branches of government. Deal has showed to have cojones!!!
Three little words you need to know!!!
No, he is NOT, but he and the rest of the talking heads have been muzzled from above NOT to touch the usurper's ineligibility regarding the B.C. and other sealed records. Otherwise no gig (bread/butter) or Station!!!
He is NOT a NBC, he has never been, and he will never be. Additional he is also now a British/E.U. citizens as well probably an Indonesian citizen!!!
We have the divorce papers, and people who were never legally married don't get divorced. And long-established law is that the child of a marriage is the legal child of both partners of the marriage, no matter who the biological father is.
Yes, he could. Of course, he'd have to wait 35 years, the kid would have to live in the US at least 14 years, and he'd have to actually be elected. It seems a pretty dumb way for Bin Laden to work on his dreams of world conquest.
If the framers were that stupid and short sighted we would never have survived as long as we have.
And yet here we are.
Incidentally, the posted WND piece by Jerome Corsi is probably the best written of all I've seen on WND about the POTUS constitutional eligibility issue. It's an excellent rebuttal to Beck.
His point is, that as an “AFTER-BIRTHER”, a 24/7 ZERO-BRIGADE, he is happy with an usurper occupant of the W.H. and he popped the Champagne bottle on November 4, 2008!!!
You are raping the three little words!!!
- The truth shall set you free-!
As a "Christian you should know better than spread such appalling rumors!!
Check out the DATE and the source for this article before you portray yourself. It's time for repentance!!!
And, You may NOT be a Constitutionalists if you are an "AFTER-BIRTHER" !!!
I’m fully aware that of the law regarding legal paternity.
As for the “marriage,” documentation may someday turn up. I doubt it, considering Obama’s effort to pre-emptively explain it away in his book, admitting the details are hazy.
The divorce papers would be necessary, regardless of whether there had been a marriage ceremony, because Ann had been passing the kid off as the son of a marriage (common-law or otherwise) for years.
She needed to establish legal custody. She had plans to marry Soetoro and let him adopt the boy. Can you imagine the hassle of getting Sr.’s signature on all the paperwork required, both in Hawaii and Indonesia, for adoption, citizenship, school, etc. if the court had not awarded her sole custody? She was just taking care of business.
“She needed to establish legal custody. She had plans to marry Soetoro and let him adopt the boy. Can you imagine the hassle of getting Sr.s signature on all the paperwork required, both in Hawaii and Indonesia, for adoption, citizenship, school, etc. if the court had not awarded her sole custody? She was just taking care of business.”
When you take this ONE thing only into account, how can it be so difficulty for a few here and the media outlets, including the three government branches to understand that everything in this treasonous impostor’s life-records have been totally sanitized for us to see???
And the hypocrisy of double standards is just mind-boggling!!!
Of course, if Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann were never legally married, then there's no question of his holding British citizenship. Until very recently, Britain didn't grant citizenship to the children of unmarried British fathers and non-British women.
Unless the Dunhams shipped her back to the mainland to hide the pregnancy, and he was born in a home for unwed mothers in Vancouver. As in Canada, under British rule. Ann was, after all, toting a newborn around in Seattle in Aug. ‘61, according to eyewitness accounts.
Meanwhile, back in Honolulu, the Dunhams manufacture a tale to cover for the black grandkid (who apparently won’t come back to the island until after Obama Sr. leaves). This includes filing info for an out-of-state birth and sending an announcement to the local paper.
Obama admits he had British citizenship. I don’t know if that refers to his bloodline or to his place of birth. Or both.
Are you saying that someone who is a “citizen at birth” is NOT a natural-born citizen?
The following state (from Title 8 of the U.S. code) lists categories of people who are “United States citizens at birth.”
Subsection (g) is relevant here. (sorry for the length)
Page 391 TITLE 8ALIENS AND NATIONALITY § 1401
nonimmigrants described in section
1101(a)(15)(L) of this title, including the number
of such nonimmigrants who are classified on the
basis of specialized knowledge and the number
of nonimmigrants who are classified on the basis
of specialized knowledge in order to work primarily
at offsite locations.
Subsection (a) of this section shall apply to
petitions filed on or after the effective date of
(Pub. L. 108447, div. J, title IV, § 414, Dec. 8, 2004,
118 Stat. 3352.)
REFERENCES IN TEXT
This subtitle, referred to in subsec. (b), means subtitle
A (§§ 411417) of title IV of div. J of Pub. L. 108447.
For the effective date of subtitle A, see section 417 of
Pub. L. 108447, set out as an Effective Date of 2004
Amendment note under section 1184 of this title.
Section was enacted as part of the L1 Visa (Intracompany
Transferee) Reform Act of 2004, and also as
part of the L1 Visa and H1B Visa Reform Act and the
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2005, and not as part
of the Immigration and Nationality Act which comprises
Section effective 180 days after Dec. 8, 2004, see section
417 of Pub. L. 108447, set out as an Effective Date
of 2004 Amendment note under section 1184 of this title.
§ 1381. Secretary of Labor report
Not later than January 31 of each year, the
Secretary of Labor shall report to the Committees
on the Judiciary of the Senate and the
House of Representatives on the investigations
undertaken based on
(1) the authorities described in clauses (i)
and (ii) of section 1182(n)(2)(G) of this title;
(2) the expenditures by the Secretary of
Labor described in section 1356(v)(2)(D) of this
(Pub. L. 108447, div. J, title IV, § 424(c), Dec. 8,
2004, 118 Stat. 3356.)
Section was enacted as part of the H1B Visa Reform
Act of 2004, and also as part of the L1 Visa and H1B
Visa Reform Act and the Consolidated Appropriations
Act, 2005, and not as part of the Immigration and Nationality
Act which comprises this chapter.
Section effective 90 days after Dec. 8, 2004, see section
430 of Pub. L. 108447, set out as an Effective Date of
2004 Amendment note under section 1182 of this title.
SUBCHAPTER IIINATIONALITY AND
PART INATIONALITY AT BIRTH AND COLLECTIVE
§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at
The following shall be nationals and citizens
of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a
member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or
other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the
granting of citizenship under this subsection
shall not in any manner impair or otherwise
affect the right of such person to tribal or
(c) a person born outside of the United
States and its outlying possessions of parents
both of whom are citizens of the United States
and one of whom has had a residence in the
United States or one of its outlying possessions,
prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United
States and its outlying possessions of parents
one of whom is a citizen of the United States
who has been physically present in the United
States or one of its outlying possessions for a
continuous period of one year prior to the
birth of such person, and the other of whom is
a national, but not a citizen of the United
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of
the United States of parents one of whom is a
citizen of the United States who has been
physically present in the United States or one
of its outlying possessions for a continuous period
of one year at any time prior to the birth
of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in
the United States while under the age of five
years, until shown, prior to his attaining the
age of twenty-one years, not to have been born
in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical
limits of the United States and its outlying
possessions of parents one of whom is an alien,
and the other a citizen of the United States
who, prior to the birth of such person, was
physically present in the United States or its
outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling
not less than five years, at least two of
which were after attaining the age of fourteen
years: Provided, That any periods of honorable
service in the Armed Forces of the United
States, or periods of employment with the
United States Government or with an international
organization as that term is defined
in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent,
or any periods during which such citizen parent
is physically present abroad as the dependent
unmarried son or daughter and a member
of the household of a person (A) honorably
serving with the Armed Forces of the United
States, or (B) employed by the United States
Government or an international organization
as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included
in order to satisfy the physical-presence
requirement of this paragraph. This proviso
shall be applicable to persons born on or
after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as
if it had become effective in its present form
on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern
Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits
and jurisdiction of the United States of an
alien father and a mother who is a citizen of
the United States who, prior to the birth of
such person, had resided in the United States.
(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, § 301, 66
Stat. 235; Pub. L. 89770, Nov. 6, 1966, 80 Stat.