"Birther" Whispering Campaign Inside the Democrat Party?

I don't know how one can be “agnostic AGAINST” Obama’s own declaration that he was born a subject of the British Commonwealth. Born a subject of the British Commonwealth is not “...born in the country of parents who are its citizens.” Obama is fully aware he is ineligible and has
a powerful machine behind him, a machine which doesn't agree with Article II Section 1. A nation of laws whose leaders can chose the laws they agree with is no longer a nation of laws. 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 10th Amendment; what goes next?

Charles Kerchner, whose lawsuit is proceeding through the courts of appeal to the supreme court, voiced an opinion on a radio interview, one upon which I doubt his careful attorney would opine, that the silence from the media was initiated by the Bush administration when major talk show hosts were virtually ordered to the White House in November (I recall the event but not the exact date) of 2008. I do recall that none of them that I heard would talk of the content of the meeting. Kerchner believes that they were ordered to sign documents, at the risk reprisals, perhaps from the FCC and legal reprisals for incitement, agreeing not to raise the eligibility issue. The reason stated was the certainly of riots and and the loss of life that would result.

This is plausible, given the SEIU and Acorn goon squads under control of the “Progressives”, and certainly not without precedent. It could be construed as racist, and likely would be so construed. Look how Valerie Jarrett and Obama have raped the black community in Illinois with their public housing scams. Their motivations are about power, not race. Obama, never part of the black community in the U.S., has strong Muslim ties and Valerie too, spending some significant part of her childhood in Iran. Both were nutured in a community of the far left elite.

Recall Obama’s support of cousin Odinga’s strategy when he promised riots if here were not elected Prime Minister. He didn't win the election in Christian majority Kenya, and probably didn't expect to. The riots, prosecuted by Muslims, who had been promised Sharia law in Kenya if Odinga prevailed, killed over one thousand Kenyans, mostly Christians, resulting in the power sharing agreement now in effect. This was the well-designed application of deadly force. How many thousands would have died in the U.S.? Did Obama become president because of a media silenced by the promise of riots to dwarf Watts and Detroit?

Recall that VP Cheney never asked for questions, as required by law, about Obama’s qualifications for the presidency during the joint session of congress to declare the choice of the Electors. Was it an accident? Congress investigated McCain's eligibility on at least three occassions, and held hearings, but refused to investigate Obama's. Is that "Equal protection under the law?" I doubt that there are many accidents where the free world is being negotiated. I also wonder if Robert's difficulties delivering the oath of office were an accident.

Kerchner has named Cheney and Pelosi among defendants in his lawsuit. Currently, no one has produced evidence that Bush imposed the reign of silence on conservative media. Could Clinton have been similarly muzzled - a promise of race riots?

Please don't forget, it was Obama himself who said “I was born a subject of the British Commonwealth.” He claimed, though it is legally irrelevant, that he was born a dual-citizen. A dual-citizen is not a natural born citizen. Obama is not a legitimate president, unless his father is not Obama I, and the real father was a citizen when Obama II was born. Obama I was an alien here on a student visa. If Obama II happens also to have been born in another nation, then he also fails jus soli - he was not "born in the country." Now that the public is realizing that they didn't know who this man is or what he was about (though some of the liberal left was well represented by Charlie Rose, who asked those questions before the election - more power to his honesty about it - "We don't know who this man is and what he believes?" With almost three years remaining it is just as important now to find out as when it was being concealed by the state-run media before the election. If our Constitution is law, Obama was not born with sole allegiance to the U.S. and is not a constitutional president.

Rush has brought it up at least a couple of times. Savage has been all over it. Beck has completely dismissed it and more or less made fun of those who ask the eligibility question. Those are the only ones I'm aware of. The questions haven't gone away and obama still refuses to answer or even acknowledge them.

You might find some of the comments interesting.

You’re exactly right.

Eligible or not, Obama is doing such a bad job. - worse than anybody imagined - and he’s dragging the democrat party down with him. He’s become more of a liability to them than an asset. I wouldn’t be surprised if they found a way of getting him out of office themselves. And if they find him ineligible, they will have a lot of ‘splainin to do as to how he got on the ballot in the first place.

Be careful. The infamous April Fool’s e-mail starts out like that...

I agree. I thought about after posting and I think the public would turn on him and the Dems hard. It all comes down to the lying TV news media. They will spin endlessly for the Dems and idiots will follow.

I think by the summer the economy and stock market will be a LOT worse. The Dems get all the blame.

I'm an old white guy, but I think you may be underestimating the disappointment with Obama in the Black community. Blacks didn't raise a hand to save his prestige that he put on the line in VA, NJ or MA.

The Black columnist in the NY Times has been grousing about Obama for some time.

Should Obama be removed from office, it becomes the ultimate opportunity to play the race card, because the still-“conservative” Supreme Court would have to “conspire” with the "racist" Republicans to force Obama’s departure from office. Democrats could swear Obama’s innocence, a repeat of the Lewinsky defense, in which Bill Clinton came out more powerful politically. The Democrats could raise the race issue with the Republicans until the end of recorded time for removing the first Black President from office.

Then the riots start...in more 'upscale' neighborhoods this time, and when people defend themselves, Martial Law is declared...

A lot depends on how the press spin the issue.

Clinton was impeached for the same charges Nixon was facing: Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. It was the press who winked at the issue and said it was 'all about sex'.

If he had come cleaner than the blue dress instead of lying about that, maybe he would have been charged with other and more nefarious charges and history would read differently.

Either way, the liberal press have generally established themselves as enemies of the Republic in the past few decades and will unfortunately frame the way the people see the issue so long as people watch and read their stuff.

“Is removal will be bloody as in a race war that only Charlie Manson would love.”

Sure beats the market crash and depression coming probably before the end of the year. Nothing will improve with him in charge. Hope you saved for a rainy next 3 to 10 years.

I'm an old white guy, but I think you may be underestimating the disappointment with Obama in the Black community. Blacks didn't raise a hand to save his prestige that he put on the line in VA, NJ or MA.

Good observation. Why do you suppose that is so?

Is the black population sufficiently large in those respective states to have made a difference in the election results?

Motivated, organized people vote in midterm and special elections.

Let me be more specific: self-motivated, self-organized people vote in midterm and special elections. These are NOT the sort of people who can't get off their duff long enough to be legally registered to vote and get to the polls under their own steam.

The 2008 election of BO was in large part about novelty: BO, the first "black" President.

I understand that Biden could not step in as POTUS because he was never voted in or elected. Biden was selected by Obama but you can be sure the people voted for Obama and not Biden. It would seem if Obama is illegal then his choice for VP would then be illegal. Hillary lost the nomination and, as I understand, the next highest number of votes for the presidency was McCain and he would take over. Pelosi would go down with Obama because she committed fraud and I think it can be proven that Hillary also knew about his ineligibility and also committed fraud by covering it up. Actually, an honest person would never have accepted the position of Secretary of State knowing the president was committing fraud on the entire country.

This is so confusing because we are in such uncharted waters and I really believe that none of us really know how the system will work. We’ve never been here before!!! I have faith that it would be worked out but no matter which way it goes, there will be unhappy people.

Kerchner has named Cheney and Pelosi among defendants in his lawsuit. Currently, no one has produced evidence that Bush imposed the reign of silence on conservative media. Could Clinton have been similarly muzzled - a promise of race riots?

Dear Spaulding,

Let me begin by saying that I enjoy reading your posts and the knowledge you bring to these discussions.

What you have said here is troubling. It would indicate that we are no longer a free country.

I understand that Biden could not step in as POTUS because he was never voted in or elected. Biden was selected by Obama but you can be sure the people voted for Obama and not Biden.

Sixty five million people voted for Biden in November 2008 and 365 electoral electors voted for him a few weeks later.

..., the next highest number of votes for the presidency was McCain and he would take over.

Anyone who has ever read the Constitution would realize just how ridiculous that suggestion is.

I fully suppport investigation, full transparency, and court action to establish the constitutional facts regarding Obama’s eligibility all the way up to the SCOTUS.

But Rush, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Levin and Malkin are currently destroying Obama on the issues with the help of Murdock every day. They are destroying Obama on the issues including hammering Obama’s coddling of Islamist terroists in civil court, rather than in military tribunals, and Obama’s refusal to describe Islamist terrorism as Islamist. This is hardly cowtowing to any sentiments that Prince Alwaleed might have.

Beck may have unfairly dismissive of “birthers” but he gives the correct answer to the ultimate question of the moment which is “Is it better for Obama to be defeated by exposure and education of the public of his radical progressive, socialist agenda, or to be exposed as being ineligible?”

If SCOTUS ruled tomorrow that Obama was ineligible and removed him, I would do handsprings, but the vast SEIU, ACORN, progressive academic and political power structure would still be intact and able to regenerate...with Hillary!

The economy by this summer is going to be horrible. The stock market may lead the way lower. As long as he and his marxists are in power - there will be no new jobs.

Illegals are destroying Florida along with the soaring unemployment tax that is driving businesses out. A lot of big ones are leaving for Texas including Siemens.

I stand corrected... You’re right as Biden was on the same ticket as Obama.

“Uncharted waters” for sure... I only pray the Nation survives the Perfect Storm that will arise in those uncharted waters as a result of the Dem’s political fraud and skullduggery.

Thanks Joe,

I’ve been here, just too busy to comment so I never joined. I’ve followed the web site for months and months though.

Thanks for the welcome.

You’re welcome... stay the course.

Charles Manson's “Helter Skelter”
and Hillary's “Scorched Earth Policy” are one and the same thing.

Charles Baron let that secret out in August of 02 during the rally for the reparation for slavery.

He said if there wasn't reparations there would be scorched earth, meaning race riot.

What do you think would have happened if it had been confirmed that BHO was not eligible to be prez right before the election?

Who do you think would be in the WH right now?

" Consider this scenario, the Democrats actually let “birther” investigations to go forward, publicly condemning the Republicans for pushing the issues, while quietly not impeding or even facilitating them . Two outcomes can happen. Obama is proven eligible and the Republicans are embarrassed and fall from public grace. Obama retains power and Democrats regain some public confidence.

Should Obama be removed from office, it becomes the ultimate opportunity to play the race card, because the still-“conservative” Supreme Court would have to “conspire” with the "racist" Republicans to force Obama’s departure from office. Democrats could swear Obama’s innocence, a repeat of the Lewinsky defense, in which Bill Clinton came out more powerful politically. The Democrats could raise the race issue with the Republicans until the end of recorded time for removing the first Black President from office....."

You could be right, but, they have over played the race card angle.
The Scott Brown win in Mass is a paradigm shift among the electorate, a shift have happened.
If Obama is found to be ineligible, and it has been found that Obama, Nancy Pelosi, the whole Democratic Party, the main stream media will commited fraud far and wide much worse than Watergate, they ( the DNC and the whole Democratic Party and the MSM will be damaged for decades, and the more they cry racism, the worse it will get for them.
Crying wolf to many times will lose it's effectiveness.
You also have to remember, people are still hurting from the economic down turn, what is it that the people will hear ? false cries of racism ? or feel the real pain from being out of a job ?