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Stray Hydrogen Atoms Become Deadly for Starships Traveling at Light Speed
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| 2/17/2010
| Jeremy Hsu
Posted on 02/18/2010 1:34:50 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
Science fiction writers may have to rethink how their starship crews survive travel near or beyond the speed of light. Even the occasional hydrogen atom floating in the interstellar void would become a lethal radiation beam that would kill human crews in mere seconds and destroy a spacecraft's electronics, New Scientist reports.
Just a few stray wisps of hydrogen gas -- fewer than two hydrogen atoms per cubic centimeter on average -- would translate into 7 teraelectron volts for a starship crew traveling at 99.999998 percent of the speed of light. That's as much fun for humans as standing in front of the proton beam created by the Large Hadron Collider, according to William Edelstein, a physicist at Johns Hopkins University.
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Tags Science, Jeremy Hsu, hydrogen, interstellar space travel, light speed, spaceships, star trek, starships, warp speedEdelstein added that the radiation dose would reach 10,000 sieverts within a second; the fatal radiation dose for humans is just 6 sieverts. He predicted that any extraterrestrials who might have created starships capable of such high speeds might have died upon their inaugural voyages, and New Scientist adds a preliminary funeral note for Kirk, Spock and the rest of Star Trek's USS Enterprise crew traveling at warp speeds.
But hold on a second. The warp speed concept of Star Trek supposedly involves manipulating space-time, so that the actual starship travels in a bubble of normal space-time.
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TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: hydrogen; hydrogengas; lhc; lightspeed; physics; science; starships; stringtheory; theoreticalphysics
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To: sonofstrangelove
A double-ended Orion drive starship would appear to be the appropriate answer at our current level of technology.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:38:23 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:39:02 AM PST
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
To: Spktyr
A double-ended Orion drive starship would appear to be the appropriate answer at our current level of technology. Deceleration, yes. But wouldn't that retard initial forward acceleration?
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:43:10 AM PST
by
Talisker
(When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
To: sonofstrangelove
Federation starships have navigation shields for just these kinds of things.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:48:29 AM PST
by
Future Snake Eater
("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
To: Spktyr
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:48:50 AM PST
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
To: Spktyr
Hey ? as long as that stray atom can cook my eggs and bacon in 5 seconds flat, I 2’nd the agreement with you...
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:49:35 AM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: Future Snake Eater
You are correct. It also mentioned it in the article
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:49:41 AM PST
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
To: sonofstrangelove
I choose the freezarinos, even if it takes longer.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:50:42 AM PST
by
bsf2009
To: Talisker
Somewhat. On the other hand, nothing, and I mean NOTHING known to human science is going to be getting through the giant bow shield/pusher plate.
As Project Rho puts it, even hitting the pusher plate with a contact-fused thermonuclear fusion warhead won’t do anything.: “If you are attacking an Orion drive spacecraft with nuclear warheads, they will just point their pusher plate at the missiles and laugh at you.”
Best part - it could be built using 1960s technology.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:53:43 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
A gadgetrometer might solve the problem of the stray atom... it’s worth a try.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:54:15 AM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: Star Traveler
something to think of as you travel through the stars
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:56:08 AM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
To: HiTech RedNeck
" something to think of as you travel through the stars "
Yeah, but, watch out for that stray atom that will flow through your mind on that warp speed, no , wait, it's quantum speed.
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posted on
02/18/2010 1:58:47 AM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: Future Snake Eater
Indeed. What do they think those big dish's on the front of the engineering hulls are for. Satellite TV?
To: sonofstrangelove
To: American Constitutionalist
I’ll put my faith in the meters-thick pusher plate/shield, thanks anyway. :P
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posted on
02/18/2010 2:06:33 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: sonofstrangelove
But as our traveler's speed increased to a significant percentage of light speed his mass would correspondingly increase and the the stray hydrogen atom would be little more than an insect on the windscreen.
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posted on
02/18/2010 2:12:36 AM PST
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: count-your-change
Remember, the interstellar space is vastly composed of hydrogen. A proposal called an interstellar ramjet was to scoop this hydrogen and spit it out the back as thrust.
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posted on
02/18/2010 2:19:46 AM PST
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
To: sonofstrangelove
I know hydrogen atoms floating in the interstellar void screw the grill up on my truck when I hit 85mph so I can imagine what it would do at light speed.
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posted on
02/18/2010 2:23:49 AM PST
by
maddog55
(OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
To: sonofstrangelove
I remember reading about that way back.Unfortunately the scoops needed to be huge (miles across) due to the scarcity of atoms in sufficient numbers to produce thrust.
Another form of thrust I remember was along the lines of detonating a hydrogen bomb directly behind a suitably armor plated spacecraft.
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posted on
02/18/2010 2:27:13 AM PST
by
mitch5501
(Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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