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Fuel Taxes Must Rise, Harvard Researchers Say ($7 gallon gas to meet Obama's targets for emissions?)
The New York Times ^ | March 2, 2010 | Sindyan N. Bhanoo

Posted on 03/02/2010 5:46:32 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian

To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

To reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the transportation sector 14 percent from 2005 levels by 2020, the cost of driving must simply increase, according to a forthcoming report by researchers at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

(Excerpt) Read more at dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; economy; energy; epa; gasoline; gastax; globalwarming; greenhell; harvard; obama; taxes

1 posted on 03/02/2010 5:46:32 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Didn’t they get the memo that all the AGW data was fake?


2 posted on 03/02/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Imagine the reduction in carbon emissions that could be achieved by muzzling all the “Harvard researchers”.


3 posted on 03/02/2010 5:49:44 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping!


4 posted on 03/02/2010 5:50:22 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

It all depends on how soon these assclowns want a full blown depression.


5 posted on 03/02/2010 5:50:55 PM PST by webschooner (Lincoln Freed the Slaves ... Obama Enslaves the Free)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

When did the USA become Europe?!?!?!?!?

BHO is taking us down the primrose path and we don’t even get a dinner!


6 posted on 03/02/2010 5:51:04 PM PST by Calif4Palin (Proud Moosehead....)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

7 posted on 03/02/2010 5:51:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

7 dollar gas=pols decorating lamp posts.


8 posted on 03/02/2010 5:52:44 PM PST by Farmer Dean (every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I volunteer HARVARD professors to pay $7/gallon for 10 years. Let’s see how they get along first.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 5:53:01 PM PST by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over two years with no infections at all.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Maybe the masses need to defund Harvard and the EPA.


10 posted on 03/02/2010 5:53:35 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: Cheap_Hessian

For anyone who thinks the economy is in the crapper now, just wait for this little number.


11 posted on 03/02/2010 5:55:02 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
Thanx !

 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 03/02/2010 5:56:04 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
I can afford gasoline for my five hybrid-offset vehicle at $7 a gallon.

Suck my tailpipe, greenies.

13 posted on 03/02/2010 5:56:51 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

$7 per gallon gas would result in the great depression looking like the good old days.


14 posted on 03/02/2010 5:57:54 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Did McCain try to meet Obama in the middle yet?


15 posted on 03/02/2010 6:01:47 PM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: driftdiver
Didn’t they get the memo that all the AGW data was fake?

I know. The American MSM and the bulk of the Government bureaucrats are going around with fingers in their ears and saying, 'la-la-la', whenever people point out that the Global Warming 'hypothesis' has been built on a foundation of lies, hand-picked data, and tortured computer models...

16 posted on 03/02/2010 6:03:48 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

It seems like Harvard folks always want things that will either cost us our money, freedom, or both.

A pox on all of them, I say.


17 posted on 03/02/2010 6:04:56 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: freedomfiter2
But you see, the Ivy League Harvard types are smarter than the rest of us middle class simpletons. Freedom is boring... why are we wasting precious resources on our pathetic needs and wants? Our dear leaders could help us collectively change the world if us rubes would just shut off! We are not the anointed! We are not the elite!

Who are we to say we cannot afford $7 gas? How selfish are we trying to better the lives of the middle class by avoiding a Great Depression? We need to obey the brain trust to guide us out of this mess and lead us into the land of bilk and cheap money. /s - the whole post

18 posted on 03/02/2010 6:16:39 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

Well, we will unset those targets soon enough. The tyrants of the EPA are going to get reigned in also. This is your swan song libtards, enjoy it.

19 posted on 03/02/2010 6:24:43 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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Of course Sor0bama wants $7.00/gallon gas. In REAL terms, not today’s dollars.

After all, $4.00/gallon and the missing $550 billion run on US banks elected them in the 1st place.


20 posted on 03/02/2010 6:28:42 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I’m still ticked. By what gives this Harvard Professor the right to destroy my family and my future. By what authority do the gibber heads of the Obama administration destroy my family and my future? GERRRRR


21 posted on 03/02/2010 6:33:16 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Can’t wait to see what a box of Cheerios will cost.


22 posted on 03/02/2010 6:34:54 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Once upon a time, I had respect for Harvard and its’ grads.

Now, it just a fairy tale.


23 posted on 03/02/2010 6:35:24 PM PST by razorback-bert ( if you're doing an experiment, you should report everything that you think might make it invalid)
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To: Glenn

“Hybrid Offset Vehicle”.

Think I’ll see if I can get a bumper sticker made with this phrase to put on my Jeep. Thanks!


24 posted on 03/02/2010 6:37:08 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I have news for these MORANS from Harvard:
$5 gasoline killed the US and world economy when coupled with triple deficit spending, government inflated housing and mortgage markets, and political/financial thievery. Now the deficits are even bigger and the taxpayers are getting mugged even worse - -$7 gas will tank the whole shebang permanently. There will no longer be a carbon emissions “issue” because there will no longer be any commercial enterprise at all. GDP will evaporate and so will the goobermint. We can’t afford it, you geniuses!


25 posted on 03/02/2010 6:39:51 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: freedomfiter2

“$7 per gallon gas would result in the great depression looking like the good old days.”

I suspect that people would be using $5.00/gal gasoline in non-automotive applications to help explain to politicians that $7.00/gal gasoline is really not a good idea. So, it probably wouldn’t really ever get to $7.00 (in today’s money).


26 posted on 03/02/2010 6:40:48 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Farmer Dean

7 dollar gas=pols decorating lamp posts.

Heads on pikes “stay up” longer.


27 posted on 03/02/2010 6:45:24 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: SunkenCiv; steelyourfaith
Brazilian ethanol

From the article at link:

"Even if Brazilian ethanol remains uncompetitive with gasoline in its domestic market, there is another reason to think that the U.S. is more likely to import significant amounts of Brazilian ethanol than vice versa: last week, when the U.S. released its revised renewable fuel standards (RFS), it found that Brazilian sugarcane ethanol reduced greenhouse gas emissions by 61% compared to petroleum. This number is significant, because any non-corn based fuel that reduces emissions more than 60% qualifies as an "undifferentiated advanced biofuel" and U.S. refiners will be required to purchase escalating amounts of this fuel in the coming years. Although 3rd Generation biofuel companies are developing promising algae, biobutanol, and synthetic biofuels that, in theory, might qualify as a fuel that reduces GHGs by 60%, what is the likelihood that these companies will be able to compete with Brazilian ethanol, at least over the short to medium term"

28 posted on 03/02/2010 6:50:32 PM PST by bigheadfred (BE WHO YOU ARE. SAY WHAT YOU FEEL. Those who matter don't mind.Those who mind don't matter)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Oh, it certainly could. Maybe not exclusively because of supply and demand, but because of the devaluation of the dollar and/or an increase in taxes. With taxes, inflation, and regulations, there are substantial amounts of extra unnecessary and hidden costs added to the price of our energy supply chain.


29 posted on 03/02/2010 6:50:47 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
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30 posted on 03/02/2010 6:52:46 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

I'm sure Lindsay Gramnesty will do his best to make this happen.

31 posted on 03/02/2010 6:53:46 PM PST by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Perhaps we could ease the problem by making natural swamp gas out of all existing Harvard faculty members.
32 posted on 03/02/2010 6:57:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

Reality???? What Reality? $7 gas has no no basis in reality. It would merely be a government construct. That’s not reality... Lots and lots is wrong with the article. But what stuck in my craw is the idea that an artificial government price scheme is reality just pisses me off.


33 posted on 03/02/2010 7:02:24 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Cheap_Hessian

At that price, the economy will be dead. You won’t need to buy gas because you can’t afford to go anywhere. So the money raised by the tax = 0.00


34 posted on 03/02/2010 7:12:48 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: webschooner

make that full blown revolution.


35 posted on 03/02/2010 7:18:01 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: driftdiver

Unfortunately we have the “progressive” Lindsey Graham pushing for this.


36 posted on 03/02/2010 7:20:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Farmer Dean

bump that rope.


37 posted on 03/02/2010 7:26:34 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

In another life, they were Soviet Central Planners.


38 posted on 03/02/2010 7:32:26 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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