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Robber's body discovered under bridge at highways(MS)
vicksburgpost.com ^ | 5 March, 2010 | Steve Sanoski

Posted on 03/06/2010 4:59:34 AM PST by marktwain

The body of one of two men chased after a violent robbery at a small grocery Thursday night was found this morning at the Interstate 20-U.S. 61 interchange and authorities were trying to determine whether he was shot, jumped or fell from an overpass.

A second suspect, described, like the dead man, as Hispanic, was being sought by police in the robbery and assault at La Chiquita grocery store, 4002 U.S. 61 South, which triggered the chase and shootout.

Police received a call about the armed robbery at 8:41, said Sgt. Sandra Williams. “The caller reported two Hispanic males entered the business wearing ski masks. One was carrying an SKS assault rifle, and the other had a handgun,” Williams said.

After taking an undisclosed amount of cash, CDs and jewelry from the store, as well as a wallet and cash from a customer, the two fled the scene in a vehicle and headed north on U.S. 61 South toward Interstate 20, Williams said. A woman clerk at the business was hit in the head with the butt of a rifle during the robbery, then notified the store owner who jumped in his vehicle and chased the robbers, Williams said.

“There was a chase on the highway, which resulted in the suspects crashing out on the bridge,” she said. “The suspects got out of their vehicle and started firing at the business owner. And basically, between the suspects and the owner of the business, there was a shootout.” She declined to speculate on how many shots were fired.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; citizensarrest; goodguyswin; gun; happyendings; hotpursuit; ms; store; takingoutthetrash; wagesofsinaredeath
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To: marktwain

I know even a little kel-tec 9 mm can do deadly damage. That’s the difference between an episode of the a-team and real life.


21 posted on 03/06/2010 6:06:18 AM PST by Hacksaw (Trees aren't our "friends")
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To: driftdiver
A second suspect, described, like the dead man, as Hispanic, was being sought...

Strangely convoluted syntax, this sentence uses!

22 posted on 03/06/2010 6:14:32 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: 6SJ7

Look for Hispanic male with brown drawers, they should.


23 posted on 03/06/2010 6:18:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (They're too busy grabbing power outside their jurisdiction to do their actual job within it.)
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To: 6SJ7

must get, paid, by the, comma, or something, ya know.


24 posted on 03/06/2010 6:19:05 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If you get robbed of a couple hundred bucks, go racing thru the streets and end up hurting one of mine, you would get planted. Quietly and deep.


25 posted on 03/06/2010 6:20:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; Erik Latranyi

sounds like you are just like the owner, who worked to protect his property after he was robbed.


26 posted on 03/06/2010 6:38:23 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Erik Latranyi
*** Let's face it, without the store owner giving chase, there would very likely be two violent criminals at large. Now there is only one. ***

That is true.
However, there may be someone who wakes up today to find a bullet hole in their car, or the siding on their house - or roof - from an errant bullet. And hopefully no people. (That does happen a lot in Chicago, kids shot while in bed)

The car thing happened to us back in '63 from some asshole shooting a rifle into the air. Bullet went right through the roof on the drivers side by the windshield. It was stuck in the padded sun visor. God only knows when the moron who fired was located.

27 posted on 03/06/2010 6:40:35 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Ratman83
*** I see nothing wrong with the scenario, except the owner needs more range time. ***

Okay. Then how about the Store Owner being released and no charges filed.

Don't know if its because he's part of a 'protected class', but any normal person who gets in car chase with robbery subjects, and then engages in a gun fight with them is going to jail for the night - at the least.

28 posted on 03/06/2010 6:47:21 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Condor51

The owner has not been arrested, he was questioned and released.


29 posted on 03/06/2010 6:53:48 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

No crime committed. He followed the perps they crashed and openned fire on him. He shot back in self defense. It is all good for me. Nothing in the story to say that he committed a crime only the robbers.


30 posted on 03/06/2010 6:56:23 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: driftdiver
If you get robbed of a couple hundred bucks, go racing thru the streets and end up hurting one of mine, you would get planted. Quietly and deep.

First, I trust fellow citizen's shooting ability more than the police.

Second, only the perps got hurt.

Third, you sound like a liberal making an argument against private ownership of firearms......wild west crap.

According to your logic, it is too dangerous to carry a firearm ANYWHERE because you might get into a shootout that hurts innocent people.

31 posted on 03/06/2010 7:00:32 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: driftdiver
Self defense does not include reckless car chases through the streets.

I think you are inferring too much here. You don't know if it was reckless or not.

Previously, you inferred that the store owner caused the crash.

I have followed drunk drivers who were all over the road while on the phone with police without putting anyone in danger even though one of the drunks wrecked their car in the end.

32 posted on 03/06/2010 7:05:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Condor51
Don't know if its because he's part of a 'protected class', but any normal person who gets in car chase with robbery subjects, and then engages in a gun fight with them is going to jail for the night - at the least.

You are reading way too much into this and assigning motivations outside of what we know.

33 posted on 03/06/2010 7:07:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Ratman83
*** The owner has not been arrested, he was questioned and released. ***

My point exactly.
That is not SOP.

34 posted on 03/06/2010 7:08:17 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Erik Latranyi

“I think you are inferring too much here. You don’t know if it was reckless or no”

A victim chasing two armed men to recover a couple hundred bucks is reckless. To do so driving on public streets is doubly so. You are the one assuming he did so in a calm and careful manner while managing to keep up with two desperate thieves.

“I have followed drunk drivers who were all over the road while on the phone with police “

Good for you, what does that have to do with these two thugs?


35 posted on 03/06/2010 7:09:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If you chase a kidnapper I would fully support you. If you other innocent peoples lives to recover a few bucks then you are in the wrong.

If you were to hurt one of mine then I would feed you to the gators.

“Third, you sound like a liberal making an argument against private ownership of firearms......wild west crap”

You’re an idiot.

My logic was to shoot the SOBs in the store not go cagney and lacey on them on the public streets. Ya know the public streets where other innocent people are going about their daily lives. Your money is not worth my kids life.

Car chases are only cool on TV. You are advocating anarchy. Step on up if thats what you like and say hello to Mr gator from the inside.


36 posted on 03/06/2010 7:14:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
A victim chasing two armed men to recover a couple hundred bucks is reckless. To do so driving on public streets is doubly so. You are the one assuming he did so in a calm and careful manner while managing to keep up with two desperate thieves.

I assumed nothing. YOU are assuming it was reckless, which is just as wrong as assuming it was not reckless.

Since the owner was questioned and released by the police, one could infer it did not rise to the level of recklessness you assume.

37 posted on 03/06/2010 7:16:52 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: driftdiver

I agree that there might be a litany of issues involved.

IMHO, our society isn’t as stable as in the last century. Whereas the nation might have been able to afford the luxury of life long imprisonment and reserving judgment on capital offenses, their might not merely be an awkward moment here and there, but a tsunami of crime about to hit.

We now have several generations built upon relative morality, instead of Judeo-Christian basics. The detriments of relative morality have long term effects, which many might not recognize until its too late.


38 posted on 03/06/2010 7:18:50 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Since the owner was questioned and released by the police, one could infer it did not rise to the level of recklessness you assume.”

Are these the same police that you don’t trust to use their firearm?

You have a right to defend yourself. You do not have a right to endanger anyone elses life. Choose wisely.


39 posted on 03/06/2010 7:19:15 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cvengr

“IMHO, our society isn’t as stable as in the last century.”

I agree. We have plenty of criminals entering our country and the government welcomes them with open arms. Do you really want the average joe to make high speed chases through the streets to fix this problem?

Anarchy and vigilantism will only make it worse.


40 posted on 03/06/2010 7:21:56 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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