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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: Dinah Lord
Don’t worry - I have just begun to fight. I’m just surrendering to a glass of wine. (have been FReeping all day and fighting the urge to drink heavily even before Stupak became a traitor.)

I understand, and thanks for staying on top of this all day. The tequilla in the freezer is starting to look good to me right about now ;-)

4,501 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:33 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: tndarlin

Just remember the money “going to his district” is OURS!!!! OURS!!! OURS!!! How dare they!!


4,502 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:46 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: sissyjane

“I’m ablut ready to join you with a nice cold Blue Moon”

I’m drinking chianti.


4,503 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:19 PM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: SE Mom

Where are the taxes to be collected ‘immediately’ going to go and who will guarantee those funds?


4,504 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:39 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep, Stupak only need look at Obama’s health care summit with Republicans to see what he’s going to get, not one shred of cooperation after all those promises for bipartisanship


4,505 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:50 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Siena Dreaming

Thank you. Your points were great too.

By the way he said Bush grew government by 300%, 3x .


4,506 posted on 03/21/2010 4:26:51 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: softwarecreator

An awful lot of chaos is occurring right now....


4,507 posted on 03/21/2010 4:27:07 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: sissyjane
a nice cold Blue Moon.

My absolute fave brewski. Cheers!

You might want to make it a double - baby killer Diane Degette is up. Here we go with the sob stories.

4,508 posted on 03/21/2010 4:27:38 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Lobbyist

I’m ablut ready to join you with a nice cold Blue Moon”

I’m drinking chianti.

Riesling here but I may need something harder real soon :(


4,509 posted on 03/21/2010 4:27:42 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: Son House

when it’s all said and done stupack is a democrat. what other result could we expect?


4,510 posted on 03/21/2010 4:27:59 PM PDT by tioga
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To: SE Mom
Oh MY God!!

WOW..More proof it was all a dog and pony show. A pox on all their houses!

sw

4,511 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:05 PM PDT by spectre ( Spectre's wife)
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To: SE Mom

Woo-Hoo!
FWIW, Glenn received it and I have confirmation! LOL.


4,512 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:08 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: Lobbyist

Drinking game: every time a Dem (like DeGette right now) gets up and tells a sob story about the eeeeeeevil insurance companies, take another drink.


4,513 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:10 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: backwoods-engineer

What is this “health care donut hole” they keep talking about?


4,514 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:21 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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Thank you, God. All praise and Glory be to the Lord, Jesus Christ.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1974#1974


Why are they so loud and chaotic? Because God answers prayer. He is not mocked.

I call upon the spirits of our Founders, of all those who have died in battle for this country, of those who came here to live free or die, of the slaves who died, who were freed, to descend on the Capitol today make themselves known to the Congressmen today and defend against enslavement now being voted on.

Make all that is hidden in the deepest places of this deceit plain, O God. Surround the Halls of Congress with Your Guardian angels, and send a mighty, whispering wind of warning plain for all to see in those halls.

Glory be to God, the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Ghost. As it was in the Beginning Is Now and Ever Shall Be. World without End, Amen. Amen.

Confuse the adversary, O, Lord. Defend the innocent. Send words of truth that surprise all who hear them. May You make liars tell the truth unawares and show true intents for all to see. Unseal their hardened hearts and reveal to them who they are and what they are betraying in this bill. Reveal their wickedness on camera. Cause them to stutter, to drop papers, to cause insult and rancor amongst themselves. Unleash Babel, that they may not talk to each other and be understood amongst each other. Reveal their evil intent. And, release in them a spirit of understanding that they and their families, friends and associates, too, will suffer as a result of this, for no one will be left untouched by the chaos they are creating. So, too, then, create a pre-cursor of that chaos amongst them, their thoughts, their communications and desires today. In front of the whole world, may they be revealed for all to see, and, as a result, send them a spirit of shame and guilt and weeping and wailing, a gasping of understanding that sits on their shoulders like a stone, and may this shake them into understanding their betrayal.

Thou art the Lord God Almighty. Praise the Name of Jesus, of the Lord Most High.

This I ask in the Name of Jesus the Christ. Amen
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Save us, O, Lord God, Almighty, from the Congressmen and Administraion enemies who would set to killing our weaker people. Today, all day, remind the Congresspeople, aides, staff and Administration lurker workers and counselors that Thou Alone Art God, that men should worship You Only. May their printers run out of toner, their faxes break down for no reason, their computers freeze up frequently, their phone lines go dead inexplicably and their cell phones lose signal. May they be ensnared in the traps of their own lies and legalese. May their hair be windblown, their clothes just not fit right and the colors they wear wash out their faces. May their makeup look pasty, their shoe soles break off and their dentures slip. May they get runs in their hosiery, their socks not match, their eyes look red and water, and may they catch a sneeze in unison for no reason. May they look the fools and knaves we know them to be. May they be overheard on camera with their true intents and feelings and may You cause them to be ensnared in their own traps.

Afflict them Lord, with Your Judgment and cover them with shame—In front of the world, each other, and, themselves.
In the Name of Christ I ask this. Amen


4,515 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:28 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Miss Didi

I googled. It sounds like a good thing.

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/recommit_mot.htm

THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT
After the third reading of a bill (or resolution), but before the Speaker orders the vote on final passage of the bill (or resolution), a motion to recommit the bill, either with or without instructions, to the committee which originally reported it is in order. (Rule XVI and XVII) This motion is traditionally the right of the Minority and gives them one last chance to amend or kill the bill. Under the Republican changes to the rules of the House incorporated at the beginning of the 104th Congress, the Rules Committee may not report a special rule that denies a motion to recommit with instructions if offered by the Minority Leader or his designee (Rule XI, clause 4(b)). There are two types of motions to recommit under the rules of the House:

1. If the motion to recommit is without instructions, adoption of the motion has the practical impact of killing the bill without a final vote on its passage. In other words, the House has said, “send it back to the committee from whence it came. We don’t want it as it is.” The motion is not debatable if it does not include instructions.

2. If the motion to recommit is with instructions, the originating committee to which the bill is returned is bound to follow those instructions. Usually the instruction is for the committee to “report the bill back to the House forthwith with the following amendment.” The text of the amendment is then given in full. In effect, this is a last chance for the Minority to make a germane change in the bill. The motion to recommit with instructions is debatable for 10 minutes, equally divided, but not controlled (which means neither side may yield time) between the proponent and the opponent, although the time may be extended to one hour at the request of the Majority Floor manager. If the bill is recommitted with such “forthwith” instructions, the bill is immediately reported back to the House on the spot with the amendment, the amendment is voted on, and the House proceeds to final passage of the bill. The bill does not disappear into some legislative limbo as some seem to think. It either is killed (by adoption of a straight motion to recommit without instructions) or comes immediately back (by adoption of the “forthwith” motion to recommit with instructions).

The motion to recommit is the prerogative of the Minority party. In order of priority, the Minority leader and then Minority party Members on the committee handling the bill, by seniority, have the right to offer the motion. They “qualify” to offer the motion if they state that they oppose the bill, at least in its current form. The Member who qualifies and offers the motion should also vote against final passage of the bill if the motion to recommit fails.

It is also worth noting that a motion to recommit need not instruct that an amendment be adopted. The motion may also direct that further hearings be held, or that an investigation be conducted and that a report of that investigation be made to the House, so long as the instruction is germane to the bill as amended. However, in the case of such general instructions, the committee cannot be required to report the bill back to the House forthwith, although it is certainly not precluded from doing so.


4,516 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:35 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: Dinah Lord

No mention of the Chappaquiddick bridge, eh?


4,517 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:49 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: GVnana

Sensenbrenner did a bang up job!


4,518 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:51 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: JouleZ
I knew it was sarcasm. Just spouting off.

Take care

4,519 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:51 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: CherylMc

Hope the pro-lifers who sent Stupak money will ask for it back — oh, wait, they are probably too stupid and uneducated to understand his betrayal.


4,520 posted on 03/21/2010 4:28:57 PM PDT by browniexyz
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