Army to court martial 'birther' officer

msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

[Berlin_Freeper]

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief

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[JoSixChip]

"and I please consider this my apology without reservation or condition"

No worries. Unless you actually meant:

"and I please consider this my apology without reservation or condition"

[sergeantdave]

Everything I said is anecdotal.

“So, there are some soldiers who will follow an order to shoot “rebellious” Americans, and others who won’t.”

Pretty much. But it’s worse than that. I’ve been involved in conversations with COs and they’re very afraid. Afraid for their families, their neighbors and their country. All these idiots thinking that American troops will fire on Americans are major bloody morons.

If that happens, the entire military gets blown apart, separated and lined up on different sides.

We’re in a serious situation.

Take my opinions as it is - an opinion.

Best wishes to you...

[bushpilot1]

The point I am attempting to make is..not all native born citizens can be president..but all natural born citizens can.

It is possible Obama can be native born but he can never be a natural born citizen based on his father being a Kenyan citizen.

This has to get to courts..let them decide finally what is a natural born citizen.

Here is one example..the courts can ponder:

Rep. A. Smyth (VA), House of Representatives, December 1820:

When we apply the term “citizens” to the inhabitants of States, it means those who are members of the political community. The civil law determined the condition of the son by that of the father. A man whose father was not a citizen was allowed to be a perpetual inhabitant, but not a citizen, unless citizenship was conferred on him.

[rbosque]

But until Obama is found to be an usurper by the SCOTUS, they will charge any commander with disobedience, the chain of command still must be followed. The UCMJ and the officers who run the courts can’t make that determination. I admire the officer, but unless all generals file suit it is a pointless exercise.

[conservativegramma]

That’s what I’ve been saying. God bless LTC Lakin, but I would like to see the entire officer corp (all 4 branches) filing suit - including Petraeus. I’m disheartened that this has not been done!

[El Gato]

I seriously doubt this goes to a felony.

If he is dismissed, that is equivalent to a bad conduct discharge, and his separation papers will show "other than honorable". That's enough in many states to get your professional license pulled, or never issued as the case may be. In others it's the conviction itself, not the punitative discharge/dismissal.

He might have to go practice on some Caribbean Island, like Grenada. Maybe he could teach at the True Blue campus of the St. George's School of Medicine? ;). He's not been in the Army long enough, unless he had a break in service, to have served there back during Urgent Fury under a Real CIC, R. Reagan.

BTW, in looking up the effect of a punitive discharge, I discovered that anyone sentenced to one gets an automatic appeal to the Court of Military Review for their service.

[driftdiver]

Well because of BO care many doctors are planning to close their practice anyway.

[driftdiver]

Well because of BO care many doctors are planning to close their practice anyway.

[Josephat]

Yes it does.

[El Gato]

If Obama is not the legitimate president, is Justice Roberts subject to impeachment for his part in the crime?

It's not a crime to be ineligible to the office of Presiden. Fraud in portraying oneself as eligible when one is not, and when one knew or should have know that one was not eligible, that could be a crime, but not one Justice Roberts would be complicit in. He'd be just another victim, so to speak.

[MHGinTN]

Your obamanoid kneepads are cutting off circulation to your tiny brain. Ease up, punky.

[TexasVoter]

Thanks, Berlin. I never would have seen this asinine treatment of a news story without your vigilence and sharing, since I tend to ignore MSNBC.

The story says that Lt. Col. Lakin "believes (incorrectly) that Obama wasn't born in the United States."

I wonder if these editorializing journalists have a photo of the plaque that commemorates BHO's birthplace?

Do you have proper Tea Party attire?:

[rbosque]

Yeah. We’ll have to see.

[MHGinTN]

This is the sort of scum I was referring to at luch this week. This sort of stench has changed FR in a very bad way. These trolling scum are protected at FR, when Freerepublic should be leading the work to expose the affirmative action sonofabitch in the Oval Office.

[Red Steel]

[El Gato]

Oh, and Justice Douglas was a Justice of the United States Supreme Court, who was writing on behalf of the court. His word carries more LEGAL weight than some obscure historian, regardless of when the historian lived.

If you'd read the footnote:

One must be aware, however, that this language does not appear in any case having to do with citizenship or naturalization or the rights of naturalized citizens and its force may be therefore questioned

It's dicta, having no legal force at all. It was an attempt at an analogy. It could still have persuasvie force, but in determining the meaning of a Constutional term, the writing of a historian contemporary with the adoption of the Constitution, especially one as well known and thought of as Ramsay, would likely be much more persuasive.

Ramsay wrote that citizenship “belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.” That is plainly untrue. It may have been true at the time, but the 14th amendment fundamentally changed the definition of citizenship in this country.

It did not. Even it's authors said as much. What it did change was to apply the "rules" to "all persons", regardless of race. Otherwise it didn't change anything. Plus it says nothing about "natural born citizenship". Oh it has the word "born" and the word "citizens" but that does not equate to "natural born", at least until a court says it does, in a case where it matters. Meaning a case involving eligibility to the offices of President or Vice President.

[bushpilot1]

URRICULUM VITAE
(As of February 2010)

LTC (P) Terrence L. Lakin DO, MPH

* US Army, Medical Corps
* Family Medicine, Board Certified
* Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Board Certified
* Aviation Medicine

DUTY ADDRESS:

c/o Commander, DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic
OBJECTIVE: Provide quality medical care and wellness services to individuals, family members and organizations that are actively engaged in service to our country during the Global War on Terror. Contribute to these organizations in additional means to include: response, training, education, planning, policy improvement and implementation.

EDUCATION

2010 Acupuncture for Providers course. Navy/DoD sponsored course

2005-2007 Occupational and Environmental Medicine Residency, USUHS, Bethesda, MD

2005-2006 Masters in Public Health, USUHS, Bethesda, MD

1997-1999 Family Medicine Residency, Womack Army Medical Center, Ft. Bragg, NC

1993-1994 Internal Medicine Internship, Fitzsimons Army Medical Center, CO

1989-1993 University of Health Sciences-College of Osteopathic Medicine. D.O. Degree

1983-1988 Colorado College, Colorado Springs, CO B.S. Biology Major

MEDICAL TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS

2008 Military Medical Humanitarian Assistance Course (MMHAC)

2007 Spirometry, NIOSH approved

2007-present Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Board Certified 2007

2000-present Family Medicine, Board Certified (recertification 2006)

2007 Medical Review Officer Certification (MRO)

2007 Medical Management of Chemical and Biological Casualties (MMBC)

2006 Certified Independent Medical Examiner (CIME American Board of IMEs)

2006 Medical Effects of Ionizing Radiation (MEIR)

2006 Commercial Driver Medical Examiner certificate of completion

2006 Toxic Chemical Training Course (TCTC)

1994 Combat Casualty Care Course (C4)

1994 Army Flight Surgeon Course

Additional past medical certifications: ACLS, ATLS, PALS, NRP, ALSO, PHTLS, PHTLS Instructor, EMT Basic

[kbennkc]

Your obamanoid kneepads are cutting off circulation to your tiny brain. Ease up, punky.

Brilliant . With a brain trust like this the prosecution does not have a chance against the Doctor .

[bushpilot1]

MILITARY ASSIGNMENTS

Chief, Primary Care, DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic, Pentagon, Washington D.C.

JUN 2009-present Chief of Primary Care and Flight Surgeon. Over-site and evaluator of 6 GS and 2 military physicians for clinic that averages over 180 patients a day, physician responder to Emergency Medical Responses within the Pentagon, lead organizer of provider CME training, medical guidance to Pharmacy, Laboratory and Immunizations sections. Flight Surgeon responsibilities included flight duty medical exams for Army and Navy flight status personnel. Undertook additional duties to provide full FS support to the Army’s most important fixed-wing jet unit, USAPAT, which had critical mission of flying the Army and DoD VIPs and key leaders. Provided high quality medical care to include additional modalities of Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy and Acupuncture.

Program Manager, Occupational Medicine, USACHPPM, Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland

AUG 2007-JUN 2009 Program Manager for Occupational Medicine. Supervise staff of 5. Consultants to world-wide Army Occupational Medicine issues, Health Hazard Assessments of new Army Material, Policy review and interpretation and development of new guidance recommendations. Support for Smallpox Epidemiology Response Team (SERT) and Special Medical Augmentation Response Team –Preventive Medicine (SMART-PM). Special projects included: Member of DA Safety Biosafety Level-3 (BSL-3) Laboratory Pre-Operational Inspection team, TNT worker medical surveillance policy development, review/recommendations for Occupational Health electronic medical records for DoD, Precepting OEM residents.

Occupational and Environmental Medicine Residency & MPH Program, USU, Bethesda, Maryland

JUL 2005-JUL 2007

Squadron Flight Surgeon, 3-4 Cavalry Squadron, 25th ID, OEF V Afghanistan

MAR 2004-JUL 2005 Responsible for all medical care aspects for combat squadron. Supervised 14 Combat Medics and 1 PA. Provided aviation medical care, supervision of MEDEVAC assets in western Afghanistan, Combat Casualty Care and small but frequent humanitarian aid to local nationals and the Afghan National Army.

Chief, Family Practice Clinic, US Army Health Clinic-Schofield Barracks, Hawaii

AUG 2003-MAR 2004 Rated 6 GS medical providers, 5 military providers. Provided care for panel of 1400 beneficiaries and flight status personnel.

Flight Surgeon, Hawaii Regional Flight Center and USCG Air Station-Barbers Pt, Hawaii

2004-2005 Provided care to US Coast Guard Air Station 1 day/week. Program was an innovative inter-service contract method of cost savings for the Coast Guard.

OIC/Medical Director, Acute Care Clinic, USAHC-Schofield Barracks, Hawaii

OCT 1999-AUG 2003 Supervisor of 6 Contract Physicians, 4 RNs, 4 LPNs, and 18 Medics in busy Acute Care Clinic. Clinic provided care 18 hours/day, 7days/week, and 2 ambulances responding to 911 calls 24/7.

Resident, Family Medicine, Womack Army Medical Center, Ft. Bragg, NC JUL 1997-OCT 1999

Brigade Flight Surgeon, 4th Aviation Brigade, 1st AD, Bosnia and Germany OCT 1995-JUN 1997

Flight Surgeon, 4th-228th Aviation Regiment, Honduras SEP 1994-SEP 1995 Battalion

Intern, Internal Medicine, Fitzsimons Army Medical Center, CO JUN 1993-JUL 1994

CIVILIAN WORK EXPERIENCE

2006-present Volunteer, Lisbon Volunteer Fire Department, Lisbon, MD (inactive)

1987-1989 Volunteer Firefighter, Western Hills Fire Department, Greeley, CO

1988-1989 Emergency Medical Technician, Monfort Beef Packing Plant, Greeley, CO

1985-1986 Emergency 911-Dispatcher, Police and Fire Department, City of Greeley, CO

PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS

* American Academy of Family Physicians-Diplomat
* Army Aviation Association of America-Member
* Aerospace Medical Association-Member
* American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine-Member
* American College of Preventive Medicine-Member

MEDICAL LICENSE

* Maryland 2006-current
* Colorado 1994-current
* Hawaii 2000-2006

MEDALS/AWARDS

Selected for promotion to Colonel. Would pin on near June 2011.

Bronze Star Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Army Commendation Medal x 3, Army Achievement Medal x 2, Overseas Service Ribbon x 6, ARCAM, NDSM x 2, AFEM, GWOTE, GWOTS, AFSM, ASR and NATOMDL

Combat Medical Badge, Flight Surgeon Badge

Joint Meritorious Unit Award, Army Superior Unit Award

EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES

* Acupuncture for Providers Course Navy sponsored, 300 Hours CME in progress
* Residency in Occupational and Environmental Medicine
* Masters in Public Health
* Force Health Protection Conference 2008, 2006
* Uniformed Services Academy of Family Physicians Conference-2005, 2002
* AMEDD Officer Advanced Course-2001
* CBRNE Instructor Trainer Course-2000
* Operational Aeromedical Problems Course-1995
* Dunker/HEEDS-1995
* Army Flight Surgeon Course-1994
* Combat Casualty Care Course-1994
* AMEDD Officer Basic Course-1990

BRIEFING ACTIVITIES/AREAS OF INTEREST

* Biosafety and Medical Surveillance of Biolab employees
* Residential Radon exposure
* Electro-magnetic field exposure
* Tactical Combat Casualty Care
* G-Forces in non-aviation activities
* Roller coaster fatalities
* Hypoxic muscle training (KAATSU)
* Human factors in British Petroleum Texas City refinery mishap
* History of civil aeromedical evacuation
* Workers’ compensation for federal employees
* Pandemic Influenza and Psychosocial Support Issues