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Army to court martial 'birther' officer
msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; courtmartial; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; usurper
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To: cycle of discernment

One constant about trolls is they like to divert the discussion so it’s about “them”. They like to goad as well.

They think most people don’t notice what they’re doing. They’re wrong.


361 posted on 04/14/2010 2:11:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: SatinDoll

I knew it was a typo. I figured that trolls would try to jump on you for it. Idiots.


362 posted on 04/14/2010 2:11:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Has it occurred to you that they might have the safety of their sources in mind?

It’s the same reason that I’ve redacted the names from the documents my sources have given me - and my own, for that matter. If/when I’m needed to sign an affidavit I will do so but until then I prefer to keep my family safe if possible.

A good journalist doesn’t reveal his/her sources without their permission. I just hope that you show the same skepticism every time a journalist cites a source who “spoke on condition of anonymity”. I can live with that standard of evidence, as long as you apply it equally to all your sources. If not, it’s sheer hypocrisy.


363 posted on 04/14/2010 2:12:45 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: LibertyJihad

All I see is your misguided opinion.


364 posted on 04/14/2010 2:21:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Figures.)
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To: penelopesire

There is more to this drama than a hawaii birth certificate..dont forget the natural born issue. Does not matter if Obama was born in hawaii..his father is a non US citizen.


365 posted on 04/14/2010 2:26:06 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Evil Slayer

... and the president has the power to put this whole matter to rest without court-martialing a career military officer by showing his birth certificate.


366 posted on 04/14/2010 2:30:38 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: SatinDoll
Mr. Orengo This O'Rengo guy sounds like a racist .
367 posted on 04/14/2010 2:31:42 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: BP2
LOL. Are you saying that Congress is incapable of making a mistake?

No. I'm say that sometimes, you get screwed. Maybe the runner really did miss 3rd base, and should be out, and the inning over. Too bad the ump missed it, and called him safe at home. But yelling, screaming, whining, litigating, crying, moaning and (expletive deleted)ing, won't change the call after the fact, and won't take the run off the score board. So you can either throw the next pitch, or take your glove and go home.

Of course, Birthers would look a lot better if they had something approaching credible, admissible, evidence, that the call was missed.

368 posted on 04/14/2010 2:39:08 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Kellis91789
I think pushing Jews into furnaces on the excuse that they were just “following orders” has made officers cautious about making sure their orders are lawful. Silly of them, I suppose.

Those of us in the Americal Division received very clear and very frequent instruction on that topic right after a certain LT tried to blame others with that lame excuse . Do you see no difference in being ordered to do something illegal , and and a situation where an otherwise legal order is coming from a commander who may have attained his position by fraud ?

369 posted on 04/14/2010 2:40:00 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: butterdezillion
I just hope that you show the same skepticism every time a journalist cites a source who “spoke on condition of anonymity”. I can live with that standard of evidence, as long as you apply it equally to all your sources. If not, it’s sheer hypocrisy.

I do, especially when the anonymous source is making extraordinary claims. Seriously, if there was actual evidence of this, the well known figure would simply go public and be untouchable, not to mention becoming a free-speech hero.

Of course, actually reading what's said in the blog post paints a rather different picture of this alleged intimidation. First off, it's pretty clear that we're talking about Fox News here, and the fact that Fox executives have pretty much banned birther talk is not exactly news.

Beyond that, the closest thing to a smoking gun is "an administrative assistant" who says that she was asked to set up a meeting after another meeting "between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.” She wasn't at this first meeting, and there's no mention of FCC licenses (which, by the way, a cable news station doesn't need because they don't broadcast over the airwaves).

370 posted on 04/14/2010 2:44:19 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: glennaro
That is exactly how this should be approached on this forum, from a political perspective.

It doesn't really matter how a military trial is run. What matter is making a political liability of this for Obama to either halt or slow down to a crawl his agenda.

The small details of a military case may be interesting to some, but this is a political forum and we should be attacking from a political angle.

How can Obama in good conscience as Commander in Chief allow a US military man such great trouble when all he has to do is show his bc??

371 posted on 04/14/2010 2:46:10 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Figures.)
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To: Pilsner
Of course, Birthers would look a lot better if they had something approaching credible, admissible, evidence, that the call was missed.

And what they want is for the runner to provide that evidence for them.

372 posted on 04/14/2010 2:46:26 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I gave $50.00 to support him, emailed all my friends the link, and urge others to contribute as they can.

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/who-is-ltc-terry-lakin.html


373 posted on 04/14/2010 2:47:05 PM PDT by NurseZac
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To: NurseZac

Thank you very much for the link.


374 posted on 04/14/2010 2:48:51 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Figures.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Right. I remember the Chrysler lawyer and Gerald Walpin both becoming untouchable “heroes” because they revealed Obama’s crooked threats.

I guess your point has been proven...


375 posted on 04/14/2010 2:49:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: jamese777
But if you absolutely MUST see the original, vault copy, long form, wouldn’t it be better to have it subpoenaed directly from the state rather than trusting a document released BY Obama?

Oh yeah! And that's what any court that wants it will do.

The Republican Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark L. Bennett has statuatory independent subpoena power but he hasn’t chosen to exercise it to quickly resolve this issue, unfortunately

Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean someone shouldn't. Like this military Court.

376 posted on 04/14/2010 2:50:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Pilsner

How about the Hawai Department of Health confirming that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery and the best they have isn’t even as legally credible as the Kenya BC’s?

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


377 posted on 04/14/2010 2:51:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: keats5
. I just posted the source to attempt to nail down some definition of “natural born.”

It's not to be found in statute law. It can't be, because laws cannot define or redefine Constitutional terms. Imagine if they could redefine "quarter" for example, and put a soldier in your house without your permission. Maybe one from Obama's Domestic Security Force?

378 posted on 04/14/2010 2:53:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: jamese777; All

“The US Supreme Court has already rejected hearing any of seven different Obama eligibility lawsuits: Berg v Obama, Craig v US, Donofrio v Wells, Herbert v Obama, et. al., Lightfoot v Bowen, Schneller v Cortes, and Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz. There is no Obama eligibility lawsuit on the US Supreme Court docket for 2010.”

Silence does NOT a ruling make. Can someone here on FR besides jamese777 verify what he is saying about Indiana?????


379 posted on 04/14/2010 2:53:30 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sprite518

I recently got a U.S. passport with a certificate of live birth.


380 posted on 04/14/2010 2:54:06 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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