Posted on 04/14/2010 9:30:46 AM PDT by Ed Hudgins
It is anyone’s guess about whether succession could be accomplished with or without bloodshed. If the union does break up, I hope you are right.
However, it is open to question whether our current crop of Leftists are completely averse to the use of force. Many of the 0bomunists are great admirers of Mao, not exactly an advocate of non-violent change. Rahm Emanuel and 0bama himself have alluded to the creation of some type of federal paramilitary force. 0bama is not pragmatic, he is decidedly provocative when dealing with his opposition.
The closest parallel for the 0bama regime I can find in history seems to be Lenin and the Russian revolution. Lenin was a true blue ideologue. His favorite scapegoat was the bourgeoisie. To gain support among the public and soldiers, he urged an immediate end to the war with Germany. He manipulated elections to gain control of the Duma from the moderates. After seizing power, Lenin signed a disastrous treaty with Germany that ceded 1/3 of European Russia to Germany in 1917. This allowed him to deal with his enemies at home and consolidate power. In fact, the Russian revolution in 1917 was the easy part. The real bloodbath occurred in the civil war which persisted well into the 1920s.
The only thing I can say unfortunately is that we suffer from the curse of living in interesting times.
“Heinlein stated that the villain in a story never considers himself a bad guy, and I think he was mistaken. There are villains who know perfectly well they’re bad guys and revel in it. Hate will do that. Hate codified as political doctrine will do that. And that’s what we’re facing.”
Yes, unfortunately you are correct. I have met some real hateful leftists in my time.
Well they are all 'generalities' aren't they? I mean just because someone lives in the city doesn't imply much about their politics either.
In fact, if we took the cardinal sin of the coming conflict to be support for Obama you could not find a more nearly perfect corrilation than "having black skin". If you equated them, you would be right more than 19 out of 20 times. If you equated "blue state resident" you would be right less than 12 out of 20 times.
And regardless of analysis like this, once actual fighting starts (if it ever does, which I hope it does not) history tells us that 'factor 2' will outweigh all other factors by orders of magnitude. That's not fair, it's not right, but it's still likely to be the case.
Which is another good reason I hope and pray we pull back and find a peacefull way out of this.
One thing is for sure. Things cannot continue in the direction that they are going now without something breaking.
We are already in one. The other side is warring and we are being civil.
“It wont be a fight to control the central government, it will be a fight to free ourselves from it.”
Just like in 1775 and 1861. Won the first, lost the second.
BLOAT...
As we all hear occasionaly...BLOAT...
One of my favorites...
In the absence of any order whatsoever, people are reduced to the lowest basest motives and actions. Race is down there among them. I think it would be foolish to rule out race as a motive in a situation of pure chaos.
europe is still kicking. We’ve got quite a few years to go yet before we are at a european like situation.
So you’re saying this is an opportunity?
“.... but color of skin does not individually make us collectivist, or suburban, or capitalist.”
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Yeah, sure melanin content does not dictate perspective or philosophy.
However, cultural mores as dictated by race certainly DO.
The original point on race was valid and highly apropos.
Only for the survivors.
Waaaaay too few guv agents to directly threaten the number of kids involved here. And the few that might be so as to "provide an example" to the rest of the population to keep them in line? Going Galt would be the VERY last thing on the parents mind.
A starve `em out ploy will be met with the vote `em out solution. Parenting goes right on by democrat or republican.
The "just following orders" crowd had best tread lightly with this scenario.
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