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New 'safety plan' would control what you eat
WorldNet Daily.com ^ | May 01, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/03/2010 11:01:50 AM PDT by Windflier

Critics say a bill pending in the U.S. Senate would do for Americans' food supply what "Obamacare" is doing to the nation's supply of health-care resources.

And it's generating a surge of alarm among small-farm operators and natural food advocates.

"S. 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010, may be the most dangerous bill in the history of the U.S.," writes Steve Green on the Food Freedom blog. "It is to our food what the bailout was to our economy, only we can live without money."

The plan is sponsored by U.S. Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich. ...

...Shiv Chopra, a Canada Health whistleblower, who concluded S. 510 "would preclude the public's right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; cheezburger; democrats; dingell; economy; farming; fat; food; liberalfascism; nutrition; obama; socialism; tyranny
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To: bboop
Mr. O and his cronies seem to have forgotten where We the People’s inalienable rights COME FROM. Shall we help him remember?

If he and his cronies keep pushing things the way they are, they won't just get "reminded". They'll get a whole new education in where the real power lies in America.

81 posted on 05/03/2010 5:39:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mojitojoe
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

Quite a few other countries are moving up economically. Have you visited Sao Paulo, Beijing or other growth areas? High rise offices and apartments, four story air conditioned shopping malls, safe subways, etc. A goodly portion of the world is advancing, while Obama is trying to take the USA down.


82 posted on 05/03/2010 5:43:48 PM PDT by magooey (then - NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!, now - NO DATA! NO WARMING!)
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To: Natural Born 54
“Some people believe that armed citizens don’t stand a chance against an army, especially one as powerful as USA. This is the BS lie all governments around the world want you to believe, but the reality is very different.

If every block in the country, USA for example, has a dozen men with fire arms, the one that doesn’t stand a chance is the military force. It’s the perfect guerrilla setup, and a general’s worst nightmare.

You can’t nuke or level every block. You can’t arrest the entire country. The “fighters” are already armed, fed, spread out, integrated and infiltrated into the military and government branches. It’s impossible to win."

Wonderfully stated, and right on the mark. The American people are the most invincible army on the planet. Every citizen needs to understand this.

Admiral Yamamoto of Imperial Japan once remarked that he "would never try to invade the United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

83 posted on 05/03/2010 5:44:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
No one, ad I mean NO ONE is going to stop me from raising the food I want to raise without imprisoning or killing me.

I think it's the meddling Socialist bureaucrats that ought to be worrying about us. I mean, after their masters in Washington pass all of these draconian laws, it'll be up to the drones to enforce it all.

Not a good time to be a gov't drone.

84 posted on 05/03/2010 5:49:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sergeantdave
How will the food Nazis like digesting lead?

Ha! "New and improved diet for gov't drones."

85 posted on 05/03/2010 5:51:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The supplements and vitamins control bill is back..... Democrap Waxman (Nostrils, Westside of L.A.), added it as an attachment to the Wall Street Reform bill.

Yep. Just saw the news on another thread.

Time to bust Waxman's nose all over again.

86 posted on 05/03/2010 6:04:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

You said, “Every citizen needs to understand this.” That’s exactly why I chose that section and posted it. I’ll probably post it some more. Most people can’t even imagine the need to think that way much less the fact the Feds can’t win.

The whole book is extremely worthy. If you don’t have it, I strongly recommend getting it. It is the result of what he learned in eight years of economic and government calamity which began in 2001 in Argentina. Very practical knowledge. One example of a tip is to keep your precious metal investments in gold chains - bracelets or necklaces. You can clip a link off to buy something and you are not toting around a gold bar that attracts the wrong kind of attention - plus you wouldn’t get full value for the large quantity. If the US is ever in the kind of economic shape that hit that country (seems to be headed that way), this is the first book you want have handy.


87 posted on 05/03/2010 6:14:20 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: mojitojoe

“If this comes to pass, and anyone stays here, they are fools.”
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Where do 300,000,000 go?


88 posted on 05/03/2010 6:55:08 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Natural Born 54
Most people can’t even imagine the need to think that way much less the fact the Feds can’t win.

The whole book is extremely worthy. If you don’t have it, I strongly recommend getting it.

Got the Amazon page for his book bookmarked for later purchase. Thanks for posting the excerpt, and the tip.

89 posted on 05/03/2010 7:17:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yer welcome, Tex!


91 posted on 05/03/2010 7:19:04 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: RipSawyer

Where do you get that number? The progressive, pinkos, and libs will be quite happy here. I won’t.


92 posted on 05/03/2010 8:44:51 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Windflier

“There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Besides Yamamoto’s interesting (and famous) quote is this true story....

Shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was an international military conference held overseas....I forget where; I think it was in Europe. Anyway, this conference had the generals of many countries in attendance. During a break after one of the meetings, as the story goes, an American general asked his Russian counterpart if the Soviet Union had ever seriously considered invading the United States during the Cold War. The Russian general laughed and said, “Oh, no. You people have too many guns over there.”


93 posted on 05/03/2010 8:46:11 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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To: Windflier

The day someone from the government shows up and tells me I can’t grow my own food in my own yard is the day I raise the Black Flag and start slitting throats.


94 posted on 05/03/2010 8:49:33 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
"...as the story goes, an American general asked his Russian counterpart if the Soviet Union had ever seriously considered invading the United States during the Cold War.

The Russian general laughed and said, “Oh, no. You people have too many guns over there.”

Hopefully, one day, someone will ask Obama in a jailhouse interview, if he ever truly considered declaring Martial Law, and he'll give the same answer.

95 posted on 05/03/2010 8:58:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: spodefly
The day someone from the government shows up and tells me I can’t grow my own food in my own yard is the day I raise the Black Flag and start slitting throats.

Freeper Richard Kimball said on another thread:

Treaties are only as strong as your ability to enforce them.

Same thing goes for crackpot laws.

96 posted on 05/03/2010 9:02:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mojitojoe

Well, you said ANYONE who stayed would be a fool so I took that to mean that everyone should leave. Even if only half of us have sense enough to leave where do 150,000,000 go?

Of course if the productive half leaves the rest will starve but it will take some time for the bodies to all decompose before it will be safe for the other half to come back.


97 posted on 05/04/2010 6:08:17 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Windflier
Ever seen a US gov't bureaucracy that was efficient, productive, and served the the interests of the public

I think our military does an exceptional job in all these respects even though they don't get nearly the budget they deserve. I also think our police do a great job under difficult circumstances. I'm partial to firemen who charge into places people are rushing to get out of. I also respect the FBI for chasing down and finding terrorists and other thugs who would do harm to innocents. And I certainly don't begrudge the prosecutors who go toe to toe with organized crime and other criminals that need to be removed from society.

Or, perhaps you may have noticed that the exact opposite ALWAYS happens with gov't agencies

The FDA is a nightmare of red tape and bureaucracy but, even so, it is a hell of a lot better than what existed before. Food Freedom is a bunch of crazy people making crazy claims that only crazy people believe. There is a lot in this bill I don't agree with -- especially given who is supporting and pushing it -- but it doesn't call for any of the craziness that's being claimed on this thread. The part I copied and pasted earlier is no cause for alarm and is a common sense approach to managing problems within an industry that refuses to manage itself.

There's enough real news to get crazy about out there without getting all jacked up over the fears being fabricated here.

98 posted on 05/04/2010 7:28:51 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Comparing our military, police, and firefighters to the type of bloated, inefficient government bureaucracies that I was talking about is little more than an emotional argument, and disingenuous on your part.

What I was referring to are agencies of the federal government, such as FDA, ICE, BATFE, IRS, FEMA, EPA, HHS, DHS, etc.

Not one of these agencies returns value to the taxpayers equal to their size, power, and funding. Few, if any of them actually provide what average citizens view as a benefit to the nation. In fact, they do much more to curtail and squash our God-given and constitutionally protected freedoms, than anything else.

It can be argued, of course, that they do some good, out of the aggregate sum of all that they do, but it's a poor justification for their continued existence and support by Congress and the taxpayers.

99 posted on 05/04/2010 12:49:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Comparing our military, police, and firefighters to the type of bloated, inefficient government bureaucracies that I was talking about is little more than an emotional argument, and disingenuous on your part.

Yeah, right. I'd be embarrassed too if I'd said what you did earlier. Just for review, let's look again at your statement:

Last time I checked, the military was a US gov't bureaucracy along with the police force, fire department and the justice department. This is the trouble with making grand sweeping statements: These statements can't hold up to even the most basic scrutiny.

This is also the problem with your article. It is filled with knee-jerk conclusions, based on flagrant misunderstandings, leading to a sweeping condemnation that cannot be supported by facts.

What I was referring to are agencies of the federal government, such as FDA, ICE, BATFE, IRS, FEMA, EPA, HHS, DHS, etc.

I'm guessing you'll be less sweeping and more specific in the future. That said, I assure you the facts show that the FDA is much better than what existed prior to the FDA.

Waxman, Dingell, and the rest of this crew, are untrustworthy and should be eyed with a great deal of suspicion. However, the claims being made by their critics (Shiv Chopra & Steve Green) in this article take crazy to a whole new level that should be dismissed by conservatives.

100 posted on 05/04/2010 2:15:25 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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