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Can Israel Survive Without America?
Pinochet

Posted on 05/12/2010 7:34:15 AM PDT by pinochet

The Obama Administration has pressured Israel not to build in Jerusalem, their own capital city. How would we feel, if we were told not to build in Washington DC? Israel has been forced to accept a 2 state solution in the West Bank, despite the fact that Israeli voters supported political parties which reject a Palestinian state on Israeli territory. America's support for Israel is a two-edged sword.

About a month ago, I received a book on Israeli history as a gift. It says that Israel was established in 1948, with official recognition from the UN and the US. But Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies, soon after it declared Independence. Unbelievably, the UN imposed an arms embargo, which denied Israel the arms it needed to defend itself. But the Arabs received huge quantities of arms during the conflict. Israel fought its war of Independence, with one arm tied behind its back.

Instead of helping Israel, a nation that was created by a UN resolution, the world sat back, expecting Israel to be defeated, and the Jews to be exterminated. This was only 3 years after the Holocaust, when the crimes of the Nazis were still fresh in everyone's minds, which shows that nobody learnt anything from the Holocaust.

In their desperate efforts to defend their country, Israel lost 1 percent of their citizens, but were able to defend their independence. But the arms embargo weakened Israel and prevented it from uniting Jerusalem when the war ended in 1949.

In 1954, Gamal Abdel Nasser came to power in Egypt, and inaugurated the modern era of terrorism against Israel. He then nationalized the Suez Canal, which angered its British and French shareholders. In 1956, Britain, France and Israel formed an alliance, that was intended to remove Nasser from power. But the Eisenhower administration in the US intervened and saved Nasser. If Nasser had been taken out in 1956, Israel would not have needed to fight wars in 1967 and 1973.

When Israel defended itself in 1967, it was so loudly denounced by the world, that it afraid of taking tough measures that would assure its self-defense. This opened the way for the 1973 war, which killed 2,000 Israelis. In 1982, the Reagan administration prevented Ariel Sharon from taking out Yasser Arafat, during the Lebanon war. In fact, America saved Arafat's butt, by rescuing Arafat from Sharon in Beirut. This foreign interference helped to prolong the Lebanon war, and cost unneccessary Israeli lives.

If Israel was completely unleashed against its enemies, without being restrained by America, Israel can put the terrorists out of business. The Palestinian problem would have been solved a long time ago, if America had allowed Israel to transfer the Palestinians to Jordan, where they could have formed their own state if they had wanted to.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: america; history; israel; jerusalem
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To: seeker41
Yep, one of the oldest civilizations around. A better question is “Can the USA survive without them?”

That is the true question and the answer is no. Israel has God and the USA has God because we backed Israel. Any nation that turns its back on God, God will turn His back on them.

21 posted on 05/12/2010 8:31:10 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: fatnotlazy

get someone close to him to bungle a burglary...


22 posted on 05/12/2010 8:31:46 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pinochet
Since Israel is YHvH's land,
YHvH will defend it.

Now that 0bama says America is a Muslim nation,
we will be destroyed by YHvH.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

23 posted on 05/12/2010 8:40:52 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
AMEN!!!!
Shmai Yisrael Adonai Eloheynu Adonai Echad
Hear O Israel!! The Lord our God is One!
Baruch Hashem Adonai
Bless the name of the Lord!
"For He who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep..."
Read Psalm 121:4
Pray to God that He might still see fit to have mercy on America.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24 posted on 05/12/2010 9:32:46 AM PDT by JimBobWay
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To: pinochet

Israel will survive despite America.


25 posted on 05/12/2010 9:39:21 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pinochet; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...
"Can Israel Survive Without America?"

Oh, certainly.

But the mutual benefits of our relationship, both secular and spiritual, are too numerous to list. That's why we need to defend and maintain what we had pre-Obama.













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A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."

26 posted on 05/12/2010 11:11:17 AM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: pinochet

In a word, YES.


27 posted on 05/12/2010 11:17:18 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: JimBobWay
Amen ! Brother.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

28 posted on 05/12/2010 11:21:35 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: seeker41

“Yep, one of the oldest civilizations around. A better question is “Can the USA survive without them?””

I concur. As noted by Winston Churchill, the rise and fall of nations can be traced directly to how they treat the Jews -— shortly before England screwed the Jews on Palestine, and start of the freefall of the British Empire.


29 posted on 05/12/2010 12:38:31 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Frantzie

You know, that’s beyond irrelevant.

Not sure why foolish people keep bringing that up.


30 posted on 05/12/2010 12:39:48 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

What some people seem to forget is that the book about the future has already been written and the ending is there for anyone who wants to know what will happen.

Believe it or not, the choice is up to you.


31 posted on 05/12/2010 1:18:12 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc

......What some people seem to forget is that the book about the future has already been written......

That is a positively Islamic view.


32 posted on 05/12/2010 1:19:58 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: bert

Yes, because God doesn’t need us ...


33 posted on 05/12/2010 1:23:41 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: bert

Strike one.

Care to guess again?


34 posted on 05/12/2010 3:14:53 PM PDT by chiefqc
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35 posted on 05/12/2010 4:49:11 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: chris37
Obama hates America, and you can see it all over him and his angry, ugly wife.

I just wanted to see that truth repeated.

36 posted on 05/12/2010 4:57:32 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: JimBobWay
Pray to God that He might still see fit to have mercy on America.

I ask this humbly every single day.

37 posted on 05/12/2010 4:59:15 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Quix

Agree 100%

I think we all might see the Ez 38/39 showdown on the evening news. Israel isn’t going anywhere. God keeps His promises and He’s still on the throne regardless of how everything might look to the eyes of the secular world.


38 posted on 05/12/2010 5:24:53 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot ( Restore our Constitution in 2010/2012!!!)
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To: pinochet

39 posted on 05/12/2010 5:38:41 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: seeker41
Yep, one of the oldest civilizations around. A better question is “Can the USA survive without them?”

My response as well.

40 posted on 05/12/2010 7:12:05 PM PDT by madison10
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