Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity
The origin of modern myths and legends is a side interest of mine, the birther myths among them.
Now I understand why Obama being born in Kenya made it into your belief system, despite it being physically impluasible (requiring around 5 days and five flights, most on propeller planes) and financially impossible (it would have cost about a year of her parents' combined salaries) for Stanley Ann & Obama Sr. to travel there for her to give birth. After all, Obama's Father was from Kenya, so if you are going to make up a myth about Obama being born abroad, what better place than Kenya?
Implausibilty, and even impossiblilty doesn't deter the making of myths if there is a strong emotional reason to believe them, as in this case.
What I don't understand is, of all possible places in Kenya, why make Mombassa the birthplace in your myth? If you look at the map of Kenya, it's on the other end of the country from Obama Sr.'s village, 762 miles away, which would make it a minimum 2 day train ride. Probably longer, since Kenyan trains were very fast in 1961.
I suppose you could argue that there were no hospitals in Obama's village, so they had to travel to a major city. But Nairobi was closer, and more modern.
So why Mombassa? Not only is it completely implausible; I don't see the emotional appeal. Why Mombasssa rather than his father's village? Or why Mombassa rather than Nairobi?
Help me out here, birthers. Why do you reserve this special place for Mombassa in your belief system?
My buddy in Prague said the storm “kinda” missed them, but that they’re going to be without power for two weeks!
LOL. So now the birther myth has a 7 month pregnant woman travelling from Hawaii to Mombassa by ship? What on earth for?
Better question is as BIGLOOK put it why Kapi’olani?
Probably because Kapiolani was a facility specializing in maternity. From their website:
"his is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home."
"Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii's mothers, Queen Kapi‘olani held luau and bazaars to raise the $8,000 needed to open Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1890. She endowed her legacy with 'Kulia i ka nu‘u' or 'Strive for the highest.'"
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
Let’s look at it this way; it’s 1961, do you think Madelyn Dunham would drive her hapai daughter several blocks past Queen’s Hospital to give birth at a clinic? Besides, the clinic would just send her to Queen’s anyway.
Nonsense. Lots of women gave bith at Kapiolani at that time. Haven't you seen the famous Nordyke twins birth certificates?
I know and I feel like swinging for the bleachers today.
Some of the comments are pretty funny.
Pretty broad ain’t it?
This isn't complicated. Barack Sr.'s parents are in Kenya. Barack Sr. is in Hawaii with Stanley. Barack Sr. is corresponding via mail with his parents in Kenya, writing and receiving letters from them, and he's verbally reporting to Stanley what is in those letters.
but if both were in Hawaii, then why was Barack Sr. writing to Stanley????
He wasn't. Nothing in the text indicates he was. What makes you think he was?
Yep.... Kinda brings it back to the orginal Reagan EO and reduces the contraints incorporated in the Bush 43 EO.
The Mau Mau would have saved the USA, who knew? LOL!
” Patrick Hitler, who was a nephew of Adolf Hitler “
I seem to recall a Hill Street Blues episode that had a comic named Nick Hiltler.
And doesn’t that knife cut both ways.
You cannot prove he is legitimate without proof and Barry would need to show both the Hawaii BC and the one he has sentimental attachment to and mused about finding, upon his mother’s death in 1995.
Let’s see if they match....
Too bad its a fake Certification of Live Birth!
Take a closer look at the fightthesmears birth certificate and zoom in on it. You will notice that the pixels around all wording on that document shows altering. It should be clean and crisp, but it is not.
There has been no effort by the Health department in Hawaii to legitimize that birth certificate. They state that they have seen the birth certificate on file, but they have not said that the posted internet birth certificate is legitimate!
Everyone has a long form - so what is the problem and why do you not care that this is a cover up? I’m not convinced that he is Natural born, but I also believe that to be natural born is to have to US citizen parents even if one was naturalized. This gives the child allegiance to only the United States. Barry has divided allegiance which disqualifies him for our highest office.
With a Grand Jury investigation, Obama’s original birth records could be subpoenaed. Hawaii statutes allow for the release of vital records without the permission of the person named on the record to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”
The fact that no prosecuting attorney (District Attorney, US Attorney or state Attorney General) in the nation has ever convened a Grand Jury investigation is telling to me.
I believe that the reason that no one has investigated forgery, fraud or tampering is because of the definitive statement verifying Obama’s birth record by officials of the state of Hawaii: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009.
Does the job come with benefits? Health insurance, government/company provided vehicle, etc...?
They were planning on going back AFTER Barack Sr. FINISHED HIS STUDIES. At that point, he'd have a job lined up in the Kenyan government, who would most likely foot the tab for his relocation.
Who would foot the bill, the equivalent of one year's average Hawaiian's salary, to go back while they are STUDENTS? A furniture salesmen (Stanely's father)? A bank teller (her mother)? Barack's relatives, tribal Africans show live in grass huts?
Get real.
She wrote: Your father wrote back.... Then you were born... Sounds to me that she is speaking to Barack II otherwise she would have said your grandfather wrote back.
That’s how I read it!
The official vital records of the state of Hawaii are sufficient proof in any court of law, and before any Fedearl agency.
You read it incorrectly. Yes, she's speaking to Jr., but she's saying Barack Sr. wrote back to his father (Bambi's grandpa), telling him he's going ahead with his plans to marry Stanley, despite the Barack Sr.'s father's objections.
This isn't complicated.
No standing.
The big difference is that Sun Yat Sen had a motive. Stanley Ann didn't.
What’s your take on it?
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