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Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers"
The Daily Republic ^ | May 15, 2010 | Ross Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson earlier this week dismissed “birther” statements attributed to him and said he believes Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen and the legitimately elected president of the United States.

So does Eleanor Nordyke — and according to her, she should know.

Nordyke, 82, of Honolulu, Hawaii, says that on Aug. 4, 1961, she was in labor with her twin daughters Susan and Gretchen at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital — the same place Barack Obama was being born. The hospital has since been renamed Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.

Nordyke, in a Friday telephone interview with The Daily Republic, said the birthers have consistently discounted her testimony. She is certain they are wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at mitchellrepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nordyke; obama; usurper
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To: Lockbox

Maybe when the wise men showed up on camels. That would certainly be memorable.


61 posted on 05/15/2010 4:57:21 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: Smokeyblue

I have given birth FIVE times, all in the SAME hospital over a period of 13 years.

I had ‘roommates’ (3 times) and private rooms the other two.

I don’t really remember any of the roomies; I remember I was thrilled to hold my babies. Everything else is quite foggy; even w/o the fog of anesthetic wearing off. Sleep deprivation, pain, fluid loss, homones plummeting do affect new moms immediately after birth. I do remember one of the nurses...but only because she is my neighbor!

I am in my mid forties. My last delivery was 13 years ago. Based on my experiences I would (seriously) question the memories of the well intentioned Mrs. Nordyke (who is almost twice my age).


62 posted on 05/15/2010 5:02:50 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ((((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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To: conservative cat

AGREE!

“I don’t see anything that she was witness to that contradicts anything. Did I miss something?”


63 posted on 05/15/2010 5:35:25 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

“She said she was very proud of her grandson who was doing community work in Chicago. She said her daughter had passed away and she helped to raise him.”

This makes it sound like Stanley Ann died during Obama’s childhood and that she raised him for that reason???


64 posted on 05/15/2010 5:39:13 AM PDT by charo
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To: boop

“She never met Obama’s mother, but has his BC number MEMORIZED?”

How does she KNOW his BC number?


65 posted on 05/15/2010 6:02:17 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: DoughtyOne
It seems to me this lady is mixing things she does remember with things she has no way of remembering.

Well said. And that leads to the questions of why? And why now? This whole thing seems off.

66 posted on 05/15/2010 6:37:37 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: patlin

“Like birth certs are issued prior to delivery and the numbers given at the hospital. HI DOH has already confirmed numbers were issued the day the certs were filed so Nelson is just another RINO trying to save face and avoid this constitutional crisis...nothing to see here, move on annoying ones.”

That’s what I was wondering. Her statement doesn’t make any sense at all.


67 posted on 05/15/2010 6:43:53 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: boop
She never met Obama’s mother, but has his BC number MEMORIZED? I bet even Chris Matthews doesn’t memorize info like that.

Excellent point, something very odd here.

68 posted on 05/15/2010 6:45:35 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Smokeyblue

I can’t get back into the article without logging in to confirm it but just the title of this article as posted (”Birthers”??) is a dead give-away of the bias.


69 posted on 05/15/2010 6:49:54 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Smokeyblue
“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother.

When did she find out that Obama's cert number was 10641??? and from whom???? the journalist taking notes in front of her???

And it's that number alone that leads her to say "that his mother must have come in after I did" even though "she never met Obama's mother" ???? -- Never??? even years later???

What a contrived piece of prrefabrication.

70 posted on 05/15/2010 6:54:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: boop
She never met Obama’s mother, but has his BC number MEMORIZED?

LOL Exactly!!! And where did she get it from in order to memorize it since it has been under seal until recently???

71 posted on 05/15/2010 7:11:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Menehune56
After reading the article, it should be titled:

"Woman's hospital memories contradict woman's hospital memories".

72 posted on 05/15/2010 7:23:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
She never met Obama’s mother, but has his BC number MEMORIZED?

Things more probable:
1. I remember the home telephone number of one of my students in the Dominican Republic from 32 years ago because I've just discovered that his dad had been found to be a member of organized crime and they had been dispossessed of their huge house on top of mountain overlooking Santiago.

2. I remember the home address I saw a single time of a 5th grade student from 33 years ago because I recently heard that a pro baseball player had the same name (David Ojeda).

3. I remember the number of my first Mastercard from back in 1980 which I used an uncountable number of times before it was taken over by some other institution and reissued with another number.
None of which I remember, though I do remember the phone number of my best friend from elementary school.
73 posted on 05/15/2010 7:28:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Smokeyblue
Actual Headline :

Nordyke cannot confirm Stanley Ann Dunham, was admitted to Kapiolani Hospital.

74 posted on 05/15/2010 7:30:42 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: Smokeyblue

Where’s the beef?


75 posted on 05/15/2010 7:34:54 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: urtax$@work

Another thing seems fishy, she said her daughters went to school with him for 6 years, that meant Obama went to Indonesia at age 11 or 12, I thought he went to Indonesia much earlier than that. Am I wrong?


76 posted on 05/15/2010 7:35:54 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Smokeyblue

Yeah Eleanor, and I remember everyone I was in contact with on Aug. 4, 1961. Say Eleanor, you want to buy some ocean front property in Arizona from me today?


77 posted on 05/15/2010 8:19:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I don’t think Mrs. Nordyke is saying she remembers his birth certificate number from years ago.

Last year there was an article in the Honolulu Advertiser in which she is pictured holding negatives of her daughters birth certificates. Obama’s “supposed” birth certificate number surfaced during that time. Not sure if it was in the article. The picture she is holding shows us what a long form birth certificate should look like.

What is relevant is that she knows no more than the rest of us regarding the circumstances and place of Obama’s birth. She only know he was born and has a “supposed” birth certificate number higher than her daughters.

The fact that a year and five months after the usurper took office reporters are still trying to use newspaper birth announcements and old ladies as documentation of his Hawaiian birth instead of asking for a “historical” document from Obama. It’s so ass-backwards you just have to know something is wrong here.


78 posted on 05/15/2010 8:19:44 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: urtax$@work

“Nordyke cannot confirm Stanley Ann Dunham, was admitted to Kapiolani Hospital.”

Yep, in a sane world that would be the headline.


79 posted on 05/15/2010 8:25:23 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: marron

To your list of missing Obummer documents, you can add missing legitimate SSAN number. And in my opinion the reason he doesn’t have a legitimate SSAN number is because he couldn’t produce a legitimate birth certificate to get one.


80 posted on 05/15/2010 8:34:54 AM PDT by kiltie65
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