Posted on 05/19/2010 11:22:07 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.
America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:
(Excerpt) Read more at talkingpointsmemo.com ...
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“The people are deluded...and I don’t consider to be stupid. He’s accomplished quite a bit of his agenda thus far because there’s been no ability to stop him. Even if Congress moves to the right after November, he’ll simply use other means to advance his agenda. There’s a reason why he has no fear of (respect for) the people.”
That is as much walking the line as I’ve read anywhere. You do a great job of treading lightly. But I DO sense an attitude of agreement with military action. That’s my take anyway.
keep fer later
I don’t think it will ever be a possibility...and the nation has been taking the Obama medicine since 11/4/08.
The elections are just a few months away. Maybe we should wait and see how it goes before we with go with giving up on elections completely.
Oh... don't get me wrong... I'm for the ballot box and I think that's where the "action is at". It's unfortunate that we don't have better representation for our views at the ballot box, as it seems that the voting electorate is almost evenly split. However you want to represent what is going on at the ballot box, it remains true that many liberals and Marxists and socialists do get elected -- and that's basically the fault of the "voting electorate".
BUT, I still say that we must fight the battle at the ballot box and also by "making more conservatives" in society. And if we can't do that and/or can't win at the ballot box, in the first place -- then not being able to win still doesn't justify going to "armed revolution" -- I don't think.
I mean, that's what voting is supposed to be about, in that a larger majority of people believe that they should have certain representatives in the legislature and have certain policies in the government -- and if it turns out that we can't convince a larger majority for our issues -- then it just means "we're on the losing side". We'll have to keep working at it until we become the "winning side".
HOWEVER, I'm also told by other FReepers that we won't be having any elections coming up this Fall. They ask me why I think that I'm even going to be able to vote this Fall. But, I did hear the same kind of "talk" when Clinton reached his term limit, too ... :-)
A friend of mine in Indiana told me his son-in-law is a law enforcement officer and when he asked him about the Oath-Keepers he looked at him real funny and said they were on their “watch list” of radical fringe groups.
I hate to break it to you buddy, but your opinion that free elections are too imperfect for the United States is asinine, your wanting to impose a military dictatorship instead, is treasonous.
You want “reasonable steps?” Great idea. I’m all in favor of it. But what are those “reasonable steps?” Voting? take a look at how many voters turned out for the recent elections and you’ll see that people are simply too busy to bother voting. Either that or they figure it’s a waste of energy and time, that The Powers That Be will do what they want anyway.
Another “reasonable step” might be mass demonstrations... that is if the media would actually cover them and accurately report them. Didn’t a couple of million people flock to D.C. only to be totally discounted by Zero?
Slightly less “reasonable” would be resistance to federal mandates. Montana led the march with a state law that declares firearms manufactured and staying within the State of Montana would be exempt from federal regulation. A number of other states have passed similar laws and the Feds are planning to ignore those upstart state laws and enforce their own draconian rules.
So what’s the next step? Do we take up arms against the Fed leviathan and risk having the military come out against us or do we sit back and wait for the military to do our dirty work for us?
There is no easy answer. The voters simply will not turn out — for whatever reason and if a two million person demonstration on the mall in front of the Capitol can’t get the attention of our elected “representatives,” what will?
While a military coup would be my last personal choice for resolution of our political problems I think it might — if properly done — be better than a civil war in which everyone would lose.
My “sense” is that there is no hope in strong men or horses. You don’t know me, but I understand the assumptions.
......No national institution is more respected than the American military.....
Perhaps it is that very respect that will make the removal of the leftists acceptable.
The slogan is.... “the king is dead, long live the king.”
The sighs of relief drown out the whimpers of anguish.
We can’t allow Obama to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!
>I hate to break it to you buddy, but your opinion that free elections are too imperfect for the United States is asinine, your wanting to impose a military dictatorship instead, is treasonous.
LOL - Where on this thread did I say I was in favor of the “Military Intervention” option?
What I think would be most effective, is for citizens to strap on their guns and follow the ballot-box* to where it is to be counted, and watch the counting. Then, following the reports to the secretary of state who certifies the results, and then, after the certification has been announced, continue on business. A decade or so of doing THAT and I’ll bet you the crap will stop.
*If things are ‘unkosher’, shoot the bastard that dares defile the election process.
DU was posting a similar theory about Bush in both 2004 and 2008.
I have heard some on talk radio ‘joke’ about this possibility too recently. I always tell people to not believe 'everything' they hear on commercial talk radio, it is a business. Heck, if there is going to be no elections, why did Obama just humiliate himself supporting Spector and Lincoln?
Nope, but you sure are trying to hijack this thread with your anti-"birther" nonsense.
Where are Obama's credentials, anyway?
Aside from that, and all the mis-cited hypothetical situations on all 'those birther threads', I do not think anyone believes warfare in the US is a good or preferable thing, more like a last resort.
To take extrapolations of situations which may not come about out of context as if "birthers" were advocating a military coup is disingenious at best, and leaves a foul trail of quotable allegations against this forum and its members, crafted by you.
My suggestions (back then) require a great deal of organization & commitment to peaceful civil disobedience (note: that's not a military coup) tactics. What I learned is that there's no stomach or will for it.
agreed
They might be too hot to handle!!
Heck, I would assume that FR is on that list too!
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