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17 More States Planning Arizona "Illegal" Crackdown
World Net Daily ^ | May 21,2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/22/2010 1:03:52 PM PDT by Freedom Frayed

In what is developing into a standoff between states and the federal government that could be bigger than gun control or even health care, 17 states have launched versions of Arizona's immigration law, even as federal officials say they may not bother to process illegal aliens caught by the states.

William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, which has been trying to get officials to address the open southern border for years, warned the consequences could be dire.

"Over the last couple days, Obama and the chief of ICE have refused to honor their oaths of office," he said. "Their constitutional requirement is to enforce existing laws. "They've told the American public to go eat cake," he said. His organization is assembling the list of state efforts to emulate the Arizona law, which makes it illegal under state as well as federal law to be in the state without documentation.

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To: FlingWingFlyer; Semper911

My grandson was born at Davis-Monthan AFB, and is currently serving in the “theater of war.”

AZ is my second home and LOTS of my relatives live there, still. I’m behind you 100%!

I’m doing what I can, in my own small way, to spread the news that AZ is AWESOME! Wish I had some ammo for you!!

(Is Arpaio going to run for Gov? Awesome man, that!)


41 posted on 05/22/2010 2:39:18 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Michael.SF.

I counted 199 electoral votes for those 17 states plus 10 from AZ. This was using a map for 2012, 270 total votes.


42 posted on 05/22/2010 2:41:44 PM PDT by Umanbean
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To: Prole
"The democrats are the anti-American and un-Constituional assholes!"

They have proven time and again since the mid-1850s that it is their intention to destroy the country, even if it takes aligning themselves with our enemies to do so.

43 posted on 05/22/2010 2:42:53 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Yeah but our governor will never let Texas do something similar. Sad, I have to vote for the guy because his opponent is such a twerp.


This article is somewhat misleading about Texas at this stage of the process. There are a couple of state legislators that have indicated that they will file bills when the legislature meets in Jan. 2011. We need to hold the state house this coming election to keep the dems from gaining control of it. Currently the gop has a 77-73 margin but has been losing ground each election. The senate is safe at this time. Also we need to keep control of both houses as we have redistricting coming up and for sure we don’t need the dems in control. Let them run to NM and OK like that did last time.


44 posted on 05/22/2010 2:47:25 PM PDT by deport
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To: Monkey Face

Joe does that governor thing every time the job comes up. He’s a lawman. He just likes to stir the pot about running for governor. Especially when he can get the liberals all riled up. His two favorite hobbies are being a lawman and enforcing the laws. The second is driving the commie libs crazy. The guy is something else. If the left wants to read a “compelling life story”, they need to read his book, “America’s Toughest Sheriff”. Joe has been “around the block” a number of times. He’s had more people after his head than “Jeremiah Johnson”. Many of his escapades are hilarious. Especially going after the drug guys in Turkey.


45 posted on 05/22/2010 2:55:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Kiss my AZ!!!)
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To: conservativesister

Del. McDonough introduced it. I was certaintly surprised by this. I guess he’s a little worried about November.

Maryland: Governor O’Malley Signs Self-Defense Reform Bill! (Castle Doctrine!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2518345/posts


46 posted on 05/22/2010 3:01:19 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Freedom Frayed
New York City: I recently heard a caller on one of those radio talk shows say something like this about New York City: Police routinely stop people on the street and ask for identification.

Is that true? Just trying to get the facts straight. Thanks. mirse

47 posted on 05/22/2010 3:04:10 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I would trust Joe in whatever job he wanted to do, and back him in whatever “frivolity” he chose to inflict upon the liberals.

He’s a man’s man, but he also appeals to those of us who aren’t quite so masculine. ;o]

If I have to, I’ll come back to AZ long enough to be eligible to vote him into any office he aspires to!! LOL!

I’ll have to look for his book. I’m sure I will enjoy it immensely!


48 posted on 05/22/2010 3:22:40 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: navyblue
I'm not the original poster either but is this what you are referring to:

Guess which state has this law. Hint; It isn’t Arizona (a) Every law enforcement agency in (State Name) shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of {State Name} and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited. Give up? This is section 834 of the code of CALIFORNIA http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/834b.html

49 posted on 05/22/2010 3:31:48 PM PDT by oldteen
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To: oldteen

OOPs...should have given you some paragraphs...sorry.


50 posted on 05/22/2010 3:32:54 PM PDT by oldteen
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To: Umanbean
Thanks. Depending on how many states actually pass such laws that could serve as an indicator just how deep of a problem the Dems will have in November and in 2012.
51 posted on 05/22/2010 3:45:45 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: john mirse
New York City: Police routinely stop people on the street and ask for identification.

That caller needs to get off drugs, or is just making it up. They tow cars a lot (not really part of the regular NYPD), and frankly are real heroes going after violent criminals in the bad parts of town. But stopping on the street for ID? Someone "misspoke."

52 posted on 05/22/2010 3:56:54 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Freedom Frayed

Questions on Calderon

Why is it our fault that his people shoot each other to death?

Why is it our fault that he cannot find work for millions of his citizens?

Why is it our fault that he resides over a medieval serfdom that diminishes the lives of millions and forces him to illegally instruct them to enter our country, so that his country can receive foreign dollars and his trespassing citizens can enjoy American health and education benefits.

Why is it that we have to pay for the education of illegals when our own citizenry are not being adequately educated?

Why is it the we have black teenage unemployment in the 30% range and yet we have to depend on illegal aliens to fill construction, gardening, restaurant, warehouse and every other unskilled labor requirement? Why doesn’t anyone mention this - that two problems should be solved simultaneously?

Why is it after one hundred years, since the inception of the word “wetback” which entered the written lexicon in 1920, that hordes of unskilled, illiterate Mexicans continue to illegally enter the United States, through recession and through depression, through boom and bust, generation upon generation and no one, virtually no one asks, why is Mexico so wrong and America so right? What is it that America does so exceptionally well that the Mexicans cannot seem to emulate? Have they no resources like oil and gas? Have they no verdant fields upon which to grow, have they no thousands of miles of coastline, have they enough labor to accomplish anything, have they no ability to teach people, have they no law upon which to build a nation? Why is it that they continually fail, that everything they touch turns to waste? Why is it that their propagandists claim the American southwest was stolen from them and no American makes the obvious response - ‘well if you did have it, it would only be an extension of the human destroying, poverty inducing serfdom that you live in, so thank God America had it - where else could you run to? Cuba?


53 posted on 05/22/2010 4:13:54 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Freedom Frayed

If this continues to snowball, it’s going to be heap big medicine come November. Just how many states is Obama willing to declare war on? Just how many Americans is he prepared to thumb his nose at? Just how many laws is he willing to refuse to enforce?


54 posted on 05/22/2010 4:25:23 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

This is really great. States standing up to an oppressive federal government against health care mandates, firearm sales restrictions and now illegal immigration. This will surely nationalize the November elections at the state and federal levels. The theme will obviously be a federal government gone rogue and out of bounds.
The American people are tired of being asked to pay more in taxes, while illegals can freely ignore the law.
Second class citizens, yes that would be the US native born and naturalized Americans forced to comply with mandates and laws. No more!


55 posted on 05/22/2010 4:40:26 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: oldteen; navyblue
Thanks, you just answered my post [54] here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2518939/posts?q=1&;page=51

56 posted on 05/22/2010 4:44:32 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

You’re welcome. Happy to be of some help. As a Californian I am livid that this state does not follow/enforce its own laws!


57 posted on 05/22/2010 5:12:31 PM PDT by oldteen
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To: oldteen

We won’t sweat the paragraphs. Thanks a bunch. California Penal Code, section 834. Fantastic! Yes, this is exactly the post of which I was thinking. I’m no lawyer, but I’d guess that anyone that violates the Penal Code is a criminal. Small wonder this thing is not being talked about. This thing needs to br brought into the light.


58 posted on 05/22/2010 5:52:09 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: navyblue; oldteen
STATE OF CALIFORNIA

PENAL CODE
SECTION 833-851.90

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=833-851.90

834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.
(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

59 posted on 05/22/2010 5:59:40 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
Everyone note what it says in the first paragraph. When referring to law enforcement officers in the State of California it says they Shall, not may do these things. Is it just me or does thing already say that California can do the same as Arizona?
60 posted on 05/22/2010 6:09:30 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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