Posted on 06/09/2010 2:46:44 PM PDT by dennisw
Edited on 06/09/2010 2:58:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Something tells me Mr. Buzbee has only the truth in mind here.
BP wants to use "brown mud". EPA wants them to stop.
"brown mud" is the safe way to work. Not using it is the unsafe way to work.
this is a new rig? How old is this? And who approved it
The environmentalists and EPA have used the courts to force BP to use unsafe methods.
Fortunately, I never worked in an industry where so much was at stake because the corner cutting oblivious to risk managers I’ve been around would have created a calamity.
You say he did nothing but all the noise he has made,the criminal investigation has driven BP stock down a good portion of the 90 billion they lost in market cap.
Loss of confidence,not knowing what Bambi will do is putting the company in a precarious position. If they have to file chapter it will be in part Bambi’s fault.
Believe me he’s done plenty,none of it good.
I’d love to see the phone records of the guy that was yelling into the phone on the night in question. I’m sure some lawyers already have them.
I’ve read this as well. The issue with the mud is being heavier its more resistant to the pressure from beneath. The water wasn’t heavy enough and this disaster is the result.
Sometimes I'll but a Rolling Stone magazine just to see what the enemy thinks.
Your comparison of Mother Jones to Pravda is dead on target. Pisses me off when propaganda from an ambulance chaser, printed in a leftist rag, is used on this forum to propagate opinion.
I have said it till I'm blue in the face on many of these BP-Spill threads, the loss of life is regrettable in the extreme. The spill itself is horrible, although IMHO the end result will be somewhat akin to the Exxon-Valdez predictions of total environmental disaster. Bad, but nowhere near the catastrophic event now being promulgated everywhere.
Most probably mistakes were made and a short cut or two taken that hindsight (20/20) tells us should not have been taken. My sincerest hope in all of this, is that FReepers not add fuel to a RAT Crisis which will be used for unimaginably dire consequences.
The "brown mud" thing has been used against BP (in particular) everywhere else. If I were them and they face some lawsuits here and there I'd be marching all the EPA "brown mud" geeks and the environmentalists into court to tell about "brown mud".
No doubt that would be startlingly interesting.
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Yeah I think you are right but there are plenty of slicksters who have dodged deposition and testimony. Such as BPs main man on the rig, Robert Kaluza, who allegedly got into an argument with Transocean an over=rode and ordered them to do XYZ in the last days.
“BP has a reputation as a company that takes dangerous shortcuts.”
?? I dunno?? There was a guy who called in to one of the talk radio shows, I forget which one, the other day who said he had worked on drilling rigs all his life and had worked for many of the different companies. HE said that BP was BY FAR the most safety conscious. Then I read somewhere that BP had a huge number of infractions that resulted in fines. Honestly, the stories I’ve heard are from one end of the spectrum to the other. I don’t know what to believe at this point.
I just know obamao WANTS us all to HATE BP and oil exploration in general. I have a tendency to immediately flinch and go the opposite direction. It’s psychological warfare.
There’s no question they will be in court and i’m sure they will bring it up in court.
Okay we agree. Now the next part. Picture a really wimpy looking guy waving a microphone around trying to look mad and scary but unable to pull it off because in truth he has arm that a woman would be proud of. He says.”Oh no. Oh no. You’re not about to be pointing fingers. No we won’t have it. We want out money and we want it now.”
Agree.
There’s always pressure. There is even pressure to get it done early. There’s all kinds of pressure. It’s the nature of the job and people who can’t take it have no business being involved.
Before this is all over I think we’ll find that inexperienced people were at high levels making decisions they were not qualified to make. Some idiot somewhere thought it was “worth the risk” because they were going through a million dollars a day.
I’ve seen several companies try to take on a “silicon valley” type mentality by recruiting and promoting people who feel no boundaries. The problem is that act is no good in the face of reality.
Hopefully some heavy industries will learn from this. The cynic in me thinks this not.
“”But I think it’s true. BP has a reputation as a company that takes dangerous shortcuts. And I think that’s exactly what they did. Some jackass from HQ told them, according to another account, “Do it my way, or else.” “”
I have to agree with some of the responses. We all take “short cuts” on the job site. Good people are able to think through them in a clear manner and figure out if they are okay. Sometimes the hardest thing to say is “I don’t know.” People who don’t know the implications and/or don’t have the character to go through that thought process should not be calling the shots.
Those nightmares cost a lot more money than your typical safety violation ~
I think their managers are simply tuned to the idea to avoid conflict over "brown mud" at all costs. That leads them to make stupid decisions.
You’re right. The owner has the final call on what they will and what they won’t pay for. However you can always say “no”. There are worse things than being kicked off the job site.
I question tha validity of this statement.
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