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ABOLISH PUBLIC EDUCATION?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 06/23/10 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 06/23/2010 6:27:30 AM PDT by shortstop

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One only has to watch Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" to see the state of our public education system these days. Also, Lonsberry never mentions the Mogadishu atmosphere in many public schools in the urban areas. Yep, that's really conducive for learning.
1 posted on 06/23/2010 6:27:31 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

He doesn’t even address the question of whether child-rearing is a legitimate or desirable function for the state to assume. Government education is the template for government’s takeover of the support of the elderly, of medical care, of businesses ... usurping the functions free citizens once accomplished for themselves.


2 posted on 06/23/2010 6:30:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Anoreth, alma de Espana y diosa guerrera. Cuidados!)
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We conservatives are overwhelmingly the product of public education

No. We are the product of good parenting.

3 posted on 06/23/2010 6:30:47 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: shortstop
Now days, kids do not learn because they went to school but they learn in SPITE of going to school.

Parents MUST intervene at all levels, remain watchful and de-program a great deal

4 posted on 06/23/2010 6:31:28 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: shortstop

I am a product of public schooling - thank GOD I rose above it. It did not serve me well. The decline started 40 years ago, it is not going to get better until we elect politicians that have the courage to tear it down and rebuild it.


5 posted on 06/23/2010 6:31:34 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: shortstop

As a Catholic schools parent, I can only say, “sounds like a plan.”


6 posted on 06/23/2010 6:32:34 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: libh8er

I propose that “public education” be publicly funded, and nothing beyond that - make it Constitutionally illegal for the government to control the education or to tie any strings to the funding.

Publicly funded, parent controlled.


7 posted on 06/23/2010 6:32:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: shortstop

Why not have public supermarkets?
We would all do better eating government food, right?


8 posted on 06/23/2010 6:33:02 AM PDT by devere
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To: shortstop

“So here’s the truth. No, conservatives don’t want to abolish public education. We want to improve it and make it more accountable to local taxpayers, parents and values.”

And since that accountability is not coming in any of our lifetimes, abolishing the bulk of government schooling makes a good deal of sense. How much time, money, and resources do you pour down a rathole before you decide it just isn’t working as you’d hoped?

And what about the legacy of welfare dependency that Aid To Families with Dependent Parents causes?

I’ll kindly invite this gentleman to speak for himself.


9 posted on 06/23/2010 6:34:15 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (How many children are enough? One more....)
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To: shortstop

Abolish public schools? Heck yeah.


10 posted on 06/23/2010 6:34:40 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: SMARTY

Two stupid things about “de-programming” your kids:

One, they have thousands of “seat hours” in front of teachers with an agenda to “program” into them, and you’re gonna take a couple of hours each night to counter this?

If you’re willing to commit a “couple of hours” a day to de-program them, why not spend one more hour a day and homeschool them?


11 posted on 06/23/2010 6:35:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: shortstop; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; Gilbo_3; ..

GWB sold us out on public education when he cut a deal with Ted Kennedy to remove private school vouchers from the socialist No Child Left Behind federal bill, basically to get the NEA behind it. Bush then used the success to get re-elected. Don’t forget the single Mom tax credit.

Hell, we cant even get elected republicans to stop federalizing public schools let alone get rid of them (it should be a local issue anyway.)


12 posted on 06/23/2010 6:35:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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Regain local control, eliminate the department of education and you'll fix 90% of what's wrong with public education.

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.

James Madison
13 posted on 06/23/2010 6:35:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: shortstop
The only way 'public' schools are going to work is if the govt contracts out education to private schools- just like it contracts out construction and road building. Roads built by the govt would not be drivable.
14 posted on 06/23/2010 6:36:37 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: devere

This is a fundamental point that eludes thoughtless conservatives such as Lonsberry. He likes that middle-class welfare entitlement. The thought that the left is going to give up its cultural stronghold and $1 trillion/year cashflow that it provides is mind numbingly stupid.


15 posted on 06/23/2010 6:36:51 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: shortstop
No, conservatives don’t want to abolish public education.

Lonsberry is an idiot. Millions of conservatives want to abolish 'public' education. I'm one of them. Apparently Lonsberry doesn't even have a passing familiarity with the Constitution.

16 posted on 06/23/2010 6:38:01 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: shortstop
We conservatives...

Hmmm, I must have missed the ceremony where ole Bob was crowned "Speaker for all Conservatives".

Or maybe he has a frog in his pocket when he says "we".

17 posted on 06/23/2010 6:38:35 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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Two quotes sums up public education:

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.
– Vladimir Lenin

Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.
– Joseph Stalin


18 posted on 06/23/2010 6:38:45 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Conservatives are producers. Liberals are parasites)
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To: libh8er
We conservatives are overwhelmingly the product of public education No. We are the product of good parenting.

Yep, you got that right.

19 posted on 06/23/2010 6:39:36 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: shortstop
Public Education is unreformable in less than 2 generations and that would take a dictatorial power imbued with an intense Constitutionalist and generally Conservative mindset- a contradiction in terms. ALL of the institutions are hopelessly corrupted from the teachers' colleges up and down.

Abolish public education!The total capture of the public education and most large private colleges by the Left is what makes the slide to totalitarian rule inevitable. The knowledge base does not exist in the general population to fight it. There is no sense and knowledge of history thus no sense of what will or will not work or what the consequences of any action or policy must be. People accept what they are told by power seekers because they don't have the tools to evaluate claims. With two generations or total reform to proper American values it could be achieved but there is not the base of knowledge and ability remaining to carry out the reform.

20 posted on 06/23/2010 6:39:44 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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