Posted on 07/04/2010 11:26:09 AM PDT by Tigen
America currently stands in a very dangerous position, said renowned pastor and author Dr. Charles Stanley. Today more than ever, the country is turning away from God and moving closer toward socialism, he warned. And the consequences will be grave.
"We know the truth, we know the principles of God. In spite of all that, we find ourselves as a nation violating the laws of God, heading in a direction that is going to be disastrous for us, for our children and the generations that are to come unless there is a change," he said.
Speaking to thousands at First Baptist Church of Atlanta and to a live Web audience on Friday, Stanley delivered a sobering 4th of July message about a dangerous spiritual tide that is engulfing the country and the crucial need for prayer.
"There is a tide that has touched the shores of our land and reached the heart of our nation," he said against the backdrop of the U.S. flag. "It is a tide that is bringing with it ideas and philosophies, actions and attitudes that will ultimately destroy the way of life that you and I have."
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Actually, when Christ returns, all those surrounding Israel, to destroy them, are killed by the sword of His mouth. Vaporizing is not far from what happens to them. They melt. Not nice really, but He is quite angry. Wrath of God. Not a pretty sight.
Revelation 19
Zechariah 14
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.
I’ve read the book...I know who wins.
(I’m just very selfish and human and want to see it “now”)
I wholeheartedly agree that we need spiritual revival. I pray for it daily and, as a family, (personally) we are doing all that we can.
And...I must agree with you, that even if every government school in this nation were closed tomorrow, and every child attended private school, sadly, I believe most parents would choose a secular ( godless) private school for their child.
The point I have been trying to convey in these posts is that government schools can not be reformed. We must move to a system of private schooling.
Our modern system of government schools ( the first opening in the mid-1800s) are socialism. Merely by attending children learn to be comfortable with socialism.
And...Because government schools serve the entire community, even at their best, the Christianity had to be generic enough to accommodate the religious beliefs of parents who had membership in varied denominations. All government schools in this nation are today completely godless. This can't be reformed.
The following is what Dr. Charles Stanley has to say about sending children into the government schools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsYbVBvpOK8
I like Pastor Stanley a great deal, and he makes some very good points.
But, when I see that the more conservative gubernatorial candidate...in Oregon...is tied with, or leading, the liberal candidate in the polls...I have to think that we, as a country, are turning back to the founding principles in the last year, at least.
He is correct that we’ve been heading towards socialism, but it seems to me that we’ve done an about face so fast that it’s caused whiplash with the public at large.
You have no idea how many people are carrying pocket Constitutions out here! What a breath of fresh air!
I’m still praying for this country, though...and I will continue to do so.
ya never miss the water till the well runs dry.
Amen!
Finally a preacher is condemning what’s happening in this country. But as far as I’m concerned he watered it down a bit. He should have named names.
The really sad thing about this is the comments section under the article. Those comments convince me Dr. Stanley’s message is going mostly unheard. Bottom line is he’s preaching to the choir and about half the choir ain’t listening.
I was a leader in the jr high ministry at my old church for many years, and had a number of homeschooled kids. These guys for the most part were just as/or even smarter. But even beyond that, they were more mature, better behaved, more confident, and in general leaders.
What you have with a homeschooled kid is a parent(s) who has a vested interest in making sure the child learns, whereas a teacher, no matter how good, and how well intentioned, at some point losses interest or doesn't care for a specific child. Compound that with 25-30 other kids in a class room.
Next comes the socialism part. We give public AND (some) private schools are kids, and schools teach"civic pride" or whatever you want to call it. They can't discipline behavior, so they try to mold behavior. But its a behavior molding for society. You know we all need to be good citizens or good neighbors or whatnot. And on the very surface thats fine, but beyond that is the roots of socialism. Where everyone is good neighbor or citizen...for the good of the state.
As opposed to discipline, which drives out folly and corrects bad behavior, for the benefit of the child, that the child may grow up with a proper understanding of right and wrong. Properly applied and taught, that child, when an adult, will understand that discipline when applied from God, in their life.
The difference between civic molding and discipline, is that civic molding is for the sake of the community or state, whereas discipline is for the sake of the child.
Once the child, through discipline, is raised in God, the NATURAL outcome is that they are a good neighbor, friend, brother/sister, husband/wife.
My guys were generally more confident. Why??? Heck, look at the environmental difference.
School: a group of kids, some not well behaved, closed up in a room together, with a virtually powerless teacher attacking each other over clothes, hair, shape, size, financial status, what have you.
Home: For the most part a loving environment with siblings, that if not loving gets quashed real quick.
School: The best teacher only has so much love and time for each student, and SELDOM a personal interest. So students push, shove, and fight for that attention...or they do nothing at all, and quietly disappear in the corner.
Home: Thats a parents child, who they love. There is no need to fight for attention and love, they already get it...ALL DAY LONG...even if they don't realize it.
Homeschooled kids come from the most part, a continually positive atmosphere, as compared to a classroom environment, that in itself will develope a child into a more confident person.
I could go on and on about what I see as the benefits of homeschooling, but I'll swerve a little here, and do a little bragging on a buddy of mine...who homeschools.
My buddy and his wife now have 8 kids. The most recent after almost 5 years from the next. Which is long for them, as all the others were 1 to 1-1/2 years apart. SO until recently they were raising 7 kids, and homeschooling. I know nothing of their "academic" ability, though they all seem normally smart. What I do know is their personalities and character. Its something to go into a restaurant with them, and have waitresses make a big deal about how well behaved they are. To have other customers stop by and comment on them. To have managers buy dessert, because the kids are well behaved.
In church, when my buddy lived around here, and went to what would be considered a traditional church, older folks, those who have raised their kids, and now have grandkids near or into adulthood, make comments calling my buddy Super Dad. Instead of shooing his kids off to "Childrens" church, his kids sit in church. And listen to an adult message (I could do a long post on that alone). Mom sits on one end, dad at the other. And those kids are well behaved. But like ANY child, figity happens, or a little too much or too loud whispering. All it takes is just a SLIGHT look from mom or dad, and the issue is reeled in. Maybe its just a hand, gently and lovingly placed on the child next to thems leg. Sometimes mom or dad leans forward just a little and makes eye contact. Boom...problem solved.
Now, like I said earlier, I was a leader for many years with jr high kids. I know kids. Heck, most people say I am still one myself. You go to my buddies house, and the one thing there is plenty of, is happy laughter. with 8 kids, no matter how quiet, there always seems to be sound in that house. Good sound. Sound that belongs in a house with 8 kids. The point I'm trying to make is, these kids are VERY normal. Home is a wonderful place for them. It is because of the security of home life, and the discipline at home, that allows these kids to be so well behaved everywhere else.
I remember one time, with their 2nd or 3rd child, the mom was holding the ? months old baby, while we all sat and talked (the other kids were off playing or napping. The baby curiously grabbed at moms hair or neck chains and started to pull. Mom gently flicked the hand with a finger until the baby stopped. When the baby tried it again, same thing. They taught me a lesson that day, as well as the baby. They started discipline early. It wasn't harsh, it was just something to grab the babys attention, and stop a behavior. They were starting at a very young age that molding and guiding, not waiting for later, when it becomes harder.
My buddy controls his kids environment and what they are taught. He's not allowing for someone else to teach them something he might not believe in. He understands that a bad apple can spoil the bunch, so he closely monitors their freindships. But those friendships are mostly other kids from church, whose families live and teach the same values.
This was the character and the way things were done with our founding fathers.
Dr Stanley wants as many people as possible to pray for the next 140 days. Maybe it will start with a few thousand people, agreeing with Stanley, and praying. Maybe you and I can encourage others to join in. Maybe somewhere in there there might be a few 10's of thousands praying. Maybe 100,s of thousand. Maybe millions.
Don't limit God in the moving of the hearts of men. Either politicians, or potential prayer warriors.
What has happened in this country didn't catch God by surprise. He knew it all along. I would say at the least, allowed those in power to come to power, if he didn't orchestrate things himself.
At this rate, we will see it, whether from above or at eye-level. :) 2013 - 40th anniversary of Roe.
Good Christians differ here on earth about the exact meaning of this. I’m of the following that St. Paul is talking about the creation of a new tree out of both Jew and Gentile, which is called the Christian church. “We’ll all understand it better bye and bye.”
Another hitch in a direct carry over is that America as a whole was never officially Christian like Israel being officially Jewish, although for years many individual states endorsed particular Christian denominations (with ugly, cruel, un-Christian results sometimes). So it’s quite possible for Christians in America to fast and pray their hearts out and they will only end up getting personally blessed with the country still going to hell in a handcart. This is a necessary warning, I believe, so that Christians do not hitch their wagons to the wrong star, so to speak.
It ALL depends on Gods plans.
I believe we are in the days leading to the end times. That we are at the verge of the tribulation period.
My prayers are that God would cause a revival in this nation and restore us to where we once were. But, when I look at Bible prophecy, I don't see a nation like the US in it. It doesn't mean we aren't there, but I'm not sure the nation of Ronald Reagan would stand by while Israel is attacked, and yet the Bible tells us nobody comes to Israels aid, and that God alone protects her.
If Gods plans are to humble this nation, so be it. I'll still pray. Maybe prayer will move Gods hand to move the hearts of many men towards him. Drawing unbelievers to him and believers closer. May the difference between believers and unbelievers in this nation be so great, that we expose the folly of unbelievers for what they are.
Thanks for the link.
Enjoy.
I hope things are going well.
Enjoy.
I hope things are going well.
Bttt.
Glenn Beck played the audio of this on his radio show today.
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