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Climatologist Warns Of Second Dust Bowl In Growing Southwest Desert
The Business Insider ^ | 8-13-2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 08/13/2010 11:45:20 AM PDT by blam

Climatologist Warns Of Second Dust Bowl In Growing Southwest Desert

Gus Lubin
Aug. 13, 2010, 11:43 AM

A climatologist at Columbia University says the Southwest looks forward to "permanent drought" conditions on par with the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.

Arizona was already an arid and hot, but here's how Professor Richard Seager says it will get worse.

Grist:

A critical player in this drying cycle is the planetary-scale circulation system known as the Hadley cell... The Hadley cell is growing. Its expansion above a larger swath of the American Southwest, along with a shifting of the jet stream and many storms northward, is a worrisome trend, says Seager. It means there is little chance that the Southwest can avoid becoming drier in the coming decades. In fact, when Seager's team analyzed some 49 computer projections of the region's likely future climate, using 19 major climate models, all but three scenarios agreed: drought ahead.

Will a growing desert cut away property values in the Southwest? Maybe not, but it will increase air conditioning costs and devastate whatever agriculture there is.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; depression; doommonger; dustbowl; recession
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1 posted on 08/13/2010 11:45:24 AM PDT by blam
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We had one during the last psycho progressive president why not one now...it completely fits!!!


2 posted on 08/13/2010 11:46:09 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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America faces a growing threat from alarmists.


3 posted on 08/13/2010 11:51:04 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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The Hadley Cell does appear to be growing. But, using climate models to make predictions is not just bad science, it shows a complete lack of understanding of the capabilities and limitations of models and simulations.


4 posted on 08/13/2010 11:52:40 AM PDT by centurion316
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Climatologists are not good historians. The Dust Bowl of the 30s occurred as a result of several factors. Drought, yes, but primarily as a result of the farming practices adopted in the region when it was settled. The farming methods in use destroyed all of the original topsoil. Enter a drought and high winds, and everything blows away. That is hardly the case in the Southwest Desert. While there is some agriculture, the vast majority of the region is still in its natural state.


5 posted on 08/13/2010 11:52:42 AM PDT by La Lydia
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... and just in time for the Second Great Depression!


6 posted on 08/13/2010 11:53:50 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Will someone please post the “Aw geez, not this s*it again picture. It is required for this thread.


7 posted on 08/13/2010 11:54:01 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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That was my thought. What’s a depression without a dust bowl?

It’s like a football game without a halftime show, or a baseball game without a 7th inning stretch.


8 posted on 08/13/2010 11:54:12 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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Permanent Drought in the Desert?

Is The Onion out there acquiring news sites again?


9 posted on 08/13/2010 11:54:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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The ‘climatologist’ have been wrong about everything so far - I have to assume this guy’s wrong about this too...


10 posted on 08/13/2010 11:55:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (Asked for ZIP? Give 82224 - Lost Springs,Wy - most sparsely populated in country. Freeper:SamAdams)
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And a thousand years ago it was greener than it is today.

Also, someone might want to point out that the dust bowl was only partially caused by weather. It had a lot to do with overfarming with wheat only, poor soil conservation methods, and a lack of windbreaks.


11 posted on 08/13/2010 11:55:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Not the original, but still good.


12 posted on 08/13/2010 11:57:02 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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**** The Hadley cell is growing. Its expansion above a larger swath of the American Southwest,****

Nothing new. A drought lasting over twenty five years caused a migration out of Chaco Canyon, Mesa Verde areas long before the evil WHITE MAN invented coal fired power plants and gas powered SUVs.


13 posted on 08/13/2010 11:57:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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Is Algore one of his advisers??

:-)

This stuff is just getting old!!


14 posted on 08/13/2010 12:04:55 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
What A Quoting Red Foreman “ Dumb Ass”’

We had so much rain last winter several days you could drive down to town because there was 1-2 feet of water running over the two roads into town.

15 posted on 08/13/2010 12:06:31 PM PDT by troy McClure
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Living intthe arid SW you know that drought is normal. My husband, literally, did not see rain until he was 5 years old, a few sprinkles but not rain. I do remember my first snow that year too.

In the 30s it was awful from what I hear from the old folks, better in the 40s, horrible in the 50s...it goes on and on sometimes it rains, sometimes it doesn’t but you learn to live with it. There are cycles and we know a lot more about drought than we did in the 30s and there aren’t as many cattle on the range either.


16 posted on 08/13/2010 12:09:55 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"Nothing new. A drought lasting over twenty five years caused a migration out of Chaco Canyon, Mesa Verde areas long before the evil WHITE MAN invented coal fired power plants and gas powered SUVs."

That's exactly correct, then the Japanese came.

The Zuni Enigma

17 posted on 08/13/2010 12:11:02 PM PDT by blam
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There was a dust bowl before “global warming”?


18 posted on 08/13/2010 12:11:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Chump Obama promised "Change" and we got chump change.)
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If it is permanent, then wouldn’t it be worse this time?

If it was permanent last time, why are we saying it is happening again?

Why use the work permanent at all since the climate is constantly changing?

OH NO!!! ANOTHER CRISIS!!!


19 posted on 08/13/2010 12:12:07 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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I’ve got a theory about the Great Big Dust Bowl, but I don’t know whether the theory holds any water but here it is. The theory is based on one thing leading to another. The first thing that happen was there was a trade embargo passed by either Hoover or Roosevelt,(I don’t know my total history of that time period) but anyway that leads to farmers getting rid of most of their farm animals that didn’t have any value anymore and went ahead and put their fields to grain which had more value, instead of rotating them with the farm animals. With that there was no restoration of the land, Also with the loss of the animals they lost their natural fertilizer they were using for their crops, so that added to the problem, I’m sure this isn’t the total reason for the big dust bowl but my gut feeling it was a major player in the lead up to the Big Dust Bowl. What do you all think of this theory.


20 posted on 08/13/2010 12:14:48 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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