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Will the Real John McCain Please Stand Up?
Mother Jones ^ | Aug.23, 2010 | Suzy Khimm

Posted on 08/23/2010 12:24:45 PM PDT by AuntB

A Senator’s journey from bipartisan maverick to right-wing ideologue—one flip-flop at a time.

In theory, John McCain's right-wing madness could come to an end on Tuesday, when he is expected to prevail over former Rep. JD Hayworth in Arizona’s Senate primary. Faced with a stiff conservative challenge, McCain has spent this election cycle defying many of his long-held moderate positions.

In fact, his transformation from aisle-crossing, party-bucking maverick (see this 1998 Mother Jones interview) to cookie-cutter conservative has been years in the making. During his 2008 presidential bid, he began to lurch rightward on a litany of issues in his play for the GOP's conservative base. His choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate was the final blow for some of his truest believers, who saw it as political pandering at its worst. But the failed White House run was just the beginning of McCain’s transformation into an ideologue. Behold some recent flip-flops:

Immigration: Back in 2006, McCain was among the primary sponsors of a bipartisan reform bill at the heart of Bush's immigration push, and worked closely with Ted Kennedy on the issue. The bill included a path for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship if they paid a fine. Hayworth latched onto the bill early in the current primary fight, blasting his rival for supporting "amnesty," whereupon McCain denied that he had ever supported legalization and ratcheted up his anti-immigration rhetoric. He proceeded to push aggressively for border security, speak in favor of Arizona's harsh new immigration law, and even support hearings contesting the 14th Amendment provision that ensures American citizenship as a birthright.

Gun Control: McCain was once a vocal advocate for stricter gun-control laws. As Think Progress points out, he even appeared in ads for the nonprofit Americans for Gun Safety urging states to close the gun-show loophole that lets people buy firearms without a background check. But McCain made a dramatic reversal this past spring. He introduced a bill that would force the District of Columbia to repeal its gun-registration laws and allow residents to transports firearms within the district.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell: Four years ago, former war hero McCain seemed willing to consider changing the military's ban on gay service members. "The day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, ‘Senator, we ought to change the policy,' then I think we ought to consider seriously changing it," he said. But in February 2010, when Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs Chair Mike Mullen testified that they supported Obama's desire to repeal DADT, McCain rebuffed them. "At this moment of immense hardship for our armed services, we should not be seeking to overturn the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy," he said after the testimony.

Climate Change: Once a key supporter of cap-and-trade legislation—he co-sponsored a 2003 bill and declared during his 2008 campaign that the country urgently needed to address global warming—McCain now calls it "cap-and-tax," and has tried to claim that he never supported the policy to begin with.

McCain could soften his newfound positions prior to November. But since he’s safely ahead of all of his Democratic challengers, there’s little incentive for him to change up now. Moreover, his flip-flopping mirrors his party’s rightward creep: For example, Sen. Lindsey Graham—whom many have compared to the old John McCain—has similarly abandoned efforts to work with Democrats on climate change and immigration.

If the GOP expands its congressional ranks significantly this November, it could bring a degree of ideological diversity back into the party if moderates like Mike Castle, Charlie Crist, and Mark Kirk are elected to the Senate. But given the beating he’s received from the conservative base since stepping into the national spotlight, it's unclear whether the old McCain will ever come back.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; elections; flipflopper; hayworth; jdhayworth; mcamnesty; mccain; mcjerk; mcliar; mcmaverick; mcnasty; mcqueeg; mcrino; mecain; senate
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Even the libs notice the duplicity of good ol' McCain! Wake up Arizona!

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There's is a good article today outlining the too close relationship between McCain and lobbyists. The author is a liberal who doesn't like conservatives like Hayworth, but he makes the point about Mccain and his lobbyist friends like Rick Davis that I talked about in my article, Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2440173/posts

John McCain Still Pallin' Around With Lobbyists

Aug. 21, 2010

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/john-mccain-still-pallin_b_689909.html

John McCain’s Transformation From Maverick To Erratic (slideshow!)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/18/john-mccains-transformati_n_685745.html

1 posted on 08/23/2010 12:24:47 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Actually, McCain was a conservative before he was a moderate before he was a conservative again.


2 posted on 08/23/2010 12:28:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

“Actually, McCain was a conservative before he was a moderate before he was a conservative again.”

I bet he doesn’t change his under ware as often as he changes his mind.


3 posted on 08/23/2010 12:30:51 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Even the libs notice the duplicity of good ol' McCain!
Wake up Arizona!

Oh, Aunt B, I really hope they will...

4 posted on 08/23/2010 12:32:13 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (I'm never fully dressed without a snark.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ping!


5 posted on 08/23/2010 12:34:27 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (I'm never fully dressed without a snark.)
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To: AuntB

6 posted on 08/23/2010 12:36:32 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: AuntB

This is just normal McCain behavior when he visits Arizona. He can get on talk radio and sound like he wrote the Constitution.


7 posted on 08/23/2010 12:38:17 PM PDT by donna (Is Ann Coulter still friends with David Brock?)
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To: AuntB
But the failed White House run was just the beginning of McCain’s transformation into an ideologue. Behold some recent flip-flops:

It's not all that complicated. McCain has just been pandering in the direction he thought would win him the most votes. No more a transformation than you have a transformation when a weather vane changes direction. When he's not pandering for votes, he's just following his quirky moods and looking for opportunities to undermine his own party.

McCain has no consistent political philosophy and enjoys being the center of attention> And the best way to be the center of attention is to poke his own party in the eye for the MSM.

8 posted on 08/23/2010 12:41:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: AuntB
"But the failed White House run was just the beginning of McCain’s transformation into an ideologue. "

I wonder if Suzy refers to those who never stray from the talking points of her Liberal religion as "ideologues".

9 posted on 08/23/2010 12:42:08 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: AuntB
Mother Jones and HuffPo? Really? You drag this crap into the site and expect to be taken seriously ever again? Or are you trying to take JD down?

Your activism on the side of Democrats is really disgusting.

10 posted on 08/23/2010 12:42:16 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: donna

“This is just normal McCain behavior when he visits Arizona. He can get on talk radio and sound like he wrote the Constitution.”

It’s really like the beaten wife syndrome...’I’m sorry’...’I’ll never hit you again’....blah, blah...

When are people going to stop believing his lies?? I’m afraid he’ll do a lot more damage before they wake up.


11 posted on 08/23/2010 12:44:20 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

12 posted on 08/23/2010 12:46:09 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: Deb; Clintonfatigued; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; PGalt; mkjessup; blackie; SwinneySwitch; ...

“Mother Jones and HuffPo? Really? You drag this crap into the site and expect to be taken seriously ever again? Or are you trying to take JD down?

Your activism on the side of Democrats is really disgusting.”

___________

Stuff it, Deb. All you’ve done for all the years on FR is BITCH and whine at CONSERVATIVES! Where’s your posts against the old fool McCAIN?
NO WHERE, that’s where! With republicans like you & McCain, we don’t need democrats!

Sometimes a grain of truth comes from the other side....something you wouldn’t recognize if it bit you in the ass.

And it’s the likes of you that make this MY LAST POST.
We’re tired of being dragged down with you! It’s all yours to continue to destroy as you always have with your rino pandering.

Happy now, you old hag?


13 posted on 08/23/2010 12:50:56 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Someone should start a pool - What will be McCain's first embrace of a Democrat agenda item, and how soon will it happen after he's reelected?
14 posted on 08/23/2010 12:51:48 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Deb

Aunt B? Siding with Democrats? In what parallel universe? What in the world does this post mean?


15 posted on 08/23/2010 12:57:41 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: AuntB
You'll have to wait until after November 2nd for the real John McKeating to return.
16 posted on 08/23/2010 1:02:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Deb
Your activism on the side of Democrats is really disgusting.

????? She posted a piece by MJ that, for once, happened to hit on something which FReepers tend to agree. What exactly is the problem here?

17 posted on 08/23/2010 1:04:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: AuntB

I will always respect and honor Sen. McCain’s military service. He endured terrible punishment at the hands of the North Vietnamese in the Hanoi Hilton before he came home.

But, as a senator, he has reached across the aisle so many times to side with the leftists, that he his besmirched his own service.

It’s time for AZ to retire McCain and let a REAL conservative represent this brave state. Sen. McCain is simply not up to the task.


18 posted on 08/23/2010 1:13:29 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: AuntB

The bottom line is that you cannot trust McCain? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Are the voters in Arizona that foolish?


19 posted on 08/23/2010 1:17:36 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: AuntB
Go, AuntB, chop the little trolls head right off.....lol
20 posted on 08/23/2010 1:21:15 PM PDT by marmar ((Although, I may look different then you....my blood still runs..RED, WHITE, & BLUE. RETIRED USAF))
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To: AuntB; Deb
AuntB is a valuable member of this site and has taken it on herself to keep us up to date on the latest news about the goings on at the border and beyond.

You are VERY misinformed, Deb.

21 posted on 08/23/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: AuntB; Deb; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”Even the libs notice the duplicity of good ol’ McCain! Wake up Arizona!

The libs are really upset that their favorite RINO McCain is flipping on all his real principles when they feel like they need him most, and just to make it though this primary election (note when Kerry and Obama does it they don't mind.)

Don't worry, it may take a year but the real McCain will be back, and all will be forgiven at MSNBC when he starts up again. They love the Republican RINO traitors to do their dirty work.

Actually McCain did a great job of flipping positions in 2008, a big part of why he lost (but obviously not the only reason.)

22 posted on 08/23/2010 1:24:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: AuntB

The local news is so bad people never hear what is actually happening. I guess that’s the plan, keep us confused so we can’t organize a resistance.


23 posted on 08/23/2010 1:24:47 PM PDT by donna (Is Ann Coulter still friends with David Brock?)
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To: Deb
Your activism on the side of Democrats is really disgusting.

You Lie!

24 posted on 08/23/2010 1:31:47 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; FromLori; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”Stuff it, Deb. All you’ve done for all the years on FR is BITCH and whine at CONSERVATIVES! Where’s your posts against the old fool McCAIN? NO WHERE, that’s where! With republicans like you & McCain, we don’t need democrats!Sometimes a grain of truth comes from the other side....something you wouldn’t recognize if it bit you in the ass.And it’s the likes of you that make this MY LAST POST.We’re tired of being dragged down with you! It’s all yours to continue to destroy as you always have with your rino pandering. Happy now, you old ..?

Thanks for the immigration posts AuntB. This one nailed McCain as the phony he is, actually it's understated because the liberals are mad he is not helping Obama now when democrats are going down. But McCain cant help Obama till after his re-election. And we will remember who helped McCain get re-elected when that happens.

25 posted on 08/23/2010 1:31:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs
“Actually McCain did a great job of flipping positions in 2008, a big part of why he lost (but obviously not the only reason.)”

The POS attacked a old American lady hard for asking about Obamas muslim roots MORE than he EVER did the Muslim cockroach himself,plus he was as animated as a rotting Corpse and had the same appeal.

26 posted on 08/23/2010 1:32:20 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

RE :”The POS attacked a old American lady hard for asking about Obamas muslim roots MORE than he EVER did the Muslim cockroach himself,plus he was as animated as a rotting Corpse and had the same appeal. “

That sounds like one thing he didnt flip on.


27 posted on 08/23/2010 1:41:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: La Lydia
Is there anyone who eats dinner that doesn't know what John McCain is about? Come on!

There's a group of people who spend all their time starting threads trashing Republicans for every AP misquote or bad vote and never have anything harsh to say about the Democrats who are just about to take this country to Hell.

I prefer to remember we are at war with a Godless, anti-American enemy and I refuse to go back and kill our wounded.

McCain is going to win this. I love JD, but he lost it. Its over. Can we please now move to defeating the Democrat who's running?

28 posted on 08/23/2010 1:45:21 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: ScottinVA
Is there a single thing we didn't know about McCain? Do we need to be lectured and enlightened by Mother Jones?

Is there, maybe, something intelligent to be said against the Democrat opponent?

29 posted on 08/23/2010 1:49:23 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: AuntB
McCain is what he is.

JD lost this one and its over. I will not post against McCain. I do not post against Republicans. I prefer to post against Democrats and ignore Republicans I think are weak or misinformed. I really see no purpose in trashing and undercutting the only group who do anything to save this country. I'd rather encourage the strong ones, than bash or demoralize the ones who are weak.

30 posted on 08/23/2010 1:58:53 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
AuntB just called you an 'old hag'.


hehehe

31 posted on 08/23/2010 2:12:40 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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Where’s your posts against the old fool McCAIN?

You couldn't add up the number of times Deb has slammed McCain over the years. Do your research and get back here and post an apology.

(Oops...sorry...I just read that you've just made YOUR LAST POST...and knowing you to be a woman of integrity, I and the entire board will take your word as absolute fact.)

DLTSDHYOTWO!

32 posted on 08/23/2010 2:17:12 PM PDT by Chunga (I Have Supported J.D. Since The Day He Announced)
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To: Deb
I will not post against McCain.

Once you wouldn't let him have pie.

33 posted on 08/23/2010 2:18:43 PM PDT by Chunga (I Have Supported J.D. Since The Day He Announced)
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To: Deb; AuntB; All

” JD lost this one and its over. I will not post against McCain. I do not post against Republicans “

Then

1) You have no character

2) You are NOT a conservative.

P.S. If you had ANY class, you would wait until the election results are over before you declare that Hayworth
lost.


34 posted on 08/23/2010 2:20:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson))
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To: Chunga

McCain absolutely gets no pie. That’s different.


35 posted on 08/23/2010 2:35:37 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

When is the election?


36 posted on 08/23/2010 2:37:00 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

The primary is tomorrow.


37 posted on 08/23/2010 2:46:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Regarding #1: I have the same character as Reagan. I will not denigrate Republicans.

Regarding #2: I'm more of a conservative than the people willing to "lose on principle".

And I have more "class" than the people who spend all their time calling people brave enough to actually put themselves out there, RINOS!

38 posted on 08/23/2010 2:53:23 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
Time for that walk. Give the girls hugs and kisses for me.

p.s. I'll vouch for that character, conservatism and class.

39 posted on 08/23/2010 2:56:47 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: Deb; All

” Regarding #1: I have the same character as Reagan.”

Reagan didn’t have a foul mouth, and he was an enemy of RINOS.

“I will not denigrate Republicans.”

In other words, you cannot distinguish or WON’T between a McCain and a Ryan. You ARE the problem.

Regarding #2: I’m more of a conservative than the people willing to “lose on principle”.

Principle means nothing to you.

Spoken like a true liberal democrat.


40 posted on 08/23/2010 3:00:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson))
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To: AuntB

John McCain is a chameleon RINO, always has been and always will be!!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


41 posted on 08/23/2010 3:07:51 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Reagan didn’t have a foul mouth, and he was an enemy of RINOS.

Yes...that's why he promised to name Richard Schweiker as his candidate for Vice President in 1976 to "balance the ticket." That's why he chose GHW Bush as his running mate in 1980, after Bush described Reagan's plans for supply-side tax cuts as "Voodoo Economics."

You one-percenters never learn. When hurling insults it's best to have a grasp of your subject matter.

42 posted on 08/23/2010 3:16:45 PM PDT by Chunga (I Have Supported J.D. Since The Day He Announced)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Excuse me, but Reagan was a HUGE friend to every Republican. He campaigned tirelessly for Gerald Ford after Ford beat him in the primary and I'm sure you'd categorize Ford as a RINO. That term only surfaced recently when some conservatives became cowardly "Independents".

Reagan never would have agreed to political suicide by dividing the GOP into groups because he was a political genius who understood the necessity of majorities. Something you and Falconers are ignorant of.

And McCain is not running against Ryan, you boob. They aren't even in the same house.

Are you really this stupid? Obviously to run to the defense of every flying monkey.

43 posted on 08/23/2010 3:26:02 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: AuntB
Even the libs notice the duplicity of good ol' McCain!

It's pretty hard to miss! He has switched his positions so many times I can't keep track! One things for sure, IMO: if elected, he'll go back to his same traitorous ways and stab us in the back every chance he gets. Campaign promises are just words he says to get elected. The man has no vision or integrity.

Here's hopin' he takes a beating tomorrow.

PS - thanks for the link to the Rick Davis articles - I hadn't caught that before.

44 posted on 08/23/2010 3:38:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: Deb
Or are you trying to take JD down?

Huh? Pointing out McCain's flipflops and RINOism will bring JD down? Does not compute.

45 posted on 08/23/2010 3:42:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: AuntB
And it’s the likes of you that make this MY LAST POST.

NOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!

There will always be trolls and jerks on FR. Don't let them chase you away or else RINOism and liberalism wins.

Take a break and recharge. Conservatives need you!

46 posted on 08/23/2010 3:47:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: colorado tanker
Actually, McCain was a conservative before he was a moderate before he was a conservative again.

That's because it was an election year before it wasn't before it was. Sheesh, I'm starting to sound like a Donovan song!

47 posted on 08/23/2010 5:45:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AuntB
"Will the Real John McCain Please Stand Up?"

McCain did all his standing in the military. Since he entered politics, all of his time has been spent alternately on his knees and on his back.

48 posted on 08/23/2010 5:50:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AuntB

As soon as the election is over, McLame will put his Mr. Conservative suit back into mothballs for another six years.


49 posted on 08/23/2010 5:58:31 PM PDT by kevao
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To: OldDeckHand

36 hours from...now.


50 posted on 08/23/2010 6:30:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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