Did the Florida Preacher Support soldier funeral protestors or is it a setup/smear campaign?

[fruser1]

I've seen a few threads saying that the preacher who plans on burning the koran is associated w/the church that protests soldier funerals.

I had my doubts, so I did a quick google and found this article:

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/08/2209487/attention-might-fan-quran-flames.html

where it describes a member of the westboro church complaining about the florida one because westboro burned korans in DC and no one noticed.

The only other stuff I found was on blogs and wiki (which is basically a blog), including the florida church itself.

So it may actually be that someone or someones out there is trying to smear this guy and make it look like he supports the soldier funeral protesters.

What do you guys think? I don't put anything past libs, which have lying and propoganda down to a science like the efficient little fascists they are. What a better way to turn off conservatives than to associate someone w/the funeral protestors.

[yldstrk]

My take on this—Fred Phelps is insanely jealous because when his little band of loons burned Crayons no one noticed.

Fred Phelps is a child beater/abuser whose own children hate him except for his kookie daughter. His justification for picketing funerals is illogical and insanity reigns.

The ONLY “connection” is that Fred claims he burned Crayons. Big Woop.

[jiggyboy]

Wayne Sapp, a pastor with the Dove World Outreach Center stood with members of his congregation alongside the Westboro Baptist Church members at Trinity United Methodist Church.

Sapp’s group and Westboro Baptist members sang songs such as “This Land is Going Straight to Hell” and “I’m Ashamed to Be an American,” to the tune of “This Land is Your Land” and “I’m Proud to Be an American” respectively.

http://www.alligator.org/news/local/article_b35e2dce-4b5c-11df-957c-001cc4c03286.html

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This koran burning event would not be world news if it had not been made world news. The powers that be latched on to this story and turned it into the monster it is. Had the general and the policians ignored this, maybe a hundred people in Florida would know about it. Now the world knows, but to what end? Yes, I am cynical and suspicious. I think this is a set-up for something, a provocation that can be used for all sorts of things.

Have no idea about a Phelps connection.

[marstegreg]

Perhaps the Florida Minister is hoping that his rhetoric changes the “it is our Constitutional right” argument for the mosque? Both are legal, both are wrong. Maybe he is just saying these things to show how ridiculous the mosque argument really is. At least I hope so...

[dps.inspect]

All I can say to that is, terrorism really does work as a tool to bend a society, and Americans are very selective about which kind of free speech they are “willing to fight and die for” to protect, i.e., less likely to defend the kind that may actually result in taking a bullet.

Can’t say that burning a koran, in and of itself, is the way to resist and fight off Islam and its many disparate tentacles. For me the bigger issue is the one of free speech and the right of every US citizen. I may not choose to burn a koran, but I sure as hell will stand up for that pastor’s right to do so... let it be a lesson of tolerance both from the left and Islam, the religion of peace.

[Texas Eagle]

I'm suspicious about this whole thing.

Could this be an attempted "Reichstag Moment" by a Leftist agitator?

[stuartcr]

These events are made world news, because that is the way the world currently is.

[yldstrk]

maybe so

[Hojczyk]

The media can say were all racist

[earlJam]

Here is a Free Republic thread straight from Terry Jones’ website.

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In Support of Westboro Baptist [Dr. Terry Jones “burn a Koran” supports Fred Phelps]
Dove World Outreach Center ^ | April 21, 2010

Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:28:57 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2584978/posts

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He likes them. He marched with them in April of this year.

The guy is scum and our military ought to drop him off behind Taliban lines in Afghanistan with a burnt Koran tied around his neck.

[Nevadan]

re: His justification for picketing funerals is illogical and insanity reigns.

Actually, there is a justification. It is money. Phelps makes his money by suing those who oppose his picketing of funerals.

[cripplecreek]

The Florida “pastor” os a wannabe cult leader who teaches that his students need to ditch their families to serve God.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

Thanks for posting the link. That is pretty convincing evidence that Westboro and Dove are birds of a feather flocking together.

http://www.alligator.org/news/local/article_b35e2dce-4b5c-11df-957c-001cc4c03286.html

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This is more than a time & chance thing. It's not like a Youtube video that went viral. News of these 50 or so Floridians burning a koran was trumpeted by high-ranking geo-political figures, weeks before the event.

It would almost be better if they were just that stupid, but they aren't. Think about the knowledge and understanding of someone like Petraeus. He knows how information and psychology works - as do the other heads of state who went to Pakistan and said, "Hey, see this little speck on the map of Florida here? We'll, there's a group of people there who are going to burn a Koran, and we're against it. Now what are you going to do about it?"

[Polybius]

Whether he supports the crazies in the Westboro Baptist Church or not, he is being just as callous to the welfare of U.S. troops.

Here is what Sarah Palin thinks of this guy:

Palin: Koran burning is 'unnecessary provocation'

"People have a constitutional right to burn a Koran if they want to, but doing so is insensitive and an unnecessary provocation -- much like building a mosque at Ground Zero," said the former Alaska governor.

Every day, our U.S. troops fight, side by side, with Muslims who do not want extremist religious nutjobs running their lives and cutting off the noses of their daughters in the name of Islam any more than we want the Spanish Inquisition running our lives in the name of Christianity.

Why insult our Muslim allies that are fighting and dying with us against the extremist religious nutjobs?

I have a Constitutional right to hold a rally, with the international news media invited, to proclaim that I know that all U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan think that all Iraqi and Afghan mothers are filthy prostitutes.

Yes, I have that Constitutional right but it is an action that deliberately puts our troops in danger.

The more this pastor digs in his heels, the more I believe that he, like that maggot, Philip Phelps, actually wants our troops to die.

[stuartcr]

Yes, it is more than a chance thing, it’s the way it is.

[Larry Lucido]

Crayons? Crayons???

Now, astroturf! I’d burn that!

[Navy Patriot]

There are probably some background motivations and back story here, and the Koran burning may be called irritating, but, in a society where citizens have free speech, anybody can do it, and it is no more than that.

This is the advantage in this action. No Matter who here burns Korans, the Muslims worldwide are limited to dour faced tut tut's, or the expose themselves for what they are, a barbaric cult religion with a large percentage of ultra violent fanatics, all stuck in the twelfth century.

That's why the lefties are so wound up, they know the Moo's can't control themselves, will get a lot of bad press for the violence, and Hussein and the Rat apologizers will look the worse for it with an election coming.

[ZULU]

I'm conflicted.

If this guy is involved with those lunatics who picket funerals of American soldiers, he is a problem.

At the same time, ANYBODY should have the right to burn Korans publicly - in Florida or anywhere else.

If people can burn the American Flag and the U.S. military can confiscate Bibles from American soldiers and burn them in Afghanistan, I sure as hell want to burn as many damn Korans as possible.

Islam OPERATES through intimidation, violence and terror. Days ago, Muslims and American Islamophiles were telling us that expressing First Amendment Rights by burning Korans would “threaten” Americans.

Last night that vicious bastard Imam said that not building their damn Mosque at the 9-11 sight would “threaten” Americans.

Years ago Muslims started “threatening” Europeans over cartoons, books, and other things and now they are virtual extra-legal lords of parts of France and Britain, operating under their own courts and dominating entire sections of major cities.

Is THAT was accommodating these fiends produces?

Being anti-Muslim isn't racist. Islam is a belief system, not a race - anybody can be a Muslim although MOST of them are concentrated in certain population groups.

BEing anti-Muslim isn't being anti-religious as Islam is a POLITICAL system as well as a religious and economic system and their politics, philosophies and economics are in direct opposition to everything the west stands for.

We made a serious mistake years ago when we allowed the politically crowd to bamboozle us into believing NAZIs. Communists, and Fascist had a “right” to spew their violent, anti-western rhetoric. Prior to that America had NO PROBLEM distinguishing between legitimate political opposition and people who were aiders and abettors of treasonous activities.

And now those prior missteps have come home to roost.

ERGO, BURN THE DAMN KORANS!!! BURN THEM NOW!!

And do everything possible to stop the mosque at the 9-11 site and block Islamization of America.