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Mossberg Unveils $276 “Tactical .22″
The Truth About Guns ^ | 23 September, 2009 | Robert Farago

Posted on 09/24/2010 8:45:36 AM PDT by marktwain

Mossberg’s unveiling its entry into the tactical .22 market with a product cleverly called the Tactical .22. Here’s the press release:

Mossberg International introduces the Tactical .22–an alternative firearm for those shooters and enthusiasts who want the look and feel of an AR-style .22 rimfire with an affordable price.

Mossberg knows its target market: price-driven firearms buyers (Hecho en Mexico baby!). It’s a bit surprising that they’re so late to the AR-style .22 game. Even slow-mo Smith & Wesson’s tapped the AR gestalt, with a damn nice product too: the M&P15-22, in both standard and CA-compliant version for around $500 – $600 bucks. The Mossie clocks in at roughly half the price. Right answer . . .

With the rising costs of centerfire ammunition, the new Tactical .22 rimfires are a great choice for recreational shooters, as well as those searching for a cost-effective training platform.

Ain’t that the truth. Well, maybe. While an AR .22′s trigger and general ergonomics would help sharpen a shooter’s full-size AR skills, there’s nothing like the recoil. In fact, you wouldn’t even call it recoil, and managing recoil is the Big Kahuna. Also, baby ARs weigh less. So . . . it’s not really the same, is it? There’s no substitute for training on the weapon you’re going to use with the ammo you’re going to fire.

Also, while .22 is as cheap as it gets, and Mossberg’s audience is into cheap, there are a lot of handgun-caliber carbines hitting the market at the moment. They’re a far better choice for less than 5.56 protection; you’d have to hit a human exactly in the right place or many times with .22s to do any damage.

The lightweight and fast-handling Tactical .22 parallels the look and feel of today’s AR-style rifle while being built around Mossberg International’s reliable .22 autoloader. Taking cues from their proven 702 autoloader, the Tactical .22 matches an 18” barrel to a quad rail forend allowing the operator to fit the rifle with lights, lasers or other tactical accessories.

Now we’re getting closer. It’s a toy gun that’s not really a toy but it is but it isn’t.

Two stock configurations will be offered in this series: a six-position adjustable and fixed stock. The six-position polymer stock adjusts the length of pull from 10-3/4” – 14.5” accommodating youth and smaller framed shooters up to adults. The fixed position stock has a standard 13” LOP. The Tactical .22 is integrated with an A2-style carry handle and an adjustable rear sight aligned with a front post sight.

Another smart move. No question: the Tactical 22 will be THE ultimate Christmas Story gift for an entire generation of young boys. I reckon that’s an extremely price-sensitive market, and Mossberg nails it.

The Picatinny handle mount is included, allowing versatility in scopes and other optics while providing the clearance necessary to utilize the AR-style sights. Other features included with the Tactical .22 are sling mounts and a ten round magazine.

The 10-round capacity sucks. A Henry Repeating Rifle gives you 16. But the Henry’s a heavy old thing and it doesn’t LOOK like an AR (Western vs. military). You can’t put lights and lasers and cup holders on a rifle that you use from a horse. It’s only a matter of time before someone offers a 30-round mag for this bad little boy. I wonder why Mossberg didn’t do it straight out of the gate. Lawyers. Bah.

MSRP: $276

There’s your headline attraction, although one wonder just how “cheap and cheerful” this product will be. If it’s a piece of junk for that price, well, who cares, really? Beggars can’t be choosers, even if they’re armed.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 22; ar15; banglist; mossberg
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To: Hardastarboard

Nice combo. I’m with you.

However; I do have a Mossberg shot gun that I can hit 50 at trap consistently. Don’t ask about skeet. ;o)

41 posted on 09/24/2010 9:16:04 AM PDT by super7man
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To: rickb308

Rick....#4 buck should be your inside the house AP round. Have slugs and 0 or OO buck for when you have to shoot through your own walls or car doors.

42 posted on 09/24/2010 9:17:06 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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If that is seriously it they will sell a ton of them.

43 posted on 09/24/2010 9:17:16 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Eagles6
Very wicked round

Roger that. I've done some experimenting on cantaloupes and watermelons down on my lower forty. None survived.
44 posted on 09/24/2010 9:19:15 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: refermech

PC Walmart won’t be allowed to carry them unless: They come in a pretty colors. They turn that black stock to a nice walnut finish. They take off the flash hider and pistol grip. And limit it to a three round magazine. With those changes, they would probably want to sell it in full-auto and seek exemption from the NFA.

45 posted on 09/24/2010 9:20:21 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Don’t let more than half a dozen get together or you’re a goner.

46 posted on 09/24/2010 9:21:20 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: ComputerGuy

At ranges inside a residence, #8 birdshot from a 12 gauge aimed at the head will blind the average perp, then you can finish the episode as you see fit.

47 posted on 09/24/2010 9:26:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Eagles6
Don’t let more than half a dozen get together or you’re a goner.

That's where you'd like one of these, w/ its 50rd mags:

48 posted on 09/24/2010 9:29:55 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Eagles6
Not to worry. I face them one at a time.
After all, it's my garden :)
49 posted on 09/24/2010 9:30:51 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: marktwain

I bought a Smith and Wesson M&P15R 5.45 x 39mm a couple of years ago and about 10,000 rounds of Russian ammo (cheap but corrosive, but OK if weapon is cleaned properly). I’ve been satisfied with the purchase.

50 posted on 09/24/2010 9:31:30 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: marktwain

Found this elsewhere on the web

In March of 1980, the obstreperous militant leftist Oscar Romero, Archbishop of San Salvador, was assassinated outside of the city’s main cathedral. The assassin employed a scoped, turn-bolt rifle chambered for the .22 LR round, and fired from a distance of 80 meters. Romero was killed by a single bullet to the heart.

And -

F.B.I. statistics clearly show more people in the U.S. die, accidentally or intentionally, every year from .22 LR gunshot wounds than any other round.

I owuld note that this stat may be driven more by lack of pre-hospital care or that folks simplely own more 22LR weapons than not.

But - get shot by anything - and not have a truma center nearby - and you may become parts of these grim statistics..

Also - The bulk of sound-suppressed pistols designed for covert use by clandestine operatives have been chambered for 22LR - think Mossad.

51 posted on 09/24/2010 9:38:51 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: LoneStarGI
Ruger makes a version of their 10/22 semi-auto rifle for the 22 magnum. You may have to order it though, cause it’s not as common as the standard 10/22.

IIRC, Ruger stopped making the 10/22 Magnum several years ago. Used examples bring premium prices. Also, Remington recalled its Model 597 rifles in .22WMR not long ago.

It's a tough cartridge to successfully use in an autoloader (at least of the traditional blow-back design). I think AMT still makes their stainless 10/22 clone in .22 Mag, and Volquartsen has a version of the hot-rod rimfire too. Even so, the ranks of rimfire magnum semi-autos are definitely thin.

I've been hoping to see a .22 WMR conversion for the AR-15, but so far everything of the sort is still in prototype stage.

52 posted on 09/24/2010 9:44:19 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: devane617

I own 2 military surplus Mossberg 500s.
If it’s good enough for the army it will be fine for home defense.

53 posted on 09/24/2010 9:48:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now in the Depression.)
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To: Hardastarboard

I agree with you. A 10/22 with a high quality 30 round mag might not be the best choice for home protection but it is still a very very good one.

54 posted on 09/24/2010 9:49:06 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: refermech

my brother used to have a “suppressed .22” for dealing with varmints without alarming the was a .22 that had a nipple from baby calf bottle fastened to the end of the barrel with a radioator clamp...unfortunately, that gun was lost in the tragic house fire along with all the rest...

55 posted on 09/24/2010 9:58:21 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: marktwain

Tactical my ass. This thing is no more tactical than my Remington nylon 66. Any gun is better than no gun at all when you need a gun but if you get into a shoot out with this thing move out as quickly as possible if you are able to.

56 posted on 09/24/2010 10:05:56 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: devane617

I feel the same about ARs.

57 posted on 09/24/2010 10:06:00 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Eagles6
Kel Tec just came out with a .22 mag semi pistol. Mag holds 30 rds I think. . .


Calibers: .22 Magnum (.22WMR) 
Weight unloaded: 13.6oz. 385.6g 
Loaded Magazine: 6oz. 170.1g 
Length: 7.9" 200.7mm 
Height: 5.8" 147.3mm 
Width: 1.3" 33.0mm 
Barrel length: 4.3" 109.2mm 
Sight radius: 6.9" 175.3mm 
Energy (40gr): 138ft-lbs 187J 
Capacity: 30 rounds 
Trigger pull: 4-6 lbs 17.8-26.7N 

Slide and barrel are 4140 steel, frame is 7075 aluminum. 
Grip, slide cover, trigger, mag release, and safety
levers are glass reinforced Nylon (Zytel), much like other
Kel-Tec Pistols. Magazine is Also Zytel and holds 30 rounds,
with round count ports. Other features include: dual opposing extractors for reliability, heel
magazine release to aid in magazine retention, dovetailed aluminum front sight,
Picatinny accessory rail under the barrel, Urethane recoil buffer,
captive coaxial recoil springs.
The barrel is fluted for light weight and effective heat dissipation.
PMR30 disassembles for cleaning by removal of a single pin. Description MSRP PMR-30 $ 415.00

58 posted on 09/24/2010 10:06:48 AM PDT by skeptoid (The Road to Serfdom is being paved by RINOS)
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To: stefanbatory

My tube-fed Marlin .22 doesn’t even make a “bang”, it’s more like a loud SNAP, like you were braking twigs or something...

snap... snap... snap

Darn nice little gun. Long barrel too.

59 posted on 09/24/2010 10:09:30 AM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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To: djf

this one didn’t even do was mpre like a muffled click...too bad about that fire...

60 posted on 09/24/2010 10:10:55 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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