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3M Co. will drop retirees from health plans, steer to Medicare
Bizjournals.com ^ | 10/4/2010 | Sam Black

Posted on 10/05/2010 8:46:17 AM PDT by Qbert

3M Co., citing new federal health laws, said Monday it won't cover retirees with its corporate health-insurance plan starting in 2013.

Instead, the company will direct retirees to Medicare-backed insurance programs, and will provide reimbursement for that coverage. It'll also reimburse retirees who are too young for Medicare; the company didn't provide further details.

The company made the changes known in a memo to employees Friday; news of the move was reported in The Wall Street Journal and confirmed Monday by 3M spokeswoman Jackie Berry.

In its memo, the company said the new health-reform act would create new opportunities for people in their 50s and 60s to find affordable insurance.

Maplewood-based 3M (NYSE: MMM) is one of the first large companies to indicate that it won't tap a large federal-government reimbursement program created by Congress as part of the health insurance reform package, The Wall Street Journal reported. The rebate program was meant to encourage employers to keep in place their health-insurance plans for retirees.

3M said the new policy will begin in 2013 for retirees who are 65 and older and qualify for Medicare. Non-Medicare eligible retirees and their dependents will join the program in 2015.

3M noted that these changes affect current and future retirees of 3M, regardless of their retirement date.

The new policy is likely to save 3M money because it reduces the risk to the manufacturer for rising medical costs, according to a University of Minnesota professor interviewed Monday by Minnesota Public Radio.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2010election; 2010midterms; 3m; bho44; bhohealthcare; congress; corruption; democrats; economy; elections; healthinsurance; hopeychangey; medicare; minnesota; mmm; obama; obamacare; obamavoters; publicoption; singlepayer; socialism; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; statesrights; taxes
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To: mainsail that
Nope, 3M is screwing its employees. If Obama forced them to honor their word, FR would be up in arms. Nope, The Federal Government is screwing 3m's employees by making it uneconomical for 3m to continue to offer it's retiree's health care. You can't steal from Peter to pay Paul then curse Peter when he stops letting you steal steal.
61 posted on 10/05/2010 11:39:38 AM PDT by facedodge (Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~Friedman)
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To: Gaffer

“Why would she do that? It is exactly what Obama and his ilk want! Destroy private health care insurance so that the Government will be ‘forced’ to implement the SINGLE PAYER plan, like it always intended.”

That, indeed, is the long-term intention but it wasn’t supposed to happen until after The One was safely re-elected in 2012.


62 posted on 10/05/2010 12:11:48 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“Al Franken: Health reform has made a difference for Minnesotans”

I assume that was part of Mr. Franken’s comedy bit. (/s)

But seriously, I hope that Tom Emmer hammers away at idiot Lib statements like Franken’s in the remaining weeks...


63 posted on 10/05/2010 12:21:12 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: TSgt

Got Vasoline?


64 posted on 10/05/2010 12:36:24 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: cardinal4

I think this is the Zimbabwe model of health care.

We will save money because there wont be any doctors soon.


65 posted on 10/05/2010 12:41:16 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Qbert
Another McDonald's health plan thanks to Obama?

If major corporations continue to make the news this way, Obama will help engineer a major Republican victory in November thanks to the HEALTH CARE DISASTER he invented...

66 posted on 10/05/2010 1:39:08 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Qbert

“If you like your health care, you can keep it.”

And so it goes.

Most of those retirees probably voted rat because they think rats are the “givers”.


67 posted on 10/05/2010 2:19:20 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: rarestia
The workers and employers have each been contributing 1.45% of the worker's wages to fund medicare for as long as they have worked. Doesn't the employer and the employed have a right to expect something for that money? It sounds like the employer is going to pay the difference in costs between what Medicare pays and what their program would have paid.

Health plans for retirees are something employers have found they can't adequately budget for. They have bankrupted more than one company that had been on solid footing for decades.

People asked the government to reduce the uncertainty and the rate at which health costs were growing. As is often the case when the government steps in, they did the exact opposite of what people really wanted.

You can't expect companies to provide the same benefits when the government we elected changes the rules on them.

McDonald's was the first big company with high turnover that offered somewhat limited health plans, but they won't be the last to point out that they can't possibly spend 80% or 85% of premiums on benefits without running huge deficits because of the overhead of managing policies for lots of what are often short term employees.

You can be sure that the major retailers and fast food chains face the same problems.

I'm sure Walmart is sitting back and waiting to see how the administration deals with McDonald's. They have to know that if they give McDonald's a waiver all the others with the same issue will ask for the same deal, and a considerable percentage of the minority that did support this horrible health care bill will feel betrayed.

68 posted on 10/05/2010 3:48:22 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Qbert
Of course this ONLY applies if you did NOT like your current healthcare insurance.

...because Hussein TOLD you that if you LIKED your healthcare plan, you COULD KEEP IT!

</ sarc>

69 posted on 10/05/2010 4:47:14 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Qbert.
3M Co., citing new federal health laws, said Monday it won't cover retirees with its corporate health-insurance plan starting in 2013. Instead, the company will direct retirees to Medicare-backed insurance programs, and will provide reimbursement for that coverage. It'll also reimburse retirees who are too young for Medicare; the company didn't provide further details.
See, it's gotta be the fault of Big Corporations that the nation's health is at risk. /sarc
70 posted on 10/05/2010 5:55:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: facedodge
Lean forward...is that not MSNBC’s new slogan....one of the clever ones here needs to design a caricature of Lean Over and correlate it to Obama with Bend Over
71 posted on 10/05/2010 6:07:13 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Qbert

...bad news for lots of Minnesota liberals.


72 posted on 10/05/2010 6:53:50 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: MSF BU

Hey, wait a minute! nobama said everything would be FREE! nobama is so intelligent and all-knowing. Just how can this be true? Just what kind of redistribution of wealth is this anyhow? nobama and his minions wouldn’t lie to me would they?????


73 posted on 10/05/2010 7:12:16 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen

...yes, it’s a good thing they have the rigorous intellect of Al Franken looking after them! Enjoy that medicare plan, 3M retirees.


74 posted on 10/05/2010 8:07:32 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Mr. Silverback

And he said it just the other day...to, to, to that woman...in the backyard, the warm and fuzzy backyard, so it REALLY has to be true.

FUBO


75 posted on 10/05/2010 10:01:10 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Portnoy

Right Socialism is free but there isn’t any.


76 posted on 10/06/2010 1:52:30 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: Portnoy

the Feds will TAX evil Companies like 3M who made a profit off cutting benefits for employees...

Means nothing - they simply pass the price along to consumers.
Companies do not pay tax, they just collect it from you and pass it to the government.

“Taxes don’t hurt the rich - they prevent you from becoming rich”


77 posted on 10/06/2010 4:59:37 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Wiggins

Watch for a new law or requirment that if a person wants to be a doctor he/she will have to accept medicare...

Given the rather large shortage of doctors in this country now, and the need to import huge numbers of semi qualified foreign practitioners, that is a threat without substance.
The medical profession is no longer attractive to Americans willing to invest 10-12 years & $750,000 in their schooling.


78 posted on 10/06/2010 5:06:24 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: rarestia

It’s just you. :) This will cost a fraction of what a traditional group would cost to keep in place.


79 posted on 10/06/2010 5:28:59 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: napscoordinator

I agree with you.

I don’t know the situation at MMM but if individuals were paying part of their medical insurance, not having it fully paid fully by the company, they may have a legal leg to stand on in a suit citing it was something they paid toward while working. Thinking that, the MMM attorneys probably came up with the idea of a stipend toward future medical coverage for retirees.


80 posted on 10/06/2010 5:43:21 AM PDT by Mouton
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