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Republicans' hard line since winning House could backfire (MSM Spin Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/12/2010 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 11/12/2010 1:54:40 AM PST by goldstategop

No bargaining, no deals, no compromise — that's the hard-line stance that Republicans have staked in the days since seizing control of the House.

Their prescription for the sluggish economy — lower taxes, huge spending cuts, less regulation, and repeal of the sweeping healthcare law just taking effect — excites the party's conservative base. But a long and ugly fight with President Obama and Senate Democrats, starting with next week's lame-duck session, could end up alienating the large number of Americans more interested in jobs than ideological battles.

The midterm vote was "an expression of anger and impatience," said James Thurber, an American University congressional expert. It was not, he said, a sudden burst of affection for the GOP.

In fact, exit polls showed Republicans and Democrats were almost equally disliked, with 53% of voters viewing Republicans unfavorably and 52% unhappy with Democrats.

That contempt for the two major parties, along with anxiety over the economy, fear for the future and a sense that most politicians aren't really listening, could explain why so many voters have so little patience with Washington these days.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
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MSM spin. It wants us to think voters don't really want spending cuts, a repeal of Obamacare and an extension of the Bush tax cuts.

Which begs the question: if voters are really that disgusted with the GOP, why did they elect the largest GOP majority since 1946? This "news analysis" doesn't address it.

1 posted on 11/12/2010 1:54:49 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I don’t think it works this way in this situation. The Republicans in the House are the ones that will make the bills. The Senate and President will be the ones who will say “NO”. The Democrats will be the party of “NO” with the House being Republican.


2 posted on 11/12/2010 1:57:21 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: goldstategop

An easy budget cut for families would be TV and News propaganda. All one needs now is an AM Radio.


3 posted on 11/12/2010 1:58:11 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: napscoordinator

Exactly. House conservatives should put forth as many reforms as they can and force the Senate and White House to say no.


4 posted on 11/12/2010 1:59:24 AM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: goldstategop
Of course, "we won" is not a hard-line stance. Republicans can sit in the back of the bus doesn't signal a hard-line stance.
5 posted on 11/12/2010 2:03:29 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: screaminsunshine

There may be a general pox on your houses attitude towards Washington politicians but this election wasn’t a repudiation of the notion America is a center-right country.

Or wasn’t the Times’ reporter paying attention to the election results last week?

There is no silver lining in it for the Democrats for at least the next two years.


6 posted on 11/12/2010 2:04:08 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

“seizing control”

Seizing? Makes it sound as if the Repubs did something illegal .

Little words like this are part of the tricks the MSM uses every day to make us look bad in print. The way to combat it is to be aware.


7 posted on 11/12/2010 2:06:02 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: Steely Tom

Its only Republicans who get accused of having a “hard line” when they win a majority. When Democrats do it, its called being “inclusive” and bringing about “hope and change.”

MSM, we’re onto you!


8 posted on 11/12/2010 2:06:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Steely Tom

The problem for Republicans traditionally is that when they win elections they buy into all this establishment/media bs that voters weren’t really saying much of anything. When Democrats win elections they take the ball and run with it!


10 posted on 11/12/2010 2:07:45 AM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: eCSMaster

They make it sound like the Republicans rode into Washington on the back of the tanks. Next they’ll say John Boehner is the second coming of Augusto Pinochet.

I know these people like the back of my hand. They never change.


11 posted on 11/12/2010 2:09:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Yup. Its the artillery offensive to soften up the GOP and make it amenable to compromise on the Democrats’ terms. Expect to see more along these lines in the coming weeks and months.

We can only hope the GOP doesn’t fall for it.


12 posted on 11/12/2010 2:11:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I’m sure the MSM is going to start pounding with daily interviews of folks saying how they thought the Reps were taking away too many goodies. The old “killing grandma by making her eat dogfood” game.


13 posted on 11/12/2010 2:12:48 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That, too. They will do everything they can to make sure when its all over people are itching to toss the GOP out on its rear end in 2012. The MSM is hoping the Republican Party plays according to their script again.


14 posted on 11/12/2010 2:14:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

“We can only hope the GOP doesn’t fall for it.”

Watching politics a long time......they always do :(


15 posted on 11/12/2010 2:16:02 AM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: napscoordinator; All

Being the party of NO didn’t seem to hurt conservatives in this election, so who is to say it would hurt the Dems if they become the party of NO.


16 posted on 11/12/2010 2:18:10 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: goldstategop; All

“The MSM is hoping the Rep. Party plays according to their script again.”

Given that the GOP and the Tea Party are playing from rather different scripts, The MSM will probably get their wish.


17 posted on 11/12/2010 2:22:29 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: goldstategop
No bargaining, no deals, no compromise —

Sounds like the Democrats last two years in office when they shut out the Republicans from every legislative process and chanted "We won". Now the shoe is somewhat on the other foot. Poor babies...

18 posted on 11/12/2010 2:26:29 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: goldstategop

The LA Time is lying about the poll numbers. It really was 53% unfavorable to Dems and 52% unfavorable to Republicans...just a point, but it makes the point that the LAT doesn’t tell the truth.
One thing we are certain of: The Republicans will not bail CA out, so the LAT should be worrying about how the Democrats that they’ve elected will keep their bankrupt state going.


19 posted on 11/12/2010 2:26:44 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: goldstategop

First, consider the source - the LSM, Obama’s cheerleaders.

So if they say Republicans are on the wrong path by being aggressive, it must mean exactly the opposite.

Carry on, and ignore the (attempted) BigMedia intimidation. Sounds like the Democrats are finally running scared.


20 posted on 11/12/2010 2:27:52 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: HarleyD
No bargaining, no deals, no compromise — * Sounds like the Democrats last two years in office when they shut out the Republicans from every legislative process and chanted "We won". Now the shoe is somewhat on the other foot. Poor babies...*

With ya on that one.

Republicans should take the door to the room where the 0-care bill was cut in private (Democrat) meetings off its hinges and hang it on the wall behind the speaker's podium in the House chamber. It wouldn't even need a plaque.

Just in case someone is tempted to claim the Ds were "reaching across the aisle" to work with Republicans.

21 posted on 11/12/2010 2:34:42 AM PST by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
The old “killing grandma by making her eat dogfood” game

..I don't think the dog is gonna hunt anymore..

22 posted on 11/12/2010 2:41:36 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: gleeaikin
so who is to say it would hurt the Dems if they become the party of NO.

because of "yes we can"

23 posted on 11/12/2010 2:44:24 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’m sure the MSM is going to start pounding with daily interviews of folks saying how they thought the Reps were taking away too many goodies. The old “killing grandma by making her eat dogfood” game.

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That’s the danger of the split government. If Republican’s had Congress/Senate/President, they could pass legislation and let the results refute the MSM spin. But now they have to be careful about the spin potential since the bills won’t get signed anyway.


24 posted on 11/12/2010 3:45:16 AM PST by November 2010
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To: Quiller
“Republicans should take the door to the room where the 0-care bill was cut in private (Democrat) meetings off its hinges and hang it on the wall behind the speaker's podium in the House chamber.”

This is a wonderful idea. This is not the time for the Republicans to ‘reach across the aisle’ and compromise with a group that ignored what their constituents wanted and shoved legislation down our throats. The Republicans should use this opportunity to diminish the democrat party. One of the biggest sticks Republicans have to do that with is the issue of transparency. Democrats are very vulnerable on the issues of arrogance and non-transparency.

25 posted on 11/12/2010 3:48:32 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

If any of this so-called-MSM bilge bothers you, take a ride on the wild side. Go to dimocrat underground and similar sites and see just how angry they are at just about everyone and everything...especially nobama. Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


26 posted on 11/12/2010 4:15:12 AM PST by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: eCSMaster

“Seizing? Makes it sound as if the Repubs did something illegal.”

Correct. Every word from these spoiled communist brats is deliberately chosen and repeated.


27 posted on 11/12/2010 4:30:39 AM PST by Luke21
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To: goldstategop
Their prescription for the sluggish economy — lower taxes, huge spending cuts, less regulation, and repeal of the sweeping healthcare law just taking effect — excites the party's conservative base. But a long and ugly fight with President Obama and Senate Democrats, starting with next week's lame-duck session, could end up alienating the large number of Americans more interested in jobs than ideological battles.

OK, so the conclusion is that:

1. lower taxes, huge spending cuts, less regulation, and repeal of the sweeping healthcare law...leads to jobs.

2. Why would Obama and Senate Democrats fight that?

28 posted on 11/12/2010 5:16:28 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Because they prefer government oversight of our lives to jobs.


29 posted on 11/12/2010 5:30:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
If mandate there be....the ONLY mandate that came from the recent mid-term election was that the voters want their representatives in both houses of congress to do what the people want.

Simple majority...do what the people they ostensibly represent want them to do. It's that simple.

If they don't....then they'll be fired in 2012.

As an aside...this last mid-term was probably the best argument in quite some time against establishing "term limits". It's called "voting".

30 posted on 11/12/2010 5:35:48 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: goldstategop
While voters are none to pleased with the GOP, it is exactly the path the author suggests that is the source of much of the displeasure.

The Tea Party did NOT send the GOP to Washington DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism, but to stop its sinister advance.

31 posted on 11/12/2010 5:39:50 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: eCSMaster
Read a Sci-Fi book where a sociologist talked of the “emotionality index” of the language they use.

“seizing control” is how they describe electoral victories of Republicans.

“swept into power” is how they would describe the electoral victories of Democrats.

I even recall hearing the phrase “the Bush regime”, but of course it is always the “0bama administration”.

32 posted on 11/12/2010 5:43:06 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
The Tea Party did NOT send the GOP to Washington DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism, but to stop its sinister advance.

Bump

33 posted on 11/12/2010 5:44:23 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: goldstategop

january 20, 2009: “We’re all socialists now”, “it was a velvet revolution....”

Now that their agenda has been sh*tcanned, they call for “moderation” from the opposition party that was triumphant over their agenda.


34 posted on 11/12/2010 5:50:11 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: goldstategop

Other way around


35 posted on 11/12/2010 5:53:55 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: goldstategop

On WTOP (local news radio) uber-liberal Hillary Howard proudly read the results of a new poll saying that only 48% of Americans approve (or some wording like that) of the recent Republican victory as opposed to 60% who approved of the 2006 Democratic victory. I’m not sure why we bother with elections any more. FUHH.


36 posted on 11/12/2010 5:58:15 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: goldstategop

socialism is stealing


37 posted on 11/12/2010 6:13:39 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: paulycy

Almost tagline worthy. Hmmmm.......


38 posted on 11/12/2010 6:38:01 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Almost tagline worthy. Hmmmm.......

Yeah, that's a really good one.

39 posted on 11/12/2010 6:42:58 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: goldstategop

This should be used as a motive to make sure that the GOP doesn’t “blow it”, for the next two years and beyond.


40 posted on 11/12/2010 6:43:31 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: allmendream
Almost tagline worthy. Hmmmm.......

HA! I had to retrace the thread to see your tagline... it sure is a great quote. :0)

41 posted on 11/12/2010 6:44:43 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy
Had to cut it down, but it looks pretty good.

My former tagline was “Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed.”

I like the new one. More topical.

42 posted on 11/12/2010 7:20:57 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: goldstategop

I prefer the direct approach. The narration is in Spanish (I think) but the vid tells the story.
Take no prisoners and NO negociations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XafAdkZIYKA


43 posted on 11/12/2010 9:19:36 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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