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Gates: Attack On Iran Won't Help
IsraelNationalNews ^ | November 16, 2010

Posted on 11/16/2010 10:18:49 AM PST by Fennie

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday that a military action against Iran would not halt Tehran's nuclear program, and would only make the government there more determined to forge ahead with the program. The program would be driven further underground, he said, making it even more difficult to supervise it.

He added that the sanctions imposed on Iran had the potential to divide the country's leadership, as evidence of the sanctions damage to the Iranian economy becomes ever clearer.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gates; iran; israel

1 posted on 11/16/2010 10:18:56 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

That depends on the size and the nature of the action.


2 posted on 11/16/2010 10:21:42 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Fennie

If Gates was in power during WWII, we would either still be fighting that war or speaking German or Japanese. He’s a fool and a coward.


3 posted on 11/16/2010 10:22:10 AM PST by RC2
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To: Fennie

Won’t help who?

I don’t want to “supervise” their nuclear development, I want to halt it. Period.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 10:23:19 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Fennie

I beg to differ.
If we turn every major site into clumps of smoking glass, they might just get the f’in hint!!
These animals do not respect the subtle nuances of diplomacy. But a poke in the eye with a bacon covered stick might just get their attention.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 10:26:37 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Daveinyork

“That depends on the size and the nature of the action.”

Exactly.

A stupid pinPRICK action would be worthless. Bomb the living DOGSH!T out of them, that’s something else entirely.

Gates is a flaming pussy.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 10:26:40 AM PST by Levante
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To: Fennie

He’s an idiot.

It would be mighty hard for Iran to forge ahead with a nuclear program if their entire country is utterly destroyed.

Israel can do it and will do it if need be...the only chance Iran has to survive is to abandon this mad scheme.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 10:28:41 AM PST by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: Fennie

Robert ( Neville Chamberlain) Gates.

“Peace in our Slimes!”


8 posted on 11/16/2010 10:28:48 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Fennie
What a disgusting wilted weenie. I don't know what keeps us from storming the castle gates, and dealing with some of these creeps.
It would be a mercy to be defeated by an overwhelming foreign army than by this butch of spineless, stupid girls.
9 posted on 11/16/2010 10:34:50 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: Fennie

Gates: “Mr. Churchill, it won’t help to fight the German blitz. The more stubborn we are, the more they will bomb our cities, the more we will have to rebuild after they occupy us. Besides, you’ll just make it more difficult to deal with them when they come into London. After all, even though we saved the army at Dunkirk, did it stop the war?”

Gates: “ Col. Chamberlain, the Rebs have attacked us at Little Round Top four times already. We are out of ammunition. We can’t possibly repel another attack by these very determined Texans and Alabamians. We need to give up, even though we in the 20th Maine have been told to hold this position at all hazards because it is the end of the left flank of the entire Union Army here in Gettysburg. Besides it will just make the Rebs mad at us if we resist further.”

Gates: “ Gen. MacAuliffe—we are surrounded by the Germans. The weather is atrocious, and we are running out of ammunition and food. It’s too cold. If we keep resisting it will just make the Germans madder. And you want to them WHAT??”

Mr. Gates—you dishonor the men and women in uniform. Please resign today. I don’t care how far underground the nuclear program goes in Iran—we have to destroy it, because the alternative is unthinkable.


10 posted on 11/16/2010 10:35:52 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Fennie

Come on Gates. Use your head when making public statements


11 posted on 11/16/2010 10:36:33 AM PST by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: Fennie

The man in charge of our defense establishment....

Sleep well tonight?


12 posted on 11/16/2010 10:41:00 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Fennie

Gates: “Mr. Churchill, it won’t help to fight the German blitz. The more stubborn we are, the more they will bomb our cities, the more we will have to rebuild after they occupy us. Besides, you’ll just make it more difficult to deal with them when they come into London. After all, even though we saved the army at Dunkirk, did it stop the war?”

Gates: “ Col. Chamberlain, the Rebs have attacked us at Little Round Top four times already. We are out of ammunition. We can’t possibly repel another attack by these very determined Texans and Alabamians. We need to give up, even though we in the 20th Maine have been told to hold this position at all hazards because it is the end of the left flank of the entire Union Army here in Gettysburg. Besides it will just make the Rebs mad at us if we resist further.”

Gates: “ Gen. MacAuliffe—we are surrounded by the Germans. The weather is atrocious, and we are running out of ammunition and food. It’s too cold. If we keep resisting it will just make the Germans madder. And you want to them WHAT??”

Mr. Gates—you dishonor the men and women in uniform. Please resign today. I don’t care how far underground the nuclear program goes in Iran—we have to destroy it, because the alternative is unthinkable.


13 posted on 11/16/2010 10:41:48 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Fennie

“You did not seriously think that a hobbit could contend with the will of Sauron, there are none that can.” - Sarumon


14 posted on 11/16/2010 10:42:00 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Fennie

I say send in Mitch Rapp!


15 posted on 11/16/2010 10:43:02 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Fennie

Come on people and leave gates alone , hell he cant help it that he is serving under the worst us president in the history of the united states , that is what happens when you lay down with pigs , you get up smelling like one.....


16 posted on 11/16/2010 10:45:14 AM PST by MATSEVAH
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To: Bobalu
The notion that the U.S. would ever engage in a military campaign to "utterly destroy" Iran is silly. Gates' comments should be viewed in that context.

If the U.S. didn't "utterly destroy" Afghanistan (or Saudi Arabia, for that matter) after 9/11, then it sure isn't going to do any such thing to Iran.

17 posted on 11/16/2010 10:46:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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18 posted on 11/16/2010 10:48:00 AM PST by The Comedian (I enjoy progressives, especially in a light cream sauce.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The US won’t utterly destroy Iran. Israel will if they need to.

They won’t quietly go to the ovens ever again.


19 posted on 11/16/2010 10:49:38 AM PST by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: Fennie

How did Gates ever get to the level he’s at? Give that girly-man a desk job and get someone in there who will take care of business.


20 posted on 11/16/2010 10:53:53 AM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: MichaelCorleone

So far sanctions and observation of Iran has worked wonders.
Gates must Go.


21 posted on 11/16/2010 11:03:56 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Fennie

It should be pointed out that, if he is correct, that a conventional military attack would not stop Iran, then the question does not necessarily become one of inaction.

And he should be very cautious, because other, unconventional means, can be even more horrific, in their own way and right.

First and foremost, there should be a public warning to Iran. One that is clear, concise and unambiguous.

Peace in the Cold War was maintained with the use of the Mutually Assured Destruction, or MAD, doctrine. And while it has gone the way, there is a very powerful interpolation of that doctrine that should make the Iranians, and by this I mean *all* Iranians, think long and hard.

Simply put, the United States should notify Iran that if it uses a nuclear weapon, or even launches a nuclear missile, in a belligerent manner, it will result in a “death penalty” for their entire nation.

Every single Iranian, all their animals and plants, will be forfeit. And even if their leaders hide deep underground, all other Iranians in Iran will die. They will be a handful of survivors in an empty land.

This will be accomplished by the United States detonating a series of airburst neutron bombs over Iran, thus bombarding every single living thing with enough enhanced neutron radiation to kill them in seconds or mere minutes.

It will not destroy their cities or their oil. But every person in Iran will be dead.

And then, whether or not their nuclear attack on another nation was successful, that other nation will be given the entirety of Iran as compensation. All their buildings, all their holy places, all their wealth, at the modest inconvenience of policing up all the dead Iranians.

Men, women, children, farm animals, domestic animals, trees and crops will all be dead. The Iranian people, the Persian people, will be no more.

And no one will cry for them. The Iranians living in other nations will become stateless, for Iran will be no more, and its lands given away. All that was Persia will only exist in museums, perhaps sold off in stores by their hated enemy that they were foolish enough to attack.


22 posted on 11/16/2010 11:04:24 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Fennie

This is the idiot Bush picked after we lost in the 2006 midterms, and Obama kept him on. Gates also was in the CIA for a while. Tells me most of what I need to know about the guy.


23 posted on 11/16/2010 11:07:20 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Daveinyork
That depends on the size and the nature of the action.

Exactly. You've summed it up perfectly.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 11:12:47 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Fennie
Ummm... Bob....

IF Y0U DON'T BOMB THEM BACK TO THE STONE AGE...

THEY WILL INDEED REBUILD IT.... (AGAIN)

yumpin' yiminy....

Where do we find 'em....
You can't make this stuff up!

25 posted on 11/16/2010 11:15:04 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You need to replace Gates.

To do nothing only leaves them and Pakistan on their paths of global conquest.

Guaranteed once Iran has the weapons they will use them.

There is NO mistake in this.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 11:16:47 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Wings-n-Wind
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27 posted on 11/16/2010 11:19:20 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Fennie

“The program would be driven further underground, he said, making it even more difficult to supervise it.”

Something that has been completely destroyed no longer requires supervision.

Gates is nothing but an Obama boy.....


28 posted on 11/16/2010 11:22:08 AM PST by Gator113 ("Don't touch my junk......")
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To: MATSEVAH

A man of honor would resign from this position.


29 posted on 11/16/2010 11:37:29 AM PST by Carling (Remember November)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

. . but, you see, Achmadinajad (sp.?) likely sees this as a positive thing. He thinks the Mahdi is down in a well somewhere, and just such a thing will catapult him up out of that well, and all will be great after that in his mind. - As Christ said many times, though, “fear not”.


30 posted on 11/16/2010 11:48:04 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: Fennie

Gates would’ve said the same thing to the Israelis before they schwacked Iraq’s Osirak nuke facility in 1981.


31 posted on 11/16/2010 12:00:42 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Fennie
He added that the sanctions imposed on Iran had the potential to divide the country's leadership

Is this guy (Gates) running for SecState? The hope of UN sanctions having some effect on Iran's stability has been a false one for decades. Just an opportunity to kick the proverbial can down the road.

32 posted on 11/16/2010 12:03:51 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: MATSEVAH
Come on people and leave gates alone , hell he cant help it that he is serving under the worst us president in the history of the united states , that is what happens when you lay down with pigs , you get up smelling like one.....

No.. Gates could show a semblance of honor and resign his position as SecDef.

33 posted on 11/16/2010 12:06:46 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Fennie
This guy calls himself Defense Secretary?

We could OBLITERATE all nuke capability in Iran for 30 years...from the air alone...without using nukes ourselves.

Sheesh. What a 'tard.

34 posted on 11/16/2010 1:22:14 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Fennie

He can read their minds, you see. The more we wait, the more hopeless the attack will be.


35 posted on 11/16/2010 4:09:15 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Fennie

If Washington DC and the surrounding counties sank into the ocean tomorrow, we’d be much better off.


36 posted on 11/16/2010 4:11:05 PM PST by dr_who
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37 posted on 11/16/2010 4:31:53 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson

The Iranian régime should have been taken out in 2003. So many Western troops have been murdered by Iranian trained & armed Shia terrorist proxies, so many freedom-seeking Iranians have been murdered as well, while Gates makes this kind of insane appeasing statement.


38 posted on 11/16/2010 6:26:43 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: Fennie

Give me 20 Minutemen III or LGM-118A Peacekeeper ICBMS, each with a 1000KG solid tungsten warhead. The impact reealses the equivalent of .75 Kilotons of TNT into a small area. This Kinetic Energy bunker buster could take out all of Iran’s underground facilites. Add B-2s, B-1s, and tomahawks hitting these sites again as well as command and control and air defence, followed by 2 carrier wings taking out Iran’s navy, coastal batteries Iran’s military capacity would be decimated in a day. We could then go back and target Hizbollah, Basij, and Revolutionary guard facilities. We could wrek them in a few days without nukes. And given enough damage to Hezbollah and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, not only would Iran be crippled and without a functioning nuclear program, but it would be without the tools to supress an internal revolt.


39 posted on 11/16/2010 8:01:13 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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It couldn’t hoit.

Thanks Fennie.


40 posted on 11/16/2010 8:09:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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