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Little Ice Age And Expanding Arctic Ice -“Climate Forecasts Will Have To Be Thrown In The Dustbin”
Notrickszone.com ^ | 14. Dezember 2010 | P Gosselin on

Posted on 12/15/2010 10:45:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The cold now sweeping over Europe and other parts of the globe are due to natural cycles, says German meteorologist Thomas Globig. He points out that the first 2 weeks of December in Britain have been the coldest since the last little ice age 350 years ago, and claims some climate models have criminally under-estimated solar influence on climate and that we ought to expect colder winters, and expanding Arctic ice in the years ahead. 

“Some climate forecasts will have to be thrown in the dustbin.”

All the talk and hype among the clueless masses have been, and still is, about global warming due to human emissions of CO2. Will the temperature rise be 2°C, 4°C or 10°C? Will we be able to avert the climate catastrophe?

Yes, it all sounds like a really bad B-rated movie. But it’s not – it’s all junk science produced by green activists. Ignore it. Dr Benny Peiser here brings our attention to an essay posted at wetter.t-online.de here.

The talk of this essay is not about warming, but of drastic cooling. According to wetter.info:

‘The year 2010 will be the coldest in ten years for Germany,’ says Thomas Globig of the Meteomedia weather service in a discussion with wetter.info.

Now it’s sure: temperatures in Germany this year have averaged 8.1 °C, or 0.2°C below the long-term measured average of 8.3°C.  ‘I’m afraid that by the end of the year, we are going to end up much lower,’ says Globig.”

Us sceptics know that climate goes in cycles. Back in the 60s and 70s Europe got a lot of snow. Then it got milder – due to man-made global warming! – all the government funded scientists opportunistically chimed in. But lo and behold, it’s getting colder again. People have been caught off guard says Globig.

The sun will be decreasing in activity over the coming decades.

Why is it getting cooler?

Globig attributes it to natural cycles: mainly the large-scale changes in the air flow over the Atlantic and fluctuating solar activity. There are Lows near the Azores and Highs in the North Atlantic, which means cold Arctic air is getting pumped down across Europe. “The weather situation has been turned up on its head,” says Globig.

Oh – but this is all due to man’s disruption of the weather, the alarmists will tell you. It’s actually abnormal! Not so, says Globig:

This change in the so-called North Atlantic Oscillation is completely normal - only that they are difficult to forecast in detail.’ With storm Kyrill in 2007, it was the peak of air mass flow from the warmer Atlantic into the European region.

Globig points out:

 Since then, the weather over the Atlantic has gotten calmer.”

Calmer weather over the Atlantic? Time for the climatologists to bring their crystal balls in for a major recalibration. Their crackpot models predicted just the opposite.

The NAO has switched. That means we ought to expect more cold winters in the years ahead. That’s right – forget warming. Ignore all the morons in the mainstream media.

These low temperatures could continue for a few years, maybe decades. Even icier winters can’t be ruled out. ‘This has occurred before in the past, and has to do with natural climate changes,’ says Globig. We could even be at the start of a little ice age, ‘the probability is there.’

It has to do with solar activity, according to wetter-t-online.de:

It has gone past its high point of its 200-year high-phase and will decrease over the coming decades. Around the year 2040/2050, scientists calculate there will be a new so-called solar minimum, that means much less feed-in of solar energy into the Earth’s atmosphere.

And when that happens, it means colder times ahead. And that means colder poles, which means expanding Arctic ice. Like Joe Bastardi, and probaly hundreds, if not thousands, of meteorologists, Globig thinks so too.

‘I find it quite plausible that Arctic ice will expand considerably over the next year,’ says Globig. ‘The influence of solar activity on climate has been criminally under-estimated.’

 ’We will really know what is in store for us in the next five to seven years,’ Globig believes. Indeed one thing appears to be very probable for meteorologists: ‘We will have to throw some climate forecasts into the dustbin.’

Today, I can practically tell who gets their longterm forecasts from whom. I went to a home & garden center today to buy a snow shovel – they were all sold out. The next shipment? At the end of January! How much worse can you get?

Tomorrow I will call the headquarters of this home & garden center to see if I can find out where they are getting their forecasts. I’ll bet you they are getting them from the warmist DWD German Weather Service.
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Update: Let’s throw this in, too! http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/12/1000-references-of-global-cooling.html (h/t Climate Scam)



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1 posted on 12/15/2010 10:45:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Someone call Peanut, he was 40-years early and now’s his chance. LOL


2 posted on 12/15/2010 10:49:05 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Globig sheds light on solar activity.
3 posted on 12/15/2010 10:49:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; Brad's Gramma; ...
Found this from looking at the Bishop Hill Blog.

Don't look for this to show up in your local news outlets.

4 posted on 12/15/2010 10:51:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh fur cryin’ outloud ...

can anyone say...

Eyjafjallajokull


5 posted on 12/15/2010 10:52:08 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

V-8 and V-12 engines for EVERYBODY, and $1/gallon for gas.

We can turn this ice age around.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 10:52:11 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The unraveling of the scam continues.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:16 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

8 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:21 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Death, Taxes and the Weather.. no getting around ‘em..

Looks like we got a good sized dose of wet&moist headed into the West Coast via Pineapple Express .. or so the forecasters are saying.. could be some real heavy stuff in areas..


9 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:36 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

10 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:42 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: EBH
can anyone say... Eyjafjallajokull

From experience I'd have to say no.

Eye - Arr - Fal - Lar - Yok - Ull

11 posted on 12/15/2010 10:55:26 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hmmmm, so we are back to global cooling now. Too bad I threw away my leisure suit, bellbottoms, and pet rock....dang.


12 posted on 12/15/2010 10:55:44 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: UCANSEE2

A turbocharger under every hood!


13 posted on 12/15/2010 10:56:12 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Attn. GOP: Deliver the goods, or we'll do to you what we did to the Dems!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I thought it was just hitting the Northwest...but this is the second day of really heavy cloud cover ...after that really nice almost Hot day last week.

My brother called from St. Louis and I told him the temp and he was ready to hop on the plane and escape their weather...was at 5 above zero...wind chill was much lower.

14 posted on 12/15/2010 10:58:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has turned cool also, which probably means a cool period for North America too. ‘Course, because of La Nina my neck of the woods and parts to the south are warm and dry this winter, so that's what will be cited as evidence of AGW.
15 posted on 12/15/2010 10:58:43 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Global warming, if it occurs, is a boon to most of us. A “Little Ice Age” could be disasterous.
16 posted on 12/15/2010 10:59:00 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If it weren't for global warming, we'd STILL be living in an ice age. But, wait a minute, there weren't any people around then on which to blame the climate change, so how could it have possibly happened???
17 posted on 12/15/2010 10:59:26 AM PST by jda
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just had this discussion with a liberal at the gym.. Ii is 18 degrees here , when the norm is around 40 and he is still crying global warming


18 posted on 12/15/2010 10:59:26 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: All

Go to this thread and look at the pictures of weather stations next to various heat sources.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2643034/posts


19 posted on 12/15/2010 11:00:30 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Lindsey Graham still believes...see this thread:

One Republican, Unhappy With His Party's Position on Carbon, Prepares a New Agenda (RINO ALERT)

20 posted on 12/15/2010 11:00:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually, that is a very good idea. The colder weather limits growing seasons and reduces crop yields.

Higher CO2 levels will not have an impact on the global temperature, solar output from the sun dominates global climates we are now finding out, but it can stimulate plant growth enough to offset some of the negative effects of the shorter, colder growing season on crop yields.

CO2 emissions are our friend, assuming we wish to prevent wide spread famine due to the reduced agricultural output from the colder, shorter growing seasons.


21 posted on 12/15/2010 11:01:58 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: EBH

Volcano winter. No, I can’t say Eyj-whatever. ;-)


22 posted on 12/15/2010 11:02:51 AM PST by TheOldLady ("Face it, Obama: You, too, were a useful idiot." - Lazamataz, who would hit it...with a brick.)
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To: RnMomof7

That’s because global warming leads to climate change, which can mean colder weather .... Duhhhhh ( sorry but I’ve actually heard this reply before)


23 posted on 12/15/2010 11:03:07 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: EBH
Eyjafjallajokull

Gesundheit.

24 posted on 12/15/2010 11:05:31 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Imagine that.

I submit tha Global Warming, or Anthropomorphic Climate Change, or whatever be the nomenclature du jour, is based on the same “science” as evolutionism.


25 posted on 12/15/2010 11:06:03 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: COBOL2Java

My new desktop background!!!


26 posted on 12/15/2010 11:06:18 AM PST by misanthrope (Liberals just plain suck!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

27 posted on 12/15/2010 11:06:22 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: HerrBlucher
Too bad I threw away my leisure suit

No - I took a poll last week and it's pretty much unanimous - we're all glad you threw away your leisure suit.

;-)

28 posted on 12/15/2010 11:06:29 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RnMomof7

> Ii is 18 degrees here , when the norm is around 40 and he
> is still crying global warming

Logic and observation have no effect on a true believer.


29 posted on 12/15/2010 11:07:55 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush’s Fault!


30 posted on 12/15/2010 11:09:11 AM PST by JRios1968 (What is the difference between 0bama and his dog, Bo? Bo has papers.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Our local forecast has 90% rain and heavy rain at times friday saturday and sunday , should be a real snow maker


31 posted on 12/15/2010 11:10:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
SUN GW
32 posted on 12/15/2010 11:16:10 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Waverunner
That's actually a pretty common "anthropogenic global climate change" argument.

It's called crap "snowjobberol"

33 posted on 12/15/2010 11:17:54 AM PST by TheOldLady ("Face it, Obama: You, too, were a useful idiot." - Lazamataz, who would hit it...with a brick.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Back around July or August someone predicted that Britain would have the coldest winter in a 1000 years. I wish I could remember who it was, but I do know for sure it wasn’t that idiot algore.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 11:19:02 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the ping.


35 posted on 12/15/2010 11:19:25 AM PST by TheOldLady ("Face it, Obama: You, too, were a useful idiot." - Lazamataz, who would hit it...with a brick.)
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To: jda
"so how could it have possibly happened???"

MAMMOTH FARTS........

36 posted on 12/15/2010 11:21:12 AM PST by sniper63 (Did you plug the hole in the border yet daddy........)
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To: steelyourfaith

ping


37 posted on 12/15/2010 11:23:20 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If the sun is going to be decreasing in activity, that means it’s going to start expanding, and the planet doesn’t have very long.

Is that what they’re implying? Because the surface of the sun already hasn’t been active for the previous 11+ years.


38 posted on 12/15/2010 11:25:44 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: RnMomof7

Just goes to show you can’t fix stupid.


39 posted on 12/15/2010 11:28:28 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: wastedyears
Well it has been active...just see this...FR Thread:

Global Eruption Rocks the Sun ( August 2010-- Must See Video )

40 posted on 12/15/2010 11:35:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
SunASK
41 posted on 12/15/2010 11:39:12 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Dropping this on here:

Borrowed from a poster at Watts Up With That?.

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Try this again
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Here are some websites
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GOES 14 Satellite of North America,tracking the
Storm at 22,000 miles up.

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Full Disc/East

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/overview2/color_lrg/latestfull.jpg
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Appalachians and Great Lakes Snow Conditions & Weather Map
(Change it to where you are!)

http://www.snow-forecast.com/maps/dynamic/appal
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Current Winds/Speeds/Direction
(Again,change it to your local)

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Wind/Current.aspx?location=USMI0545
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North American Radar Stations
U.S. NEXRAD and TDWR Radar Stations

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp

canopfor on December 12, 2010 at 7:50 PM

42 posted on 12/15/2010 11:42:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: FrankR

Thanks....Nice !


43 posted on 12/15/2010 11:42:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t be too quick to guess that we’re entering a new ice age. Here’s the logic.

Think about a greenhouse. A greenhouse is a little warmer than the average temperature of the ambient air. However, temperature fluctuation is moderated. That is, when it is cold outside, a greenhouse will only get cool. When it is hot outside, the greenhouse will only be warm.

The opposite of a greenhouse effect is like what is observed on the surface of the Moon. With no atmosphere, there is no greenhouse effect at all. So when something is in the shade, it becomes intensely cold, but when illuminated by the Sun, it becomes intensely hot—and very quickly. There is no moderation.

The atmospheric blanket that surrounds the Earth is called the thermosphere. Most of our atmosphere is in the thermosphere, but the two are not identical. The thermosphere is the part of our atmosphere that traps, and *moderates* heat.

Just like a greenhouse.

Mysteriously, the size of the thermosphere reduced considerably.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/15/earths-thermosphere-collapses-film-at-11/

“The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.”

That is, we suddenly lost a LOT of the Earth’s greenhouse effect.

So think about the Moon. With a loss of greenhouse effect, what we notice is the loss of *moderation* in the weather.

In effect, hotter summers and colder winters. Higher highs and lower lows.

This means that it is unlikely that we will quickly move into a roasting or freezing world. Sure, summers will be unusually hot, but it will be balanced with winters that are unusually cold.

That is, of course, if the thermosphere would stay at its radically reduced size. So that is what matters. No guarantees for the thermosphere doing about anything.

Because we don’t really know how it works too well.


44 posted on 12/15/2010 11:43:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL. Seriously, even if all the lefty nutters did an about-face and decided that that we’re in for man-made global cooling instead of warming, some politician would just find a way to use it as another excuse for more regulation (and a money-making scam). Everything is an excuse to enact more regulation, for politicians (and that includes many on the “right”, these days). They wouldn’t have an excuse to get paid if they just did what they’re supposed to-defend the country and protect our borders-and not a single other thing. But oh how wonderful life could be if they just left us the heck ALONE.


45 posted on 12/15/2010 11:43:54 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: NormsRevenge
I think the Express is delivering to the Bay Area:

Click here for the GOES Sat movie

And it is moving south...Yikes!!

46 posted on 12/15/2010 11:47:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It would be hard to believe he (Graham) has not been made aware of the what the green movement wants to accomplish. This whole mess is just that. Has he waded through the issue carefully. Perhaps he has but wants to create jobs.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 11:52:21 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Perhaps it's time for Time to rerun an old article.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 11:53:04 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fractal Trader; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; ...
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach & Fractal Trader !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

49 posted on 12/15/2010 11:58:18 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: All
Copy below for Full View of current GOES Satellite View.

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http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/overview2/color_lrg/latestfull.jpg

50 posted on 12/15/2010 12:10:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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