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Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
CBS News | CNet ^ | 1/7/10 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 01/07/2011 8:57:35 PM PST by LibWhacker

STANFORD, Calif. - President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.

That news, first reported by CNET, effectively pushes the department to the forefront of the issue, beating out other potential candidates including the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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To: LibWhacker
From Slashdot:

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/26/1247201/White-House-Unveils-Plans-For-Trusted-Identities-In-Cyberspace

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/25/national-strategy-trusted-identities-cyberspace

Full draft of the plan:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ns_tic.pdf

101 posted on 01/07/2011 11:10:56 PM PST by thecodont
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To: LibWhacker

Hey ZERO! You can pound sand it and then nail a board over it!


102 posted on 01/07/2011 11:12:05 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Birdsbane

Hey ZERO! You can pound sand and then nail a board over it!


103 posted on 01/07/2011 11:13:03 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It depends. If the ‘Big Brother were George Bush ....


104 posted on 01/07/2011 11:13:42 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: nutmeg

bttt


105 posted on 01/07/2011 11:14:29 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: thecodont

Thanks for the link — they don’t seem to explain why there is a need for a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT agency to administer it.

This is a blatant violation of privacy and abuse of executive powers. This would never pass any US Congress, so Obama is establishing it via an executive agency.

Congress needs to step in and stop it.

I bet one of the driving factors is exactly to intimidate and shut down conservative internet sites and discussion.


106 posted on 01/07/2011 11:16:51 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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107 posted on 01/07/2011 11:18:03 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: potlatch

DEAR LEADER

108 posted on 01/07/2011 11:20:09 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . Wagya for only $100 pound . . Gasoline for only $5.00 a gallon . .)
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To: libertarian27

Yep. If Obama’s government isn’t a Beast - I don’t know what is. And with all of the internet commerce - “can neither buy or sell without the mark” seems pretty, well, prophetic.


109 posted on 01/07/2011 11:21:45 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: devolve

If we only knew who is really pulling the leash of “Dear Leader” — it certainly isn’t Bo, the dog.


110 posted on 01/07/2011 11:22:13 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: LibWhacker

So you don’t have to identify yourself as an American citizen to vote (or be president) but you have to identify yourself if you surf the web....hmmmmm....oh...wait....I get it....both of those decisions favor democrat power grabs....makes sense now.


111 posted on 01/07/2011 11:24:08 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: LibWhacker
Unacceptable.

And, while ostensibly permitted by the current bastardized interpretation of the Commerce Clause it would still require the force of LAW, not regulation and executive fiat.

As always the US House of Representatives could prevent this by SPECIFICALLY forbidding any taxpayer dollars from funding it.

112 posted on 01/07/2011 11:24:17 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: ransomnote

So you don’t have to identify yourself as an American citizen to vote (or be president) but you have to identify yourself if you surf the web....hmmmmm.


Interesting connection!!!


113 posted on 01/07/2011 11:27:01 PM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: LibWhacker
Old idea meets new technology.


114 posted on 01/07/2011 11:27:06 PM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Innovative
I bet one of the driving factors is exactly to intimidate and shut down conservative internet sites and discussion.

Look at what some of the other tech sites and orgs are saying about this--who funds them? What are their political leanings?

http://www.law.stanford.edu/program/centers/cfis/#funding_and_support_policies

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/research

http://www.cdt.org/comments/cdts-comments-draft-national-strategy-trusted-identities-cyberspace

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/07/real-id-online-new-federal-online-identity-plan

If conservative voices are stilled by this, everyone's voice is stilled also.

115 posted on 01/07/2011 11:29:45 PM PST by thecodont
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To: mewykwistmas
...what safeguards will ensure that the Gov will not track what political sites you visit, books you read etc?

Uh, that's why they want to do this, isn't it?

116 posted on 01/07/2011 11:40:22 PM PST by Syncro
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To: bushwon
I believe there are dynamic ip addresses that do not link to an indivdual.

No IP, dynamic or static, can identify a person. They only identify a computer. But those records are kept, so a dynamic IP doesn't protect the identity of a computer. The ISP knows which box asked for a dynamic IP by its MAC address, and the MAC address is globally unique unless tampered with. Very few people know how to do that.

But it is technically possible to implement a system like one in airports, for example. Anyone can turn the laptop on and connect to a wireless hot spot. But the only page you get is the sign-on page. There you have to type your name and password, and then you will be allowed onto the network. This can be implemented by consumer level ISPs.

But business level ISPs can't do that. This is because too much communication in business occurs not between people but between computers. Those boxes need Internet access, but they aren't associated with any particular human, and they are not controlled by that human when they do their Windows updates or remote backup / rsync or web serving or SMTP mail or whatever.

One more possibility is to mandate that all US web sites only serve content to US visitors who are authenticated. But that will backfire because we'll be reading Asian news instead, and they are far less favorable to Obama than the local media. Google will go out of business, and Baidu will become #1 (we don't care what Chinese gov't collects about us, and neither does the Chinese gov't.)

117 posted on 01/07/2011 11:48:03 PM PST by Greysard
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To: potlatch; Jim Robinson; holdonnow; Innovative; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

118 posted on 01/07/2011 11:52:53 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . Wagya for only $100 pound . . Gasoline for only $5.00 a gallon . .)
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To: nutmeg

Thank you! It’s from a 1949 book by economist Melchior Palyi (title: “Compulsory Medical Care and the Welfare State”). Amazing to me how it can be even more relevant today than when he wrote it.


119 posted on 01/07/2011 11:59:08 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Kennard

“The next growth industry will be offshore VPN accounts.
... and Ubuntu”

When Ubuntu is outlawed only outlaws will run Ubuntu.


120 posted on 01/08/2011 12:00:21 AM PST by PastorBooks
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