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Hawaii governor claims record of Obama's birth 'exists' but can't produce the vital document
The Daily Mail ^ | 01/20/11

Posted on 01/20/2011 8:50:02 AM PST by MissesBush

Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there. Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said. But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate. And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii. Abercrombie was asked: 'You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?' He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have'. President Obama on a visit to Hickam Air Force Base in Honolulu in December. The issue of trying to prove he was born in Hawaii rumbles on 'It's a matter of principle with me,' the 72-year-old said. 'I knew his mum and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.' Birthers insist Obama, born in 1961, is not eligible to be commander in chief. The reasons often vary, and have changed and expanded in the two years since the Internet rumour began.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; certifigate; duplicate; naturalborncitizen; obamabirthcert; yesterday
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To: MissesBush

Hey Gov. NO tickee NO washee.


101 posted on 01/20/2011 2:02:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Discussed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2660511/posts


102 posted on 01/20/2011 2:04:23 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Abercrombie is the ONLY person who has made *that* claim.


103 posted on 01/20/2011 2:06:27 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

-PJ


Good Post.


104 posted on 01/20/2011 2:09:04 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: drpix

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


105 posted on 01/20/2011 2:10:26 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

why would she say that her grandson was born in Kenya, where she could have just as easily said that he was born at home in Honolulu?


Cuz she told the truth instead of telling a very messy lie ?


106 posted on 01/20/2011 2:11:01 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

But since this doc is citing 338.17.8 it cannot be the initial or original birth registration document.


Typed in / added later? It seems to be on a slightly different line ...


107 posted on 01/20/2011 2:13:00 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
What about this???

-----

It's an obvious fake. It's made from the below redacted image that appeared in this web article:

And that redacted image was, in turn, made from this blogger's old birth certificate.

There are marks in several boxes that establish this chain, but the most significant ones are in boxes 19a and 21.

Frankly, the document's lack of authenticity should be obvious from the typesetting alone. Typewriters don't haphazardly change their vertical positioning when filling out a form from left to right. But Obama's name, birthdate, and the statute reference at bottom are all over the place.

108 posted on 01/20/2011 2:13:12 PM PST by LorenC
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To: Fantasywriter

Personally, I think Abercrombie shot off his mouth without having a clue about the facts. He had no idea there was an issue—a huge one—with BO’s BC. I have thought this from the beginning. Mr. Aging Commie-Toker envisioned himself as a hero/giant-slayer. He, the great Abercrombie, would once and for all dispel the ‘birther’ myth, to the shame of those who have been asking only basic, reasonable questions, and to the everlasting gratitude of The One. It’s the kind of pipe dream he thought would earn him a place in history: the man who slew the ‘birther’ conspiracies, and paved the way for a triumphal Obama second term.

It blew up in his face. He’s come off sounding like a babbling ignoramus, and he’s opened Obama up to slews of escalating questions and ever-intensifying pressures.

Thank you, Abercrombie: you and your hippo mouth did for us what the knee-pad weasels in the MSM refused to do. You go, Gov—keep it up.


I also think that this is what happened.


109 posted on 01/20/2011 2:14:45 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: LorenC

Did anyone try to check the grandmother’s signature ?


110 posted on 01/20/2011 2:18:09 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: F15Eagle; Fantasywriter; little jeremiah; melancholy
Look, Abercrombie has now found Obama's genuine birth certificate!





Neil Abercrombie's Obama Birth Certificate

111 posted on 01/20/2011 2:18:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: MissesBush

If Hawaii had something that would put a stake in the heart of the birther thing, Katie Couric would have used it on national TV to show what a bunch of xenophobic assholes we conservatives are.

But they don’t, which is an entirely different story.

What was a conspiracy theory is now a legitimate question. If it’s in the archives, have someone go down there and get it by lunch and put this thing to bed today.

I predict a fire at the building where this thing is supposed to be in the very near future.


112 posted on 01/20/2011 2:20:37 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Red Steel

Haha. Looks like Hippo Mouth was one toke over the line when he forged that one.

Reefer madness: it’s not just for the teens-to-late-sixties crowd any more.


113 posted on 01/20/2011 2:30:53 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: RinaseaofDs
I predict a fire at the building where this thing is supposed to be in the very near future.
114 posted on 01/20/2011 2:33:14 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Manly Warrior; tumblindice; mojitojoe
He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have'.

Some truths are more equal than others. Those that have political implications, well, they get governors and high-priced lawyers to do their talking for them.

But really, Manly, how is it all the "birther" accusers get a media Free Pass as they turn the burden of proof onto those who question Barry Soetero's eligibility to be POTUS? No one else breathing air within Old Glory's confines is presumed to be a US citizen--let alone "natural born"--without proof.

By what contortion do Barry's apologists get away with standing that axiom on its head in attempting to cast the burden onto Barry's eligibility doubters to be required to cough up with proof of just whose citizen Barry might be, when it is he, who has had the authority to seal such records via Executive Order. Producing many related documents might well be ipso facto deemed a crime. Aren't Barry, his lawyers and media apologists just so ethical, honest and transparent (--NOT) in their attacks on those wascawy "birthers"?

HF

115 posted on 01/20/2011 2:44:17 PM PST by holden
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To: Paul Ross; Red Steel

Thank you.


117 posted on 01/20/2011 2:51:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MrB

Yes, they chickened out. And TX will too with Speaker Straus being so Democrat-oriented.


118 posted on 01/20/2011 2:59:34 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Paul Ross

Like I wrote in another post, I think Justice Roberts REALLY, really loves his wife and kids.

Just sayin’.


119 posted on 01/20/2011 3:39:43 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Sophia777

DUI.

Democrat Useful Idiot.


120 posted on 01/20/2011 3:40:58 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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