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Divers find antique gold chain worth $250,000
The Star ^ | 25 Mar 2011 | Sharon Wiley

Posted on 03/25/2011 8:10:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog

KEY WEST, FLA.—Shipwreck experts are evaluating a centuries-old-101-centimetre gold chain plucked from the sea floor while searching for a 17th-century sunken Spanish galleon off the Florida Keys.

The piece is tentatively valued at about $250,000. It is believed to be from the Nuestra Senora de Atocha, which sank during a 1622 hurricane. It was found Wednesday by divers from Mel Fisher’s Treasures about 55 kilometres west of Key West.

The chain has 55 links, an enameled gold cross and a two-sided engraved religious medallion featuring the Virgin Mary and a chalice.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: atocha; au; bling; godsgravesglyphs; gold; treasure
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To: catnipman
Man, I never find anything like that. Oh wait. We don’t have any oceans in Colorado.

Not to mention that the way the law is now, anything found on Federal land over 50 years old is a historic relic. If you threw a Coke bottle out the window of your Dad's car in the middle of the desert back in 1961 and decided to go back now, because of guilt, and pick it up to put it in the trash, you could be arrested for theft of a relic.

21 posted on 03/25/2011 8:46:05 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: maine-iac7
Gold links like that and in other styles were often used as a form of currency. Each link was a known weight and purity, and could be easily detached to purchase something.
22 posted on 03/25/2011 8:46:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Thanks for the pings, Islander7 and GeronL.

They also found a drawing of a young woman wearing it around her neck, and- wait, what?

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23 posted on 03/25/2011 8:47:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: smokingfrog

I used to work with a woman who is Mel Fisher’s niece. She had a coin from the Atocha that her uncle had given her. Really interesting stuff.


24 posted on 03/25/2011 8:58:10 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: SunkenCiv

The drawing would be worth more, wouldn’t it? lol


25 posted on 03/25/2011 9:16:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: smokingfrog

Oh, so THATS where I dropped it!


26 posted on 03/25/2011 9:21:22 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: maine-iac7
We are talking early 16th century ...;-)
27 posted on 03/25/2011 9:32:58 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: LibWhacker

bling bump


28 posted on 03/25/2011 9:34:55 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: ArmyTeach

Sorry - of course it was 17th century.


29 posted on 03/25/2011 9:36:17 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: maine-iac7

How so?

It seems to me to be a good use of wire to create heavy unsoldered links. The florets are well done and the cross and medallion are both very well done, especially the delicate inlay


30 posted on 03/26/2011 4:59:08 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: smokingfrog

So, if from the Atocha on its way back to Europe, it indicates either that the Spaniards had a significant operation going in the New World to refashion Indian gold into religious artifacts or that a piece of jewelry that made it from the Old World to the New World didn’t make the return journey.


31 posted on 03/26/2011 5:06:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: maine-iac7
That's a disappointment - craftsman wise.

Cotter pin gold craft?
32 posted on 03/26/2011 5:08:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Probably the blacksmith had no idea of the final use of the cotter pins.... was just given a chunk of gold and told get busy.

This is really neat.... not only spendable but can be used to send messages.


33 posted on 03/26/2011 6:10:38 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

-—— the blacksmith-——

The artisan was not a blacksmith, he was a goldsmith.


34 posted on 03/26/2011 6:18:39 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert
Goldsmith?

That's interesting.

35 posted on 03/26/2011 7:14:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: catnipman

***Man, I never find anything like that. Oh wait. We don’t have any oceans in Colorado.****

What? You have never heard of all that Spanish GOLD buried around Pagosa Springs and all those lost mines around Durango?

Are you living in a tent or a cave?


36 posted on 03/26/2011 7:20:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s been years since Mel Fisher found the Atocha. I’m surprised they are back on the wreck again and still finding stuff.

Or maybe this is just disinformation and they have a new shipwreck in play. That would be exciting.


37 posted on 03/26/2011 8:04:43 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Travis McGee
Hey, that is a neat piece of history I had never run across - thanks.

Maybe we should be looking into this as a bartering currency. Most of us couldn't do the gold - but silver. Necklaces with equal weighted links, easily detached. Most people would think it's just costume jewelry - hide our ‘bank account’ in plain sight? could even vary the pieces, for different worth - have a whole bartering system.

38 posted on 03/26/2011 11:08:18 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Travis McGee
Hey, that is a neat piece of history I had never run across - thanks.

Maybe we should be looking into this as a bartering currency. Most of us couldn't do the gold - but silver. Necklaces with equal weighted links, easily detached. Most people would think it's just costume jewelry - hide our ‘bank account’ in plain sight? could even vary the pieces, for different worth - have a whole bartering system.

39 posted on 03/26/2011 11:08:23 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7

It’s still being used as “coinage” even today. I read about it in the context of the millenial currency collapse in Argentina. Gold chains and bracelets were considered much more convenient to use than, say, “giant” one-ounce gold coins such as Krugerrands.

How do you “change” a Krugerrand worth $1,400 (today) at the corner black market? A few links of gold jewelry are perfect for buying groceries or gas during a bank closure etc.

(To even pull out a one-ounce gold coin at a black market could mark you for a home invasion or other robbery.)


40 posted on 03/26/2011 11:18:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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