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Scientists Abuzz Over Controversial Rumor that God Particle Has Been Detected
LiveScience.com ^ | 4/22/11 | Mike Wall

Posted on 04/22/2011 9:57:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

A rumor is floating around the physics community that the world's largest atom smasher may have detected a long-sought subatomic particle called the Higgs boson, also known as the "God particle."

The controversial rumor is based on what appears to be a leaked internal note from physicists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), a 17-mile-long particle accelerator near Geneva, Switzerland. It's not entirely clear at this point if the memo is authentic, or what the data it refers to might mean — but the note already has researchers talking.

The buzz started when an anonymous commenter recently posted an abstract of the note on Columbia University mathematician Peter Woit's blog, Not Even Wrong.

Some physicists say the note may be a hoax, while others believe the "detection" is likely a statistical anomaly that will disappear upon further study. But the find would be a huge particle-physics breakthrough, if it holds up.

"If it were to be real, it would be really exciting," said physicist Sheldon Stone of Syracuse University.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


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KEYWORDS: godparticle; hadron; higgsboson; lhc; rumor; scientists
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1 posted on 04/22/2011 9:57:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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This track is an example of simulated data modelled for the CMS detector on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN. Here a Higgs boson is produced and then decays into two jets of hadrons and two electrons. The lines represent the possible paths of particles produced by the proton-proton collision in the detector while the energy these particles deposit is shown in blue. CREDIT: CERN


2 posted on 04/22/2011 10:00:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
So what if it is real? What can you do with that knowledge? If you assume it is real, what will you do differently that matters? Does it justify the mountains of money spent building equipment to answer the question?
3 posted on 04/22/2011 10:02:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NormsRevenge
Nothing to add.

Just wanted to post.

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4 posted on 04/22/2011 10:02:37 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, son of a gun.


5 posted on 04/22/2011 10:02:41 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: NormsRevenge
God particle is not scheduled to make its appearance until May 21:

Fundamentalist-evangelical Harold Camping predicts rapture of 200 million on May 21, 2011

yitbos

6 posted on 04/22/2011 10:03:09 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Myrddin
We're a thousand years away from fusion, IMHO.

But, if we don't do the research, we're 1001 years away, and counting.

At some point, we have to think past our own lifetimes.
7 posted on 04/22/2011 10:09:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: bruinbirdman

I dunno, I figured it’d show up by Sunday morning...


8 posted on 04/22/2011 10:09:34 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s see...we are spending billions of dollars and thousands of man hours of highly educated people to try and find this little particle to show that all that we see could have happened be chance (dumb luck)...I fail to see the logic.

Even if it is found we then have to answer the next question...WHY.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 10:11:19 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: NormsRevenge

>> “If it were to be real, it would be really exciting,” said physicist Sheldon Stone of Syracuse University.

Now, how exactly would Stone know that he’d be excited without evidence of the particle’s existence? Hmm....


10 posted on 04/22/2011 10:11:27 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: NormsRevenge

This would be one of the primary physics discoveries of the last 30 years or so.

The stupid name of it sucks, but the Higgs Boson is a really amazing idea. It brings the entire universe closer to making all creation down to a few lines of formulas.

IMO, it might be as simple as -1=+1=0. And we’re in one of those sides which seems as real as anything, but in effect is nothing.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 10:15:47 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Myrddin

It is believe the “God Particle” is the missing link that would fill in the blanks for theoretical physics.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 10:16:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I wish that name would stop. It’s not that much more important than the Z and W bosons in the scheme of things, I think.

It’s a major thing though. Can we, as humans, understand the basic building blocks of reality and space/time?


13 posted on 04/22/2011 10:19:13 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: NormsRevenge
I am doing some reading on all of this. Seems like such a discovery could help unify relativity (big picture) and quantum theory (small picture).

The god particle somehow would explain how subatomic particles (virtual particles because they seem more like ideas than things) are connected or something.

This research is significant because they might lead to technology like instantaneous faster than light communication, the possibility of sending messages backward in time, how complex information in DNA and RNA first come into being, taping energy from empty space or perhaps shaping physical reality through consciousness.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 10:21:37 PM PDT by garjog
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To: NormsRevenge
Ahh...
But to get an unGodly number of particles
there is nothing like the
Spallation Neutron Source

But they will all be neutral...


15 posted on 04/22/2011 10:23:39 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Tolsti2

Sounds positively fractal.

:)


16 posted on 04/22/2011 10:24:32 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: NormsRevenge

The ironic thing is that the God particle is inherent in the nature of the universe if you follow.


17 posted on 04/22/2011 10:26:14 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: NormsRevenge
Do you think this discovery will make my VCR stop blinking 12:00?

It's really starting to get annoying.

18 posted on 04/22/2011 10:26:25 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: garjog

Like, they could actually beam us up?


19 posted on 04/22/2011 10:42:40 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: D-fendr

Indeed. heh.

Eventually these discoveries could lead to anti-gravity and far reaching energy demands. A huge interuption in this stuff was the cancelation of the SSC by the clinton admin, one of the worst mistakes in history was to push the IIS instead of the SSC.

Both were worthy and it’s hard to say which is really better, but I’d have opted for the SSC.


20 posted on 04/22/2011 10:45:47 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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