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Can We Prevent a Second Civil War?
JPFO ^ | 2011 | Kirby Ferris

Posted on 04/29/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Travis McGee
I believe it will come down something like this:


- Continuing escalation in prices for energy and food. This will reach a breaking point in the next year.
- Riots breaking out in major cities perhaps as early as this summer.
- Political gridlock relative to the budget and other fiscal matters.
- States edging close to bankruptcy.
- Continued slow motion collapse of the dollar and decrease in average American's purchasing power.
- A disruption in energy supplies causing panic and hording.
- Accelerating slowdown in the economy and simultaneous inflation.
- At some point the economic breaking point is reached and there is a transition to social disruption - led almost certainly by the forces of the left - unions, minorities, etc.
- A reaction by a relatively small group of patriots which will be brutally put down by police and military forces.
- Imposition of elements of martial law in various localities.
- Passage of emergency measures at the local,state and federal level.
- Shortages causing military-controlled rationing.
- Complete collapse of the dollar.
- Increasing repression - wide scale arrests and detentions.
- Confiscation of weapons under dire threat.
- A police state takes shape.
- The end of the American republic.

181 posted on 04/29/2011 3:14:10 PM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: Melas; ClearCase_guy; Dead Corpse; JimRed; I see my hands; super7man; owner; central_va; ...

>>The problem with this type of thinking is that despite a lot of blustery talk, who would know who to shoot?<<

Remembering that military forces fight with a ratio of 10 to 1, ten men are required to support every man on the front lines. So, mess with the supply lines, the communication towers and centers, electricity, supply trucks, tires, roads, etc.

Start from the top down, JimRed.

IMO, it should be common knowledge where the city, state and federal officials, the local, state and federal law enforcement officers live in your city or county, every single one of them! Do you know where your elected officials live?

It is not difficult to make someone live in fear for their lives as many of you already know. Making our elected local, county, state or federal officials acutely aware of that feeling is not a popular idea amongst the posters on this website but having the taste of acute fear in your mouth is not one quickly forgotten. Don’t go after them in their protected offices when their families are as vulnerable as our families are.

If our LEO’s or military troops under the orders of our elected local, county, state or federal officials ever administer violent treatment to US citizens then it should be returned in equal force to their superiors families.

I promise you that a single bullet through the kitchen window of the Mayors house will make for an excited dinner conversation. The Mayor will then understand exactly what he did when he ordered violence against his townspeople.

The Chief of Police’s wife should be entitled to explain to her husband what a wonderful job he’s doing if her home were to receive a copper jacketed message through her front door or her bedroom window.

There is no need to go after the street level officers, their bosses are the ones who issue the orders and they should be the ones whose homes receive the 1200+ fps messages.


182 posted on 04/29/2011 3:28:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: Melas; JimRed
who would know who to shoot?

I bet most of us could walk through town right now and with a high degree of accuracy pick out the ones who will be doing looting and killing.

But when the SHTF they will make themselves known in no uncertain terms. Especially when things first start to break loose.

They will be the ones looting the local stores and the houses on the next block, driving into our neighborhoods in caravans of packed cars waving their stolen weapons. They will be the ones dragging our neighbors out of their houses and beating them senseless.

When they come down our driveways or up to our homes we will know who they are and why they are there.


183 posted on 04/29/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: marktwain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9ysz_Hgb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3eJJiVwhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmohVRZ-U0


184 posted on 04/29/2011 3:33:11 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

A second Civil War won’t be triggered by incrementalist actions favored by liberals. Things would have to degenerate quickly and utterly for this to happen. The only thing I think that could actually cause real Americans is life-threatening reactions by ‘users’ and no-goods being deprived of their free lunches. Basically, full scale country-wide riots, vandalizing, looting, murder and havoc in reaction to loss of their free-rides caused by a total economic collapse.


185 posted on 04/29/2011 3:34:02 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Melas
So far, I’ve yet to see a decent explanation of who would be the targets in this civil war ...

The targets are "Anyone who tries to take your stuff. Some will have badges and uniforms; some will not.".

186 posted on 04/29/2011 3:39:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain
"Survival Tip: Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."

-- General James N. Mattis, USMC


187 posted on 04/29/2011 3:41:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; marktwain; Mr. Jeeves; Travis McGee
March 23rd, 1775:

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me Liberty, or give me death!”

188 posted on 04/29/2011 3:55:21 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Travis McGee
Up...
189 posted on 04/29/2011 3:57:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

HA-ha!


190 posted on 04/29/2011 3:59:05 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: B4Ranch

You can’t seriously be suggesting that anyone take pot shots at the mayors wife. Really?


191 posted on 04/29/2011 4:03:13 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

No, not at her. Aim at her front door, the place her husband has always said is safe from the little people. Show her that her home is just as vulnerable to attack by outsiders as our homes are.


192 posted on 04/29/2011 4:20:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: CodeToad

Agree, the economy is going to get us started. Even now, the Feds must double the taxes on the middle class to balance the budget - cannot happen without total revolt, resort to barter, and permanent strikes by non-union, disgusted and dropping-out Galtists.


193 posted on 04/29/2011 4:38:02 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: marktwain

The fight looks like it will be between the hard working people who know what is being down to them versus the government and all the people supporting them. But on the side there seems to be a lot of nations outside the United States looking to take advantage of our crisis. So expect them to not sit back while we fight.


194 posted on 04/29/2011 4:43:59 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: marktwain

I meant done not down.


195 posted on 04/29/2011 4:45:09 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: marktwain

How many patriots can fit in Texas. Will we need more land? Maybe we could have the entire West excluding the Left Coast.


196 posted on 04/29/2011 5:02:50 PM PDT by oiler (I ONLY watch FOX NEWS because "Media Matters". West/Bachmann 2012)
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To: redgolum
I find it odd that those who don't believe in a God who is just, do believe that the earth can attack those who don't worship Al Gores cult of global warming.

I don't have any belief in a God or Gods (just or otherwise), and I certainly don't believe in Gaia! Tornadoes, floods, and other natural disasters are just that...natural. There is not, and never has been, any conscious thought behind them. The universe and its many challenges are simply obstacles to be overcome. If we do, we prosper. If we don't, we die. It's really as simple as that.

197 posted on 04/29/2011 5:36:28 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: marktwain

I think some famous old dude once said, “You won’t need the second amendment until they try to take it away from you.”


198 posted on 04/29/2011 6:26:17 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: traditional1

when you talk of 4th generation welfare life styles you are missing a huge part of the proplem, that’s government workers whoi by and large are overpaid. They are on government workfare.

The tipping point will come when God says its here.

I think it starts with union thugs attacking TEA Party demostrations at the behest of the democrat party.

Because if we really wanted to stop what is going on and I mean right now. All we need is for PAlin or Bachmann to say come to DC and let’s shut down the city, all city’s for that matter.


199 posted on 04/29/2011 6:34:02 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: super7man

>>Please undersand, I am not being provocative. I have a hard time seeing how we can succeed without it ending up being worse.

I still think we have time within the system. At least until 2012.<<

Who is creating the situation we now have? What you and I would term as “the establishment”, right? Then we need to demolish the “the establishment” before they succeed in obtaining their NWO and demolish our American way of life.


200 posted on 04/29/2011 6:37:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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