Posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by kiryandil
You knew I had pocket rockets, right? How often have you seen me come up with something on The Ticker without a fairly-decent set of evidence behind what I had to say?
It's time to call the curtain on this game and then go back to economics.
Find me one typewriter in the world, anywhere, that can perform kerning and I will believe this "certificate" is real.
For the uninitiated, "kerning" is the process of manipulating the spacing of letters to make the appearance more pleasing. Here's an example from this Ticker itself:
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1595
This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is. With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with knowledge of what the previous one was.
A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device. It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character and the impression. It has to, lest letters run together and look like utter crap.
Typesetters (offset printing machines and similar) perform kerning - in fact, it's part of typesetting. But typewriters do not, cannot, and never have.
This, of course, is why the typed Birth Certificate has kerned text in it.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1598
Oh, and before you say "that's an artifact of what the White House did with their automated process", here's the same thing on the AP copy, which is a simple picture scanned in, with no post-processing of materiality I can detect and no layers.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1597
Oh darn.
Incidentally this is not the only example, as I show in the video.
To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future.
I'm sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. "sloppy carriage") for these results. But at the end of the day, here's the point: Exactly how many of these "explanations" have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document? Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance.
How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?
Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby. There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year. There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more "pretty" than any other kid's, or for any sort of special treatment. Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.
What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?
Now about that forensic analysis we should have done on the alleged document that allegedly is in the files at the Hawaii Registrar's office in order to see if it's really 50ish years old..... This is the only way we are going to get the truth. Will the American people, Congress, or someone (e.g. a judge) demand defensible truth on this topic? We damn well should.
(I think that's my pot in the center of the table. Would you help me push the rather-large pile of chips over here please?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yVkL94_BU
PS: This is exactly how Dan Rather got caught - typography that was impossible to produce using the alleged tool the "document" was created with.
So why are you even responding to them all?
;-)
Why?
Birthers need to show something demonstrating that he has.
Where's the proof that any story he's told is true? Gore, Bush, Kerrey, we KNEW their lives and had records. Where's Barry's?
As I understand it, any adoption done in Indonesia under Indonesian law does not carry legal weight in the US.
Do you know WHERE he was adopted? Neither does anyone else. We ONLY know that he used Soetoro in Indonesia.
Where are his records? Why do you buy the fantasy/edited version?
If the long form COLB says “African” that is wrong and the document is a fake, because the ‘guidelines’ (The Pirates code is more of a guideline really) said it should be “Negro”.
If the long form COLB says anything OTHER THAN “African” that is wrong and the document is a fake, because the short form COLB says “African” also - and the info on the short form is supposedly TAKEN FROM the long form!
You see, either way this worked out it would be iron clad “proof” that the long form COLB is a fraud!!!!!
For myself I predicted long ago to any birther who with wailing and gnashing of teeth would cry out “If he just released the long form this would all go away!!!!!” that any such release of a long form COLB would only elicit two responses....
1) it is fake, of course it is fake, if it wasn't fake why wouldn't he have released it by now. It is not just a fake (that they worked on apparently for two years) it is so obviously a fake that amateur photoshoppers on the internet can tell you so!
2) 0bama isn't a natural born citizen ‘even if born in the Lincoln bedroom’ because his father was not a citizen at the time of his birth (or ever for that matter).
It would be nice if being shown to be correct gave me solace, but no.............
In the vain hope that FR won’t be taken over by Birther fools.
Hey, I asked you why you are fighting so badly to prove a phony “killianed” document that was first photoshopped on Daily Kos in ‘08 as the first COLB is real.
You see, if his daddy really IS Hussein senior, then he is not legitimately in office.
The truth would be nice, but Obama and truth are polar opposites.
Remember, he stated that he has ‘always’ supported the 2nd amendment, yet he has also stated that he has aims on destroying gun ownership.
It cannot be both.
I’m fine with Palin. Love her. But show me the real long form and all the rest of the missing records and then this particular issue would be history.
I'm sorry but I have to go. Have a lovely evening.
Have you spoken to the site owner about this?
A few times, yes.
You’re confused. My pointing out that a rumor is demonstrably false in no way indicates support for Obama or his lies.
I refute demonstrably false information on FR about Obama because it makes ALL of us look like fools when it’s repeated ad nasuem.
There’s enough dirt on Obama to fill up the beach of the Gulf of Texas. Let’s focus on that.
Did it ever occur to you that people who actually do support and work for Obama may have cooked up all these rumors to demonstrate how gullible you are or to make you look like an idiot? They laugh and slap each other on the back every time they read FR and see birthers repeating their lies and misinformation.
FReepers are better than that. You should WANT to know if you have bad or false information. You should be thankful that someone is willing to take the heat that your little group is dishing out to make sure the truth sees daylight.
But, sadly, you’ll go on calling me an Obot troll rather than look in the mirror and realize that you’ve been duped - not by me - but by the real Obot trolls.
It’s not too late. Nobody owns the truth. You can look it up just as easily as I can. Then I don’t have to be involved at all.
The State of Hawaii has vouched for the document and its provenance. Why would it do so? And why couldn't a clean copy have been made, rather than this horrible PDF which clearly is made up of separate parts, parts that show technical anomalies and anachronisms?
Be it as it may, the Kenyan usurper has admitted to Kenyan citizenship, and indeed, this dubious document vouches for such dual citizenship. That puts a cloud over his claim of natural born citizenship. That cloud must be cleared, and it can only be done by the production of all passports and visas; clearly, it would be best if a cleaner copy of the natal records could be found, but it appears to me that we won't get anything better than this highly dubious PDF.
Everyone in the US with the exception of the Birthers understand the document to be valid.
If you don't believe that the document is valid, well that is your problem.
Good luck getting anywhere with it.
Yuo need to prove that with one foreign born father and an underage mother he qualifies.
Law is against that one.
Then it's settled.
There's no way BHO will win the election and become President now, eh?
LOL.
Defending a proven liar that is bent on the destruction of the country doesn't endear you to many.
Again, I don't buy anything he says or claims as nothing can be proven.
Did it ever occur to you that people who actually do support and work for Obama may have cooked up all these rumors to demonstrate how gullible you are or to make you look like an idiot? They laugh and slap each other on the back every time they read FR and see birthers repeating their lies and misinformation.
Did it occur to you that King George and his cronies had a good laugh at the idea that the Colonials could beat the Empire?
They laugh at all the bitter clingers anyway. Are you afraid you won't be invited to lunch? Do you think ANYONE cares what a bunch of elitist socialists think?
Brave conservatives CONFRONT their lies and keep calling them LIARS.
Excellent summary!!! Saved me all that “typing”!! Thank you.
And it is not fake because you say it is not. Explain why Hawaii refused to certify Obama as eligible? Why did they legislature recently pass a law that defacto sealed all birth certificates?
There is more evidence that people live on the moon than there is evidence of Obama’s origins.
Yes, brave conservatives do confront the liars with their lies but not by confronting them with demonstrably false information. If you want the world to believe you’re credible, don’t regurgitate debunked rumors.
Don’t deflect. This dicussion has nothing to do with King George and the colonialists. It’s about birthers shooting themselves in the foot by repeating misinformation.
They were unsuitable for typing, but could be used in a manual mode, not dependent on the magnetic card reader. And yes, I know the difference between kerning and proportional spacing. But it’s my recollection that the later IBM selectrics were good enough to tuck in W and A, and other combos. I don’t want to split hairs, but only point out that the simple argument about typewriters not kerning is not absolutely true. Remember, the Obots will pick any flaw in an argument to build their fortress around.
It has EVERYTHING to do with ridicule by elitists and YOU brought that up, not me. I don't give two hoots in a handbasket what deluded liberal fools think of me. And neither do you! I don't know why you even said it. DC yuks it up at the "rubes" anyway.
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