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Dramatic footage shows moment Iraq war vet was shot 70 times in home
UK Daily Mail ^ | 5/27/11 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 05/27/2011 11:44:07 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

VIDEO AT LINK

A U.S. Marine who was killed when he was gunned down in his home near Tucson, Arizona, never fired on the SWAT team that stormed his house firing 70 times in a hail of bullets, a report has revealed.

The revelation came as dramatic footage of the shooting was released, showing the armed team pounding down the door of Jose Guerena's home and opening fire.

The father-of-two, who had served twice in Iraq, died on May 5 after the SWAT team descended on his home believing it was one of four houses associated with a drug smuggling operation.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; fourthamendment; invasion; swat
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To: dangus
You keep defending this based on the warrant. I have heard several versions as to why the warrant has not been released; one version is that it was a “blanket” warrant that covered several locations and was based on really old intel and unreliable CI’s (the Marine just moved into this home a few months ago). It may even turn out to have been an illegal warrant. Time will tell.

My observations from the video leads me to believe this is a really undisciplined crew. A couple of these clowns were really casual until the shooting started, and it didn't really get any better after that. Maybe its because they are typically roughing up women and children, shooting dogs, terrorizing non-violent pot smokers, etc. (or fantasizing about being commandos on the Afghan frontier).

Their actions on the objective may also tell you that they bring that same work ethic to developing intel and making decisions on how to approach problems PRIOR to getting out of the truck. At a minimum this was negligent homicide and I hope the county goes bankrupt over this. Maybe the citizens of that dump will then make some leadership changes.

If this SWAT team, or others like it, ever encounter determined resistance, it will turn out very differently. Very sad.

121 posted on 05/27/2011 1:43:55 PM PDT by labusiness
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To: dangus

No need to argue their case for them. I’m just accepting what Sheriff dingbat had to say on the matter. He’s got a loud siren and flashing lights.


122 posted on 05/27/2011 1:43:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dangus

Before everyone presumes that the warrant was baseless:

The lawyer that the widow hired is a CRIMINAL DEFENSE lawyer, known for defending organized criminals. Isn’t that strange?

I don’t believe that means that she or her husband are guilty of anything. But I do believe it could mean that she may be aware of some basis for the warrant having been issued, and she wants to keep that down.


123 posted on 05/27/2011 1:44:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: muawiyah
Sorry, he was correct to not fire ~ he was overwhelmed from the very beginning ~

Yes, I know. I would not have fired either....

124 posted on 05/27/2011 1:45:33 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Truth is a Weapon
Does the selective, random intensity of enforcement seem crazy to anyone else?

As the old saying goes, "Money do talk."

125 posted on 05/27/2011 1:46:20 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!)
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To: Moonman62

The lead officer holding the shield fell. At the same time, one of the early rounds detached a piece of structure that hit one of the other officers. From that the conclusion was that the fire was two ways. That misstatement was quickly corrected.


126 posted on 05/27/2011 1:48:25 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

if this was still the old west, this guy’s buds from his outfit, would have already enacted old west justice on those so called LEOs, who are nothing more than murderers.


127 posted on 05/27/2011 1:50:06 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Moonman62

You’ve really cornered the market on stupid comments on this thread.

How the HE11 did he know what was coming through the door???


128 posted on 05/27/2011 1:51:12 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Fido969

She said a number of things in that interview. She also said she saw him carrying the gun as he left the bedroom and wondered where he’d gotten it.


129 posted on 05/27/2011 1:53:35 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: muawiyah
That undoubtedly adjusted his position as well as the location of the rifle.

From the wife's statement, who was isolated with 2 police investigators (even before she knows her husband is dead, they told her during the interview) trying to trip her up:

Q: Did he have any guns with him?

A: Well, that's the one I knew he had the small one [a Colt .38 revolver] he got it over at the, what's it called, gun show or something.

Q: OK. A gun show?

A: Yeah that's all I know he had.

Q: OK.

A: And I no where, where he got that big ol' gun [ the rifle] I don't know, the first thing, like the SWAT team drop it, or anything, [or something?] next to him, you know what I mean?

Q: Right

A: And when I see him on the floor I say "Jose, what's going on? What is that gun doing on next to you?"

130 posted on 05/27/2011 1:54:26 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Longdriver
We have dozens of threads on this case. If you bothered reading them you'd learn something.

One of the first things I did was establish that the Indiana court's ruling was not at all consistent with the facts of the case. The second thing I did was establish that the method used by the judge to examine the case IS consistent with current and traditional standards used in Shariah Law.

That last point regarding Shariah is very relevant to this case. The judge was lead counsel for the defense side for the prisoners at GITMO for 8 years. He had more than enough close contact with Moslem radicals to think he may have gone over!

So, punk, I'm after the judge for being an AlQaida adjunct and you think this has something to do with me being a jack booted thug lover?

Let me suggest this one time ~ you attack me on the points I've made on this case with knowledge of what has been posted before by me and others or I will ask that you be removed from FR PERMANANTLY.

Frankly, I don't think you're smart enough to discuss the big letters on my jockstrap ~ even close up eh!

131 posted on 05/27/2011 1:56:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Roccus
Again.....5 seconds between the knock and the break-in.

The SWAT attorney claimed it was 45 seconds. He should have consulted his own evidence.

I didn't see any flashing lights, either.

132 posted on 05/27/2011 1:57:10 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!)
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To: dangus

THIS also is news to me:

Everyone’s been writing as if the absence of drugs in the house is somehow proof that the SWAT team had no business going into Guarena’s home.

Turns out that they weren’t looking for drugs. They claim they were investigating ARMED, HOME INVASIONS. Ironic, huh? For now, the warrant is sealed, but that’s something which could easily be verified by any court. What’s more, it’s entirely consistent with what the police DID find: portions of a law enforcement uniform, body armor, weapons. All potentially legal, but exactly the evidence THEY CLAIM they were looking for.

Keep in mind, the person the widow contacted to handle this case is a CRIMINAL DEFENSE lawyer.


133 posted on 05/27/2011 1:59:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Fido969

Hmm ~ so many questions and so few answers. I think Sheriff dipstick screwed his guys with his blaring siren claim.


134 posted on 05/27/2011 1:59:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ole Okie
I didn't see any flashing lights, either.

I saw a bunch of idiots riding up to a house, listening to the music on the radio. Some moron in a due rag driving. They jump out and perform the worst home invasion on video record. If that is what passes for SWAT level officers, who are the best of the best (snicker), America is screwed. Looked like they were going to a bar. I'll say again, I've seen paintball teams with more discipline.

135 posted on 05/27/2011 2:06:16 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: dangus

A criminal defense attorney, and the one the family chose is a good one, would be the best choice to conduct an investigation into this matter for the family at this juncture. Other attorneys most likely will be brought in at a later point to conduct the civil matter.


136 posted on 05/27/2011 2:06:19 PM PDT by labusiness
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Mark for later


137 posted on 05/27/2011 2:07:43 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: ArmstedFragg
She also said she saw him carrying the gun as he left the bedroom and wondered where he’d gotten it.

No, she didn't. She was responding to the police suggestions. The police told her (the lie) that he had opened fire on them. She said "where did you get that gun" was mixed up with her confusion - she said that AFTER he was shot. She immediately clarifies her statement about what she saw when he left the bedroom:

Q: He came out of the room and he had the gun in his hand?

A: No, no when I saw him he was wearing this, his shorts, and I don't know where he got that. [answering how he was found with a gun] I thought, I don't know. I don't know where he got the gun.

She didn't actually see him with the gun until he was shot. The police were lying to her about what happened and trying to trip her up so she would make a confused statement they could say corroborated their cover-up.

138 posted on 05/27/2011 2:07:43 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Mark for later


139 posted on 05/27/2011 2:08:47 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: daniel boob

“but the court case will hinge on the AR-15”

I agree, but,, the case should be made that the Swat assault was beyond all reason, and should never have taken place. Gross malfeasance!


140 posted on 05/27/2011 2:17:26 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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