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Armed and extremely dangerous' ex-militia leader hunted after Mont. Shootout
MSNBC.com ^ | June 14, 2011 | Associated Press, Reuters, NBC News and msnbc.com staff

Posted on 06/14/2011 1:43:04 PM PDT by Teotwawki

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To: sam_paine

I truly wish there were more of folks like yourself.

It’s really hard to get people to understand what is happening to America.

Sad really.


81 posted on 06/14/2011 3:51:53 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cripplecreek

So? If he starts damaging your property or your own individual freedom, shoot him like any other criminal.

Or is that too “anarchistic” for you? Being responsible for yourown defense?


82 posted on 06/14/2011 4:13:29 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: muawiyah
An arbitrary infringement is an arbitrary infringement. What next? A limit on Congregation sizes? How many words a book can have?

It seems ridiculous, but the logic is the same.

83 posted on 06/14/2011 4:17:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Teotwawki
"He's a danger to anyone he meets," Dominick said.

This statement raises red flags. All his priors are for ownership of "illegal" firearms not for any sort of violence. This time LEOs were called in because he was driving erratically; then, he ran a stop sign. Yes, he supposedly shot at the LEOs, but given his statements about not being taken down again, it's not surprising. Then, of course, there's the history LEOs have of claiming the other guy shot first regardless of what actually happened. If the guy is indeed a paranoid schizophrenic, that doesn't mean he's dangerous even if he's armed.

The whole "he's a danger" claim sounds like an excuse.

84 posted on 06/14/2011 4:18:37 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Dead Corpse
Or is that too “anarchistic” for you? Being responsible for yourown defense?

Actually he talks about taking what he wants from others and killing all the "mud people".
85 posted on 06/14/2011 4:20:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: RobRoy

“When hundreds of thousands lose their unemployment benefits and a fraction - say, 2% of them - do this sort of thing, it will go down differently.”

Yes, sir.

When the LA cops were confronted with a mob throwing bottles and bricks, the big, brave boys in blue got in their squads and drove home. Cops are more interested in staying alive to collect their pensions. That’s a fact. Read any cop blog.

What saved LA property and people were Korean citizens sitting on rooftops with rifles.

Ignore these FR surrender monkeys who think that fat, bloated cops, intensely interested only in themselves and their pensions, will goosestep through American neighborhoods, disarming millions of citizens.

These white flag wavers are invested in gloom and doom and aren’t paying attention to reality or facts.


86 posted on 06/14/2011 4:20:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: AppyPappy

Yeah, well 2 tours in Nam, pal so I don’t need any advise from you! So bite it, any further posts from you will just be ignored!!!


87 posted on 06/14/2011 4:22:51 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: sam_paine

That is the definition of the classic Terror. Fanatics blowing up airplanes is not Terror nor is knocking down skyscrapers full of people. The government using random violence against the people for the purpose of making opposition impossible to coalesce is The Terror. Its goal is to make all withdraw into themselves and render silent compliance It is coming here. I used to think that my children wold live to see it. Now I fear that I will.


88 posted on 06/14/2011 4:25:35 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: cripplecreek

Talk is talk. If he acts, shoot him. Simple.


89 posted on 06/14/2011 4:26:51 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: sam_paine

Good thing the resistance in France against the Germans didn’t hear your idea.


90 posted on 06/14/2011 4:39:34 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: arthurus

“said that Project 7 also conspired to kill local police officers, judges and
county prosecutors.
This seems to be the standard package of crap thrown in for arrests or
propaganda involving militia personalities or “militia types.””

In the past years I wouldn’t have doubted the cops story, but I am seeing incredible abuses piling up, and a weirdly militarized police forces. Gone are the days of the friendly cops that one trusts. They mostly seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder, and I think they are mostly being trained as an oppressive paramilitary force, not as “peace officers” - you know, officers that would ‘keep the peace’ - it used to be that the cops tried to peacefully defuse a situation, not ramp it up with insane shows of force against grandmothers and anyone else who gets in their way.

I’ll wait and see too. I hope cops will go back to being citizens just like the rest of us, not this weird us and them mentality we have now.


91 posted on 06/14/2011 4:54:14 PM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

That is quite a list of accusations for a guy who is free and not doing several life sentences. Makes you wonder how strong those accusations were.


92 posted on 06/14/2011 5:10:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You aren’t the only one.


93 posted on 06/14/2011 5:17:02 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: sergeantdave
Still waiting on Chucky Schumer to come up with that machine gun he promised us ~ he never did so far.

Really, a machinegun is just one of those things that you can't mistake for some other thing.

94 posted on 06/14/2011 5:52:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dead Corpse
You ever fire a REAL AUTOMATIC WEAPON that's belt fed?

It's really, really good to have been trained in its use.

So you are standing there holding the thing up in the air with about lebenteen gazillion pounds of lead slung around your body, and maybe somebody to help you feed the belt up over your shoulders and you start firing IT WILL ROTATE.

Depending to some degree on your strength and weight it will rotate UP or it will rotate DOWN but it will rotate, and that first time it will rotate in ways you didn't imagine.

Grenades are safer for untrained personnel to use ~ which is why I don't want the government to issue you a machinegun. On the other hand I'm qualified and may have a use for it so I want mine!

Frankly the laws regarding machineguns are wrong. It's a self-regulating device, and your heavier machineguns, which are the best ones, really do require a support team.

The light machineguns, which are nearly useless except for building guard duty, were the ones the restrictive laws were aimed at. With higher powered ammunition, better rifles, better targeting systems ~ a guy with a semi-automatic probably has much real firepower as a light machinegun from the WWI era.

95 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Really, a machinegun is just one of those things that you can’t mistake for some other thing.”

That is nearly the most obvious statement I’ve seen posted all day.

It’s like Mark Twain said 150 years ago about the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.


96 posted on 06/14/2011 6:30:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: sergeantdave
Thank you.

In my experience I've found your average person has no idea what a machine gun is really about ~ or all that lead and brass.

97 posted on 06/14/2011 6:39:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vigilanteman

**The federalists got themselves into a heap of hurt by going after this early Montana militia leader.****

Yep. He was later killed by one of his own people working as Indian police.


98 posted on 06/14/2011 7:19:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS!)
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To: LibertyLA

They are being trained for Terror.


99 posted on 06/14/2011 7:52:54 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: muawiyah

M-2, M60-E3, Thompson, M-16 A2, suppressed Uzi, MP5-K....

Yeah, I’ve shot a few. Half of them AFTER my enlistment was up. There is nothing requiring any more training than parking a boat trailer, lighting a pilot light on a gas waterheater, or rebuilding a carburetor would need.

It isn’t rocket surgery...


100 posted on 06/14/2011 8:10:17 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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