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U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
Forbes.com ^ | Jun. 7 2011 - 2:04 pm | Larry Bell

Posted on 06/15/2011 12:42:05 PM PDT by justlittleoleme

It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.

While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:

1. Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership.

2. Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course).

3. Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).

4. Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.

5. In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.

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To: justlittleoleme

The Democrats, Obama, and Hillary are pushing this one. Republicans better try to block this in the Senate and if the Dems in the Senate know whats good for them, they will block it too.


61 posted on 06/15/2011 8:17:43 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Grunthor
Your argument is not original. I am gonna take it down like a porn star arguing with a two year old over where babies come from.

1. Nukes are an entirely different class of weapon. They are weapons of mass destruction.
2. The gubment could no more use those on an American city or town than it could anywhere else in the world. It is a very silly argument.

How about a fully functional carrier battle group if I could afford one? The logic of the 2nd amendment says that if I could afford a fully battle ready carrier battle group, the only reason the gubment could not take it away from me is because I had a fully functional carrier battle group.

The problem with you is you don't like the second amendment. Don't be mad at me because I tell you what it is designed to do.

So as I said, plenty of Freepers don't like the 2nd amendment. You I will count as one of those.

62 posted on 06/15/2011 9:01:50 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Pox

Amen, Brother.

Semper Fi.


63 posted on 06/16/2011 12:05:14 AM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Osage Orange

Yes my opinion, never said it was from a study or factual. Just like your comment an opinion.


64 posted on 06/16/2011 5:40:40 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They will probably do it at the same time they take your guns, gov is lazy they will not want to make two trips.


65 posted on 06/16/2011 5:43:21 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: sergeantdave

How many of the officers will disobey a direct order, not many.


66 posted on 06/16/2011 5:44:34 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: B4Ranch

Who knows what they will do when it hits that stage.


67 posted on 06/16/2011 5:45:53 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: DariusBane

“The problem with you is you don’t like the second amendment.”

No, I think the second amendment is the backbone of the Constitution. I also happen to think that no, you nor anyone else should be allowed to own a carrier battle group.

Or a LAW rocket.

Or a .50 cal automatic, with or without tripod.

Or a grenade.


68 posted on 06/16/2011 7:19:34 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

As I said, you don’t like the 2nd amendment.

Lexington and Concord were about large bore crew served military weapons. Not sporting arms.

Don’t tell me you respect the 2nd amendment when you reject the very premise on which is was founded.

Keep arms. That means I can buy arms, and keep arms. Bear arms. That means I can have them on my person.

Let me ask you again. Should I be required to have a permit or a license of some kind to drive to the grocery store with a revolver in my belt?

Should the government be “allowed” to tell me that I cannot have a fully auto m-4 carbine in the tool box of my pickup truck? When you read the enumerated powers of the constitution where do you see the power to tell me what kind of weapon I can have or can’t have?

The feds use the commerce clause. But they use commerce clause for everything imaginable.


69 posted on 06/16/2011 7:48:06 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

“Should I be required to have a permit or a license of some kind to drive to the grocery store with a revolver in my belt?”

Should convicted felons be allowed to own firearms?


70 posted on 06/16/2011 7:57:54 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: DariusBane

“Should the government be “allowed” to tell me that I cannot have a fully auto m-4 carbine in the tool box of my pickup truck?”

No, they shouldn’t have that power.


71 posted on 06/16/2011 7:58:58 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

Convicted Felons. Our government is a felon factory. So I am no longer sure about my position on that.

The States have no constitutional restriction on this issue.


72 posted on 06/16/2011 12:28:05 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Grunthor

So I don’t see the connection between the question on whether or not I can carry open or concealed and the felon issue. They are not connected.


73 posted on 06/16/2011 12:30:24 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

The connection is, is YOU can carry open (a right which I do support) and the government has zero authority to regulate the practice, what is keeping a convicted felon from doing the same thing? I mean, It’s not forbidden in the Bill of Rights, is it?


74 posted on 06/16/2011 12:44:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

I can only carry it if I apply for a permit. Last time I checked a permit is asking permission.

the Bill of Rights says nothing about a permit. Most places in This Land of Liberty, if I were to walk around with a revolver in my belt the Police would shoot me first, then ask for my permit.

That is WRONG WRONG WRONG!


75 posted on 06/16/2011 1:15:10 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

If the Police think I am a felon carrying a weapon, they must have probable cause, then get a warrant.


76 posted on 06/16/2011 1:27:23 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

“Lexington and Concord were about large bore crew served military weapons. Not sporting arms.”

Right you are.

If I recall history correctly, Col. Moultrie and his 1st and 2nd South Carolina battalions, who defended Charleston from the British fleet on Sullivan’s Island in June, 1776, hauled his personal 9 and 12 pound cannons from his barn and used them to blast the enemy frigates from the fort’s palmetto ramparts. More than 250 British were killed, while Moultrie’s battalions suffered minimum casualties.

Sometimes, large weapons are needed.


77 posted on 06/16/2011 3:15:28 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: sergeantdave

That was the intent of the second amendment. Yet today EVERYTHING concerning the distribution and sale, design, function and ownership of weapons is regulated.

It is so far from the intent of the 2nd Amendment as to be laughable.


78 posted on 06/16/2011 3:24:39 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

“Yet today EVERYTHING concerning the distribution and sale, design, function and ownership of weapons is regulated.”

Which is why every American should know where the nearest federal armory is located in their neighborhood and what’s contained therein...


79 posted on 06/16/2011 6:02:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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