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Dignified? It was like an execution chamber: Daughter who took her mother to die at Dignitas
UK Daily Mail ^ | 6/18/11 | Helen Weathers

Posted on 06/18/2011 1:31:13 PM PDT by wagglebee

Karen Royle’s memories of the last precious hours with her cherished mother Rona are far from the serene, comforting images that she had hoped for.

Before arriving in Zurich, Karen, 51, had envisaged a pretty Swiss chalet, with perhaps a view of the Alps — ‘just like the pictures in the book Heidi, which I’d loved as a child’.

But the Dignitas ‘apartment’ at No  84 Gertrudestrasse, where 74-year-old Rona chose to end her life rather than succumb further to the ravages of Motor Neurone Disease (MND), bore no comparison to the picture-postcard tranquility her family had imagined.

The image Karen and her partner David Sweetman cannot erase from their minds is of a ‘blue tin shed’ on a barren industrial estate, with no views, just a scrubby patch of garden littered with cigarette butts.

Inside, the prefabricated structure was equally spartan, with no decorations apart from two roses, an angel-shaped candle and a silver-winged candle holder that the Royles, at Rona’s request, had brought with them.

‘That vision of what was little more than a blue tin shed will stay with me for the rest of my life,’ says David, a decorator.

‘It reminded me of a gas chamber. I felt like I was taking Rona to her execution.

‘When the taxi turned into that industrial estate, we were so horrified I just wanted to turn straight round and drive away. The only thing that stopped us was Rona’s determination to go through with it. I kept asking her: “Rona, are you sure about this?” But she never wavered. To this day, though, I can’t help but feel guilty for taking her there.’

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KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; dignitas; euthanasia; evil; homicide; medicide; moralabsolutes; prolife; soylentgreen
"It reminded me of a gas chamber. I felt like I was taking Rona to her execution."

It IS an execution chamber.

1 posted on 06/18/2011 1:31:16 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/18/2011 1:31:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/18/2011 1:33:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, it is. Form follows function, as they say.


4 posted on 06/18/2011 1:33:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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5 posted on 06/18/2011 1:34:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Model for ObamaCare?


6 posted on 06/18/2011 1:35:34 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: wagglebee

This makes it sound like the only problem was the aesthetics, not that they were taking Mom off to be put to sleep.

If they wanted her to die some place with a view of the Alps, they should have rented a lovely cottage with a view of the Alps and let her die at her own pace there.

In there defense, I will say it sounds like Mom was the one behind this. But that’s what people do when they think their kids don’t care, they “don’t want to be a burden,” and they know that everybody just wants them to get moving and get it over with. So maybe it would be better with flowers in the room?


7 posted on 06/18/2011 1:36:33 PM PDT by livius
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To: wagglebee
But the Dignitas ‘apartment’ at No  84 Gertrudestrasse, where 74-year-old Rona chose to end her life rather than succumb further to the ravages of Motor Neurone Disease (MND), bore no comparison to the picture-postcard tranquility her family had imagined.

It probably is quite beautiful compared to what her mother may be seeing and experiencing now.

How shameful, a daughter escorting her mother to a death chamber; calling her by her first name as well.

9 posted on 06/18/2011 1:38:15 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Banned from the Rush Limbaugh Facebook page on 06/17/2011.)
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To: wagglebee

So sad, and so sick.


10 posted on 06/18/2011 1:38:25 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: wagglebee
They had been doing this in apartment buildings but the neighbors complained so the Swiss government (if you can call it that) restricted the practice to a more industrial area.

The place has fallen into total moral disarray with the pagan takeover.

11 posted on 06/18/2011 1:41:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: livius

If they wanted her to die some place with a view of the Alps, they should have rented a lovely cottage with a view of the Alps and let her die at her own pace there.
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The whole thing probably wasnt cheap

What you describe probably would have cost less...

There are lovely views in England though

They didnt need to go all the way to Europe...


12 posted on 06/18/2011 1:41:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (in such a hurry...)
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To: livius
You are right. Many elderly feel their life is over, they have no further purpose, and would be glad for God to take them home.

The problem comes when their children feel the same way about them, as in this case.

13 posted on 06/18/2011 1:41:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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It reminded me of a gas chamber. I felt like I was taking Rona to her execution
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Duh !!!


14 posted on 06/18/2011 1:45:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: wagglebee
The kind of scum who run squalid places like that are ghouls. It's the kind of place they like, filthy, grim, ugly.

Kevorkian admitted he liked watching people die, and his "artwork" revealed a deeply sick psyche, one that was twisted and vile.

No surprise at this.

15 posted on 06/18/2011 1:51:51 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: wagglebee

“Jim (the deceased woman’s husband) who had recently been diagnosed with dementia, was so traumatised by the event that a doctor had to be called out to their hotel in the early hours to sedate him.”

So sad.


16 posted on 06/18/2011 2:02:29 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: wagglebee

Sixteen years ago my mom was fighting cancer. Her doctor had a private talk with my brother and father (that was in Spain, I lived in the US) describing the awful death that awaited her. My brother called me to tell me that dad and him had decided to spare her that torment. The next few months were awful. My brother and I argued about it all the time. I considered telling my mom what they were planning, but then I thought that would terrify her, so I wouldn’t say anything and then feel guilty about it... Thankfully, assisted suicide wasn’t an easy alternative back then. My father and brother kept looking for a doctor willing to help. God answered my prayers when He mercifully took my mom home earlier than expected.


17 posted on 06/18/2011 2:10:19 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: wagglebee
But, I thought such a place would be beautiful with a beautiful bed to lay on while they give you “the pill” to drink, then show you beautiful movies of wildlife and beautiful nature film while listening to the beautiful sound of Beethoven's PASTORAL symphony!

After which they turn you into Soylent Green.

18 posted on 06/18/2011 2:13:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS!)
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To: Former Fetus
What many fail to recognize is that the culture of death's goal is to take euthanasia from being a choice to being the policy.
19 posted on 06/18/2011 2:13:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“She made an initial payment of £1,750 for the ‘accompanied suicide’, and paid the £9,500 balance before travelling with her family to Zurich in December 2009.”

What a racket!


20 posted on 06/18/2011 2:14:31 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: livius

I want my full twenty minutes - I was promised twenty minutes!


21 posted on 06/18/2011 2:21:07 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The Sixteenth Amendment - a.k.a. - The Slavery Amendment)
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To: Twotone
Yep, she paid more than $18,000 for maybe $20 worth of poison.
22 posted on 06/18/2011 2:21:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Death be not proud..


23 posted on 06/18/2011 2:22:29 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Outlaw Woman

Actually it’s David, her son-in-law, calling her Rona in the story. If David’s own mother still lives, for him to call Rona “Mom” might be awkward, though that often is a term among affectionate in-laws (like she might call him “son”).

About the spartan accommodations, perhaps it is to focus the soon-to-be-decedent’s mind on the purpose. It’s macabre to ponder, but this “service” sure wouldn’t lack the money for a chalet, it’s not like it would be used for long by any “guest.” But about the gloomy digs, a visit to a cheerful chalet with an inspiring, “The Sound Of Music” kind of mountain view with classical music piped throughout and nice food and beverages might perk the person up and he or she might decide to live out his or her natural life after all. Then what would Satan’s minions have to report to their boss?


24 posted on 06/18/2011 2:22:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Twotone

My thoughts exactly. Maybe she should have gone up a level or two, for an extra 25,000 or 50,000 pounds ... why cheap it!


25 posted on 06/18/2011 2:25:53 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: wagglebee

It would have been better to take a cruise. Great food, good movies, Monte Carlo night and then the fourth night out at sea, fall off the ship.


26 posted on 06/18/2011 2:41:32 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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Kevorkian admitted he liked watching people die, and his "artwork" revealed a deeply sick psyche, one that was twisted and vile.

Anybody who doesn't believe in Satan and demonic possession should study the case of Jack Kevorkian and try to explain it any other way.

27 posted on 06/18/2011 2:53:15 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: wagglebee

Soylent Green, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVpN312hYgU

Logan’s Run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUUnc1M0TA&feature=related

are 2 excellent looks at our future if we don’t put a stop to 0, dems and RINOS.


28 posted on 06/18/2011 2:57:59 PM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS or RINOS in 2012!)
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To: wagglebee

She paid over 11,000 pounds to swallow a hundred bucks worth of barbituates? That Swiss shyster is gonna be a millionaire before long. Wonder what he’s gonna say to God on his judgement day?


29 posted on 06/18/2011 3:01:25 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Apparently my comprehension is not up to par today. Thanks for the correction.

What you say about the gloomy digs makes sense; after all if pleasant things were surrounding the ‘victim’, they might change their mind and demand their money back.

But another thing that crossed my mind is that the people performing these ‘executions’ don’t have the money (yet) to improve conditions enough to fool the victims.

But according to this account no matter what the surroundings were she was determined to end it.

God must be weeping.


30 posted on 06/18/2011 3:03:45 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Banned from the Rush Limbaugh Facebook page on 06/17/2011.)
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Between you and I and the doorpost, from the glimpse I’m getting from these news articles, what they’re doing there could probably be carried out equally well by a person hell bent on suicide at home, much cheaper, and with no additional suffering than the Swiss plan. The wherewithal can be had at any grocery store.


31 posted on 06/18/2011 3:12:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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This is hideous. The deluded people paid the equivelent of some $18K so that the elderly woman could take a few hundered dollars in pills in a tin shack. They call THAT death with diginty? I understand people not wanting themselves or others to die slow, painful deaths, but the euthenasia movement is a fraud.

One can only hope that others learn from this bad example, especially Americans.


32 posted on 06/18/2011 3:21:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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God bless you.


33 posted on 06/18/2011 3:24:43 PM PDT by constitutiongirl (The Truth is a Person.)
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To: wagglebee

‘Bee, she wasn’t paying for poison. She was paying for the sham dignity of having a doctor, somewhere, bless her plans, to attempt to evade the shame of a cheap do-it-yourself job. But as these stories leak out, “Dignitas” is going to have a lot of ‘splaining to do, Lucy. It would be grand if Switzerland got a clue and banned it.


34 posted on 06/18/2011 3:33:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: livius
This makes it sound like the only problem was the aesthetics, not that they were taking Mom off to be put to sleep.

If they wanted her to die some place with a view of the Alps, they should have rented a lovely cottage with a view of the Alps and let her die at her own pace there.

In there defense, I will say it sounds like Mom was the one behind this. But that’s what people do when they think their kids don’t care, they “don’t want to be a burden,” and they know that everybody just wants them to get moving and get it over with. So maybe it would be better with flowers in the room?

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Wow. What a post. Well said.

35 posted on 06/18/2011 3:46:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I’m so sorry. That must have been so hard.


36 posted on 06/18/2011 3:48:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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37 posted on 06/18/2011 3:54:02 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: wagglebee

Sheesh. 14 years ago, when I started nursing, people would put the garage door down with the car running, or drink a bottle of Drano. I didn’t & still don’t agree with their “choice” to committ suicide but I have to give them credit for not being so selfish as to drag another person into it.

What the hell has happened to us?? Satan must have one big-ass grin over this. Sick. Just sick.


38 posted on 06/18/2011 4:21:12 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: wagglebee
Dignified? It was like an execution chamber: Daughter who took her mother to die at Dignitas

The pro-death culture tries to make it out the person's *peaceful* death will be like a scene from Soylent Green or something.

"It reminded me of a gas chamber. I felt like I was taking Rona to her execution."

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU WERE, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

39 posted on 06/18/2011 4:41:59 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Some years ago a friend’s mother was dying and they chose to have her live out her days at his family’s home, where’s she’d lived for several years at that point. They found a hospice related group that provided support services, including a harp player who came to the house a couple of times a week and played soothing celtic songs for the mom. They did everything they could to make her passing as comfortable and peaceful as possible. That’s something I’ve always admired.


40 posted on 06/18/2011 4:53:44 PM PDT by EDINVA ( CHANGE it back!)
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To: wagglebee

Eventually, it’ll be more like Logan’s Run. The death machine will be a source of entertainment. Probably televised. Still criminal.


41 posted on 06/18/2011 5:13:10 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: wagglebee

“Hey! Wait a minute, this is an abattoir!”


42 posted on 06/18/2011 6:18:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: ‘We own the economy’ June 15, 2011)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Idiots got taken.

I feel bad for the old lady.


43 posted on 06/20/2011 12:33:43 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Sheesh. 14 years ago, when I started nursing, people would put the garage door down with the car running, or drink a bottle of Drano. I didn’t & still don’t agree with their “choice” to committ suicide but I have to give them credit for not being so selfish as to drag another person into it.

What the hell has happened to us?? Satan must have one big-ass grin over this. Sick. Just sick.


If someone is going to commit suicide and they are heck bent on doing it, there is little you can do to stop them other than confinement and tying them to a chair. Still, at least, as you put it, they did make that decision and carried it out on their own. I know this is in another country, but if it was up to me, I'd send in the 101st Screaming Eagles and shut these places down.
44 posted on 06/20/2011 7:06:27 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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45 posted on 06/26/2011 11:53:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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