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Andrea Yates could be freed by the end of this year
Daily Mail ^ | 8:31 PM on 20th June 2011 | By David Gardner

Posted on 06/20/2011 4:28:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru

A mother who shocked America by drowning her five children in the bathtub may be freed by the end of the year, according to her lawyer.

Andrea Yates systematically murdered her children, aged between six months and seven years, at her suburban Clear Lake, Texas, home ten years ago today.

She then dialled 911 and told the first police officer who arrived at the house: 'I just killed my kids.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: adnreayates; bathtub; child; crime; drowning; katiecouric; kids; killer; lawyer; mother; murder; officer; police; psychosis; suburban; texas
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To: cherry
They had been involved with a fanatical, self-proclaimed preacher and had lived in a school bus with the kids for a short time.

I think a lot of the husband's choices were not good for a woman in her mental state...and would have driven a sane woman crazy!

BTW, he remains in contact with her...but it didn't take him long to divorce her and marry again.

141 posted on 06/21/2011 5:10:04 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Politicalmom
Gee. The MIL was being polite and allowing the family to have some time alone together.

Surely you jest!

My guess is the MIL couldn't wait to get out of that hell hole and back to the motel! How much "help" was she if the house was dirty and cluttered?

You seem to have pictures in your head of her chained up in a dungeon by her evil family.

To me, having 5 kids and a miscarriage in a period of 7 years might be worse than being chained up in a dungeon. It's safe to assume that on top of her other mental issues, Andrea suffered from sleep deprivation.

That simply isn’t the case.

That simply is something we can only opine about because we weren't there.

142 posted on 06/21/2011 6:36:07 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Your posts indicate that you believe depression is a defense against the charge of murder.

I absolutely disagree. If you are crazy enough to kill you are crazy enough to be executed. The world cannot revolve around the worst case scenario.

143 posted on 06/21/2011 7:10:18 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

I agree. In these cases I always wonder why the depression causes them to kill their children rather than themselves.


144 posted on 06/21/2011 7:12:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: lonestar

Crazy does not justify evil. She was of sound enough mind to do some meticulous planning. You are simply refusing th acknowledge evil of that depth can exist.


145 posted on 06/21/2011 7:18:13 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: basil
The husband didn't kill five children. She murdered her FIVE children. If she was as miserable as is claimed, all she had to do was walk out the door and not go back.

She's dangerous.

146 posted on 06/21/2011 7:22:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: hopespringseternal
As I have stated before, I'm not trying to justify or make excuses for her. I believe she did an evil deed...beyond comprehension...but was not an evil person. I don't think it's ever been said that she was ever a threat to society...only to herself and her kids.

I believe it has been written that she thought she was an evil person and a bad mother and expected to be punished.

IMO, living with what she did is worse than any punishment that could be handed down in a court room.

She met the TX legal definition for mentally insane.

147 posted on 06/21/2011 7:40:09 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

What if it wasn’t just postpartum related? Her father was mentally ill so if she gets out and is not compliant with her meds do we really want to trust her to be out in society again?

I for one don’t trust the shrinks at the Rusk state hospital to have a real clue after they released a paranoid schizophrenic murderer when he stabilized on meds. Guess what happened a few months later? The nutjob murdered a five year old boy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119302/posts


148 posted on 06/21/2011 8:11:50 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: trisham

If it were only that simple.....This woman was mentally ill, and in no condition to make any wise choices. She had no support group—she was kept isolated. She was terrified of her husband, but had no place to go.

I followed this very carefully from the beginning. I lived in Dallas at the time it happened. When it first broke, I along with just about everybody else in the area, was horrified and thought the woman should go to the electric chair!

However, as we learned more and more about it over the next few months, I began to see things differently.

Since I also had 5 children, I knew what it was like to keep a lot of balls in the air at all times—but I had the loving support of a husband who came home from work and helped with the kids bath and bed time. It was then that I could relax and rest up for the next day. This woman had none of that.

Instead, she had a vicious, controlling husband that not only didn’t help her or give her any relief from the kids, he punished her for every little thing she did or didn’t do that he considered an infraction of his rules.

You can’t simply walk out the door and not go back. You especially can’t do that if your every move is being controlled and you have been reduced to a quivering mass, afraid to make any “wrong” moves.


149 posted on 06/21/2011 8:13:39 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
You can’t simply walk out the door and not go back. You especially can’t do that if your every move is being controlled and you have been reduced to a quivering mass, afraid to make any “wrong” moves.

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If your alternative is to kill five children you certainly can.

150 posted on 06/21/2011 8:17:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: basil

She figured out how to drown those 5 kids between the hour her husband left for work and her MIL was scheduled to arrive to help her out with the kids.

She then immediately called 911 and confessed to killing them and then called her husband to say she did it.

She was with it enough to plan and murder her children in a methodical manner. She was with it enough to wait for a time when she was alone to pull it off.


151 posted on 06/21/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Dude! If she did that to her own kids W-T-F do you think she’d do to you or me?


152 posted on 06/21/2011 8:34:28 AM PDT by Justa
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To: CajunConservative

Agreed. Imho, she did it out of anger for her husband. Revenge. She’s one scary woman.


153 posted on 06/21/2011 8:38:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“But then, 70 years ago we just killed “mental defectives”..”

Wrong, we just killed MURDERERS.

People are more important than a person’s mental state. Something modern “progressives” -such as yourself obviously- do not appreciate.


154 posted on 06/21/2011 8:39:02 AM PDT by Justa
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To: trisham

I don’t get the angst over this woman. She has crossed the line of acceptable behavior. Anyone who can rationalize murder is simply not someone to ever be trusted in society again.


155 posted on 06/21/2011 8:43:35 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CajunConservative

Agreed. I wouldn’t want her living next door to me.


156 posted on 06/21/2011 8:46:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

We followed this case when it happened how could Houston folks avoid it! I have trouble imagining that she could ever live outside an institution but the one to blame or at least share the blame is her former husband.

His treatment of this woman was absolutely horrible and he needs to be behind bars for abuse for life. He is a MONSTER!


157 posted on 06/21/2011 8:49:52 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“she will have to live with the memories of what she did.”

BS, she’ll blame her husband just like some on this board.

If she had free will to kill she had free will to walk away.

She chose murder as her freedom.

Fry the bitch!


158 posted on 06/21/2011 8:50:24 AM PDT by Justa
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To: trisham

The least the state could do is lock her up for life.


159 posted on 06/21/2011 8:50:32 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CajunConservative

Too late.


160 posted on 06/21/2011 8:57:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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