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John Dean Knows How to Get Rid of Clarence Thomas
Reader Supported News ^ | June 28, 2011 | John Dean

Posted on 07/02/2011 10:33:50 AM PDT by EveningStar

For good reason, there has been serious hand-wringing over what to do about the ethical lapses of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. The fact that Supreme Court justices are exempt from the code of ethical conduct which applies to the rest of the federal judiciary; the problem of bringing a sitting justice before the Congress to question the conduct of a constitutional co-equal; the reality that justices cannot easily defend themselves against news media charges; the defiant, in-your-face posture of Thomas—the list goes on but it need not. There is clear precedent for how to deal with the justice. Thomas could be forced off the bench.

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I can't believe that John "The Weasel" Dean is still around spewing his garbage.
1 posted on 07/02/2011 10:33:53 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Another case of AWB- adjudicating while black.


2 posted on 07/02/2011 10:36:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: EveningStar

Well, no one ever accused Dean of being a brain surgeon...

If Dean really wanted to do some good (which I will never believe), he would address the the fact that Kagan is infinitely unqualified to be there.


3 posted on 07/02/2011 10:38:40 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: EveningStar

John was never a good lawyer nor does he work well with others.


4 posted on 07/02/2011 10:38:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar
Maureen had him pegged a long time ago and got the heck away from him. He's a hyper rat partisan attempting to wrap himself in a cloak of honesty and respectability.
5 posted on 07/02/2011 10:39:01 AM PDT by JPG (Elect Sarah Palin in '12. America won't get another chance.)
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To: EveningStar

After scanning the article I was surprised to see that Dean wants him thrown off for ethical lapses. Why bother to engage in an ‘electronic lynching’? His friends are the party of rope lynching. Why doesn’t he just call for a straight out lynching?


6 posted on 07/02/2011 10:40:00 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: EveningStar

Interesting that Mrs. Dean has no interest whatsoever in Elena Kagan’s “violations of ethical conduct.”


7 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: nickcarraway

Something liberals do well is write thousands of words without making a lucid point. Good work, John Dean.


8 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:13 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: EveningStar

Watergate was all about John Dean grabbing records that proved his wife was a former call girl. The DNC office that was the supposed target, was on the other side of the build from where the break in occurred. Dean lied to the “plumbers” and to Nixon about the nature of the “mission”.


9 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:24 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: EveningStar
...the reality that justices cannot easily defend themselves against news media charges...

Defending yourself against this one isn't hard. "I am not going to take serious the rantings of a criminal."

10 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:57 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: muawiyah
John was never a good lawyer nor does he work well with others.

Nope, he was/is not. If you have questions about John simply ask George Gordon Liddy about him.

11 posted on 07/02/2011 10:45:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: EveningStar
"In short, nothing is going to happen to Clarence Thomas. No one is going to truly challenge his conduct, and he will sit on the Supreme Court until he feels like leaving."

Gee, this guy sho did spew a bunch of venom and slobber, only to arrive at a rather logical conclusion.

12 posted on 07/02/2011 10:46:39 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: EveningStar

JOHN DEAN...the same John DEAN that masterminded the Watergate Breakin to find the Dum prostitute book with his wifes name in it.(IMO ofcourse) THAT JOHN DEAN!!

OFGS. PULL this sucker.


13 posted on 07/02/2011 10:47:58 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: EveningStar
The World, as John Dean sees it. From which planet, I can't quite tell. (Emphasis mine:

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"There are two problems with this strategy. First, the Democrats would never do to Thomas what Republicans did to Fortas. For the Republicans, seats on the Supreme Court are worth whatever it takes to get them. They play hardball.

For Democrats, well, they play beanbag over judicial appointments. Democrats are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them. This is why a minority of Republicans in the United States can control the overwhelming majority of Democrats and independents who lean left.

14 posted on 07/02/2011 10:48:32 AM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori. RIP)
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To: Tax Government
Something liberals do well is write thousands of words without making a lucid point. Good work, John Dean.

Nonetheless, Crow continues to bestow endless gifts and favors on Thomas or fund matters of serious interest to the justice, such as giving Thomas a $19,000 Bible that once belonged to Frederick Douglass, donating $175,000 to finance a library project dedicated to Thomas in Savannah, Ga.,

My goodness - building a LIBRARY dedicated to the Justice in his home town - THE HORROR

15 posted on 07/02/2011 10:50:20 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: EveningStar
John Dean Knows How to Get Rid of Clarence Thomas

Nixon should have known how to get rid of John Dean.

16 posted on 07/02/2011 10:50:52 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Marty62
OFGS. PULL this sucker.

Pull the thread? Why? It's a useful demonstration of how our opponents' "minds" work.

17 posted on 07/02/2011 10:50:53 AM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori. RIP)
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To: Texas Fossil
I caught John on three different occasions carrying a large valise with him as he visited the original "Cuban Watergate Defendants" billeted on the 7th floor of my building.

This valise contained large amounts of money to be paid to those fella's to SHUT UP about certain things.

John isn't an honest man.

Old buddy of mine from high school was his cellmate for a while ~ huge man with hands that could crush a mere football. I have no idea what he did to John, but John was never the same after that.

18 posted on 07/02/2011 10:50:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Marty62
OFGS. PULL this sucker.

I disagree. We need to keep reminding ourselves that assholes like Dean are still around.

19 posted on 07/02/2011 10:55:04 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: don-o
Democrats are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them.

OMGosh. Crazier than McCain.

20 posted on 07/02/2011 10:55:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: don-o

Exactly. And people like Dean still have their admirers as evidenced by the reader comments following the article.


21 posted on 07/02/2011 10:56:33 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

This is his aim, if a Dem Justice has to recuse herself, then a Rep Justice must do the same.

“In addition, Crow reportedly provided Ginni Thomas some $500,000 to start her tea party group, Liberty Central, which pays her so well. Ginni Thomas openly lobbies issues that have or will come before the Supreme Court, such as health care reform.

When 74 Democratic members of Congress requested that Justice Thomas disqualify himself from any ruling on the new health care reform law, which is making its way toward the Supreme Court thanks in part to the efforts of the tea party and Ginni Thomas to have that law ruled unconstitutional, he ignored the request. This is his standard operating procedure. Thomas simply is not troubled by those who are concerned that a justice and his wife directly and indirectly receive financial benefits from “a friend” with both financial and political interests before the court.”


22 posted on 07/02/2011 10:56:45 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 13Sisters76

Kos is involved;

“The question is what can be done about this problem. Early this year, U.S. Rep. Christopher Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat, introduced the proposed Supreme Court Transparency and Disclosure Act of 2011 (H.R. 862). When introducing this legislation, which would extend to Supreme Court justices the code of professional conduct that applies to all other federal judges, Murphy cited the conflict of interest and political actions of Justice Clarence Thomas. Recently, the bill received a glimmer of press attention as a result of Thomas’ latest reported shenanigans, and the website Daily Kos is collecting signatures for a petition supporting Murphy’s proposal. “


23 posted on 07/02/2011 10:58:44 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: G Larry; JPG

Ditto on Dean being the mastermind behind Watergate - to protect his call girl, son-to-be wife (Maureen).

JPG - when did Maureen leave Dean as I never heard that news?


24 posted on 07/02/2011 11:03:07 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: muawiyah
Old buddy of mine from high school was his cellmate for a while ~ huge man with hands that could crush a mere football. I have no idea what he did to John, but John was never the same after that.

Liberalism is a mental disorder and is an incurable disease. It appears your high school classmate did not reform John, he is still playing the same game. And he is still a Lying Dem.

25 posted on 07/02/2011 11:03:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: EveningStar
there is absolutely no question in my mind that Thomas lied his way onto the Supreme Court in 1991

This could be true; if there is no mind, there is no doubt. Strange Justice was such a farce that Ted Kopel deftly stepped aside and let other journalists ruin their careers when the big expose' hit Nightline.

26 posted on 07/02/2011 11:04:36 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: EveningStar

What a truly bizarre article. And the comments really highlight how many delusional people are out there.


27 posted on 07/02/2011 11:05:08 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: EveningStar

The wife (or husband) of a Supreme Court Justice is both legally and ethically free to work for whomever she (or he) pleases. And a Justice is free to decide cases however he or she pleases, provided neither the husband nor the wife receive any bribe or reward contingent on the way a case is decided.

Of course, for every decision any judge has ever made, or ever will make, he or she benefits from the fact that the decision necessarily conforms to his or her interpretation of the law. It is logically impossible to prevent that.

Yes, Clarence Thomas’ wife, Ginny Thomas, is getting paid to lobby for the anti- ObamaCare cause by her current clients and/or employer. But she would be getting paid to do so regardless of which way the decision went, or even if the case never got to the SCOTUS. Unless and until someone can establish a quid-pro-quo of a bonus to her if he decides in a given manner, or of an adverse consequence unless he does so, there is no conflict of interest.

The bottom line is that Ginny Thomas doesn’t stand to gain or lose any benefits no matter how her husband rules. Unless Ginny benefits, neither does Clarence (since no one even claims he would receive benefits directly, but only indirectly via his wife.)

Unless continued employment is contingent on how her husband rules, or unless she will get some additional remuneration for a favorable decision, one cannot say that she will benefit from the decision, no matter what the court may rule. Has she been promised that if Justice Thomas decides a certain way she will be additionally compensated? Has she been threatened with adverse consequences unless he rules a certain way? No, and no.

In fact, the only even remotely-credible argument would be that Ginny’s financial interests are best served by a SCOTUS decision that keeps the issue alive, and keeps her employer and its clients as interested as possible in additional legal and political work in opposition to ObamaCare. But the possibility that that would improperly influence Clarence Thomas is essentially zero, as explained below.

As for the Heritage Foundation issue: All work and all payments to Ginny Thomas from that source occurred BEFORE Obamacare was passed. That categorically prevents that issue from establishing any pretext for recusal.

Finally, the idea that Clarence Thomas would be in any way influenced to rule against ObamaCare due to the political views and/or activities of his wife is too ludicrous and ridiculous even for the left. Does anyone seriously doubt—especially anyone on the left—that Clarence Thomas opposes not only ObamaCare in particular, but the egregious misinterpretations of the Commerce Clause used to justify not only ObamaCare, but most of the modern Unconstitutional activities of the Federal government? Read his writings and his past opinions, should you have any doubt about that whatsoever. And then you’ll understand why the idea that his wife will have any influence on his legal opinions on this issue at all is outrageously false.

Justice Breyer, whom President Bill Clinton appointed to the court in 1994, said concerns about recusal were “a false issue.”

“As far as what your wife does, or your husband, I myself have tried to stick to a certain principle — that a wife is an independent person, and they make up their own minds as to what their career is to be,” Breyer said, adding that he sits in on cases involving psychology despite the fact that his wife is a clinical psychologist.

Justice Breyer noted that a Supreme Court recusal leaves a vacancy on the court that could affect a court decision, whereas justices can be replaced when a conflict of interest occurs in Federal courts. [ref: http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/breyer-thomas-clarence-virginia/2011/06/29/id/401940}


28 posted on 07/02/2011 11:11:42 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: EveningStar

James Dean always struck me as a Weiner clone, just with a better suit, better diction and a thicker veneer of faux class.


29 posted on 07/02/2011 11:11:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: EveningStar
Dean's piece is nothing but a smear. The "ethical lapses," are all Dean's!

His comments about who plays "hard ball," with the Courts, is a deliberate lie. It wasn't just Republicans who stopped Fortas--LBJ's effort to control the Court. But from the lynching of Bork, the attempted lynching of Thomas, and the blockage of several other Conservative appointees in recent decades, the truth tells a very different story than Dean's.

And, for that matter, the Left blocked a Conservative appointee in 1930--Parker, I believe--who might have proven the vote to block FDR's massive debt default resulting from the arbitrary devaluation of the dollar, coupled with the repudiation of the contractual obligations in the gold clause bonds.

As for conflicts of interest? Look up the role of FDR's Felix Frankfurter, who was involved in setting up the ACLU, in Court decisions taking away religious freedom in American local school districts, etc.. (See, on this, Leftwing Word Games & 1st Amendment.)

William Flax

30 posted on 07/02/2011 11:13:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Tax Government

“Something liberals do well is write thousands of words without making a lucid point. Good work, John Dean.”

Yes, and then they ‘substantiate’ their drivel by citing thousands of words of similiarly baseless, pointless, hyper-partisan crap written the gang they share a brain with. How does an intelligent person respond?


31 posted on 07/02/2011 11:14:34 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: EveningStar

This is ripe!

“There are two problems with this strategy. First, the Democrats would never do to Thomas what Republicans did to Fortas. For the Republicans, seats on the Supreme Court are worth whatever it takes to get them. They play hardball. For Democrats, well, they play beanbag over judicial appointments. Democrats are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them. This is why a minority of Republicans in the United States can control the overwhelming majority of Democrats and independents who lean left.”


32 posted on 07/02/2011 11:15:42 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: EveningStar

G. Gordon Libby would have been true hero if he’d have taken Dean out.


33 posted on 07/02/2011 11:16:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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Yes, this the weasel, John Dean?

From Findlaw.com; Before becoming Counsel to the President of the United States in July 1970 at age thirty-one, John Dean was Chief Minority Counsel to the Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives, the Associate Director of a law reform commission, and Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States. He served as Richard Nixon’s White House lawyer for a thousand days.

He did his undergraduate studies at Colgate University and the College of Wooster, with majors in English Literature and Political Science. He received a graduate fellowship from American University to study government and the presidency, before entering Georgetown University Law Center, where he received his JD in 1965.

John has long written on the subjects of law, government, and politics, and he recounted his days in the Nixon White House and Watergate in two books, Blind Ambition (1976) and Lost Honor (1982). He lives in Beverly Hills, California with his wife Maureen, and now devotes full time to writing and lecturing, having retired from his career as a private investment banker.

34 posted on 07/02/2011 11:18:04 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: EveningStar
Democrats would never do to Thomas what Republicans did to Fortas. For the Republicans, seats on the Supreme Court are worth whatever it takes to get them. They play hardball. For Democrats, well, they play beanbag over judicial appointments. Democrats are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them.

John Dean is stark raving mad.

35 posted on 07/02/2011 11:22:45 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: newfreep
I stand corrected. I would have bet anyone $100 that Maureen divorced John. After some checking, they are apparently still married and I'd be out the $100. My first recollections are usually right...but not always!
36 posted on 07/02/2011 11:24:00 AM PDT by JPG (Elect Sarah Palin in '12. America won't get another chance.)
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To: EveningStar

If a conservative had accused a black man of these allegations the media would be going ballistic. A perfect example of the MSM’s double standard.


37 posted on 07/02/2011 11:26:32 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: freespirited

What’s he mean, did they Bork Fortas?


38 posted on 07/02/2011 11:28:38 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: don-o

Oh yeah, the Democrats are sooooooooooooooooooo nice, that’s the ticket


39 posted on 07/02/2011 11:28:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: EveningStar

Like Leon Panetta, he is part of the legacy of Richard M. Nixon. For that matter so is Julie “Obama” Eisenhower!


40 posted on 07/02/2011 11:29:26 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: JPG

It may be that you remember Maureen was previoiusly married, or maybe it was John who was previously married. That’s probably what confused you.


41 posted on 07/02/2011 11:32:58 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: freespirited
"For Democrats, well, they play beanbag over judicial appointments. Democrats are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them."

Tell that to Robert Bork, Johnnie.....(or Clarence Thomas.)

42 posted on 07/02/2011 11:33:34 AM PDT by Reo
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To: EveningStar

John Dean, former governor of THE whitest state in the Union, finds a way to lynch the inconvenient black man.


43 posted on 07/02/2011 11:35:09 AM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: EveningStar
Democrats (in confirmation hearings) are willing to toss a few stingers, but never do they truly want to hurt anyone. They cannot help it that they are nice people, and ruthlessness does not work for them.

Unbelievable. A lot of accusations- no correlation. He is basing these accusations off of a NYT hit piece.

You'll read this and think of how they will fight and scream when Kagan has to recuse herself from the health care case.

44 posted on 07/02/2011 11:35:25 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: EveningStar

One would think a Watergate figure like Dean would know to lay low and fade into the background. I wonder if he`s in the employ of the regime...


45 posted on 07/02/2011 11:36:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: cookcounty

You’re confusing John Dean with Howard Dean. John Dean never held elective office.


46 posted on 07/02/2011 11:36:27 AM PDT by Publius (Out of Seattle, into Georgia! Free at last!)
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To: JPG
Maureen had him pegged a long time ago and got the heck away from him.

Who's Maureen?

47 posted on 07/02/2011 11:37:26 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: cookcounty

Maybe all the Deans are crazy, but you mean Howard Dean.


48 posted on 07/02/2011 11:37:29 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: EveningStar

Before offering his unsolicited opinions about ethics in government, perhaps Dean should tell his younger readers about his own career as a federal prisoner who earned his prison berth in service to Tricky Dick Nixon during Watergate.


49 posted on 07/02/2011 11:39:00 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: submarinerswife

A platinum blonde so-called stunner , his wife, who appeared in the background of all the TV testimony Dean gave in 1973 before the Senate Select Kangaroo Court of Sen. Sam Irvin (Erving?) on Watergate.


50 posted on 07/02/2011 11:40:21 AM PDT by gusopol3
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