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Calif. Hospitals Spend $1.25 Bil On Illegal Immigrants
Judicial Watch ^ | July 5, 2011

Posted on 07/05/2011 12:37:26 PM PDT by jazusamo

While the Obama Administration halts deportations to work on its secret amnesty plan, hospitals across the U.S. are getting stuck with the exorbitant tab of medically treating illegal immigrants and some are finally demanding compensation from the federal government.

The group that represents most of the nation’s hospitals and medical providers recently urged President Obama to work with Congress to reimburse them for the monstrous cost of treating illegal immigrants. Federal law requires facilities to “treat and stabilize individuals” regardless of their immigration status, but federal support for the services remains “virtually nonexistent,” according to a letter submitted by the American Hospital Association to the president.

This week officials in California, the state with the largest concentration of illegal immigrants, joined the call for federal compensation after revealing that hospitals there spend about $1.25 billion annually to care for illegal aliens. The figure skyrocketed from $1.05 billion in 2007, according to California Hospital Association figures quoted in a local news report.

The problem will only get worst, according to officials, who say the $1.25 billion for 2010 could actually be higher. They complain that federal law forces them to treat patients in emergency rooms regardless of immigration status yet they get stuck with the financial burden. This has forced many hospitals to curtail services or close beds and could ultimately compromise healthcare.

Nationwide, U.S. taxpayers spend tens of billions of dollars annually to provide free medical care for illegal immigrants with states that border Mexico taking the biggest hit. Adding to the problem is the fact that Mexico, the country that provides the largest amount of illegal immigrants in the U.S., has long promoted America’s generous public health centers. It even operates a Spanish-language program (Ventanillas de Salud, Health Windows) in about a dozen U.S. cities that refers its nationals—living in the country illegally—to publicly funded health centers where they can get free medical care without being turned over to immigration authorities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
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Outrageous that Mexico can run centers in U.S. cities to tell illegals where to get free health care and not be turned over to ICE.
1 posted on 07/05/2011 12:37:30 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Hey Caleefornia—suck it! You put OweBama in office, get used to your shackles.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 12:40:26 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: jazusamo

Paying for the DNC votes buys that other American refuse to pay for.


3 posted on 07/05/2011 12:48:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Biden- No representation for Gopers, Obama-Gopers must get in the back of the bus.)
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To: jazusamo
Calif. Hospitals Spend $1.25 Bil On Illegal Immigrants

This article is severely lacking. It doesn't even tell us how many illegal aliens the hosptials were able to purchase for their $1.25 Billion, never mind what they DID with them all...

4 posted on 07/05/2011 12:48:57 PM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: subterfuge

Exactly!


5 posted on 07/05/2011 12:49:07 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: jazusamo
Calif. Hospitals Spend $1.25 Bil On Illegal Immigrants

ROTFLMAO!

Everyone from Maine to Washington state from the North and to the South pay for California hospitals and if Obama has his way so we will be paying much more via a state bailout!

6 posted on 07/05/2011 12:50:51 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jazusamo

That’s just one state’s expenses in one area of the gimme teat. That’s not what the hospitals charge US citizens to make up the difference. That’s not including housing, education, courts, police, etc. that’s needed for the 30 million or so illegals we’re babysitting in the other 49 states and US territories.


7 posted on 07/05/2011 12:51:16 PM PDT by bgill
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To: jazusamo

Just say NO, they can go home to get their medical attention.


8 posted on 07/05/2011 12:51:50 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: jazusamo
Why should we the American tax payer responsible for these kind of crab? These illegal should even be here and they are not entile to any benefits. We should not paid for these kinds of crab.
9 posted on 07/05/2011 12:52:51 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: jazusamo; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”The group that represents most of the nation’s hospitals and medical providers recently urged President Obama to work with Congress to reimburse them for the monstrous cost of treating illegal immigrants. Federal law requires facilities to “treat and stabilize individuals” regardless of their immigration status, but federal support for the services remains “virtually nonexistent,” according to a letter submitted by the American Hospital Association to the president. This week officials in California, the state with the largest concentration of illegal immigrants, joined the call for federal compensation after revealing that hospitals there spend about $1.25 billion annually to care for illegal aliens. The figure skyrocketed from $1.05 billion in 2007, according to California Hospital Association figures quoted in a local news report.

I propose a idea a while back to handle this. Hospitals should be reimbursed for this ‘free’ mandated care under the federally mandated requirement but only if they either : Get the patient to identify themselves, or if not possible to get a valid ID they notify the Federal government that they have a ghost resident patient on their hands for them to investigate. Every uninsured (non-paying) patient should have at least one of the following :

1) VALID drivers license complying with REAL ID,
2) passport,
3) Green immigration card
4) valid SS number

Of course the weak link in my idea is having a POTUS that gives a crap, good luck on that : McCain, GWB, Obama forget it.

10 posted on 07/05/2011 12:56:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: jazusamo

Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

11 posted on 07/05/2011 12:57:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

How much is that per illegal Democrat voter?


12 posted on 07/05/2011 1:00:27 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: jazusamo
Hey moonbeam... do you have the balls to save your state 1.25 billion dollars... which is probably much higher because you know how well you dims lie and all... hey jerry... not one single American/Californian voter will feel this cut... so shine moonbeam... shine. Nah... you will back these enemy invaders to the hilt.

LLS

13 posted on 07/05/2011 1:03:46 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: sickoflibs

Illegals should only be treated for serious or life threatening issues and the final part of that treatment should be deportation.


14 posted on 07/05/2011 1:05:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Hey, we have Border Patrol agents telling apprehended injured aliens that they are not under arrest but that they need to get out of the agent’s car(parked off of hospital property)and walk into the Emergency Department. If they arrest and deliver the alien to the local ED,some of the money for medical care is paid for by the Border Patrol. No arrests, no transportation to the hospital, no worries.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 1:05:48 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: LibLieSlayer

Amen to that!


16 posted on 07/05/2011 1:06:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
It also spends billions educating their children and policing their enclaves while they thumb their noses at America, staying patriotic and allegiant to their home countries. They're here to suck as much wealth out of our country as they can, and they're doing a darn good job of it.
17 posted on 07/05/2011 1:08:42 PM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: jazusamo
...hospitals there spend about $1.25 billion annually to care for illegal aliens.

Note it doesn't say the hospitals loose $1.25 billion because they don't. Much of that is made up through cost shifting, etc.

But I agree that if the Feds make the hospitals see patients who cannot pay, no matter the reason, the Feds should chip in for the cost.

Ideally, the Fed law should be changed to tighten up the loophole.

18 posted on 07/05/2011 1:08:50 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Bullish

Correct, health care is only part of it.

Our politicians keep saying we can’t afford to deport the huge number of illegals that are here. I say we can’t afford not to deport them, they’re costing us more in welfare services than it would cost to deport them.


19 posted on 07/05/2011 1:14:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

You go to the hospital, check your bill for “indigent treatment”.

I belileve this goes to pay for people who come to the hospital who cannot afford treatment.

Would hate to think we are paying twice.


20 posted on 07/05/2011 1:15:02 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Save the planet, destroy the MSM)
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To: subterfuge
Hey Caleefornia—suck it! You put OweBama in office, get used to your shackles.

Dude, there are millions of good solid conservatives here in Calif. Don't lump us all in with those knucklehead idiots.

Might I remind you that the Forum you just posted that on is owned and run by a California conservative?

21 posted on 07/05/2011 1:15:49 PM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: jazusamo

TO HELL WITH CALIFORNIA AND EVERYONE IN IT. ENOUGH OF THIS OFF-THE-WALL INSANITY THAT IS CALIFORNIA AND CALIFORNIANS. May they go broke, and quick, and get no support from the U.S. government.


22 posted on 07/05/2011 1:16:09 PM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: jazusamo

The solution is pretty simple.

California should seize all Mexican assets and hold them in escrow pending payment from the sovereign state of Mexico


23 posted on 07/05/2011 1:16:56 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: jazusamo

My daughter went to the ER in January to get something for her terrible coughing due to bronchitis. Saw the doc for 20 minutes. Bill for said doc is $1,300, even after the Blue Shield adjustment.


24 posted on 07/05/2011 1:19:54 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: arrdon

So then, I can safely say you won’t be donating to the Freepathon?


25 posted on 07/05/2011 1:20:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Where do YOU stand in your relationship with God???)
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To: jazusamo
Our politicians keep saying we can’t afford to deport the huge number of illegals that are here. I say we can’t afford not to deport them, they’re costing us more in welfare services than it would cost to deport them.

We get nothing but more and more misery from supporting these citizens of other countries, we need to put an end to it at any cost.

AND NO MORE AMNESTIES!

26 posted on 07/05/2011 1:21:49 PM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: Lizavetta

Yep, very sad. Those ripoffs are where Hospitals are recouping part of the cost of treating illegals.


27 posted on 07/05/2011 1:23:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

You go to the hospital, check your bill for “indigent treatment”.

I belileve this goes to pay for people who come to the hospital who cannot afford treatment.

Would hate to think we are paying twice.


28 posted on 07/05/2011 1:26:34 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Save the planet, destroy the MSM)
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To: jazusamo; All

And yet, the media can’t figure out why hospital costs keep rising, and demand, and shill for, OBAMACARE...


29 posted on 07/05/2011 1:27:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: jazusamo
RE :"Illegals should only be treated for serious or life threatening issues and the final part of that treatment should be deportation."

That's what I was getting at. Just last week I had a freeper give me the 'We have to legalize them because we cant deport them all' straw man argument that was popular with Republicans 2007. So I laid out examples of how the Federal government could get them to stop lining up for free-bees.

30 posted on 07/05/2011 1:27:45 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Brad's Gramma; arrdon
So then, I can safely say you won’t be donating to the Freepathon?

Excellent point, BG. :-)

Maybe they'll reconsider and check post #11.

31 posted on 07/05/2011 1:29:20 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: sickoflibs; jazusamo; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...

Vote-crazed Obama is sucking up to illegals bigtime.

Obama has done everything to get latino votes but don a sombrero and do the Mexican hat dance on the WH lawn.


32 posted on 07/05/2011 1:34:18 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: subterfuge

>Hey Caleefornia—suck it! You put OweBama in office, get used to your shackles.<

Dude, we’re not all Obama leg-tinglers here. I didn’t vote for Moonbeam and neither do mexifornians who donate the most to FR. We are outnumbered by illegals and a-hole Dems.


33 posted on 07/05/2011 1:36:56 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FAK BARAK)
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To: Lizavetta
My daughter went to the ER in January to get something for her terrible coughing due to bronchitis.

There are urgent care facilities for just this kind of thing - far cheaper than ER visits. Did you contact your PCF? Normally they have an on-call nurse that can also provide information and directions on how to handle things - again cheaper and without tying up the ER.

34 posted on 07/05/2011 1:37:02 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: jazusamo

Naaaa...peeps who foam at the mouth like that don’t reconsider a thing.

I checked and he/she’s not even flying his state flag. Probably embarrassed..

:)


35 posted on 07/05/2011 1:46:38 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Where do YOU stand in your relationship with God???)
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To: Liz
RE :"Vote-crazed Obama is sucking up to illegals bigtime. Obama has done everything to get latino votes but don a sombrero and do the Mexican hat dance on the WH lawn."

He couldnt get all the Senate Dems to go out on a limb and vote for the Dream Act (late last year) without RINO defectors to give them cover. .

36 posted on 07/05/2011 1:48:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Liz; sickoflibs; jazusamo; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl
Obama has done everything to get latino votes but don a sombrero and do the Mexican hat dance on the WH lawn.

He already has the donkey routine down. I won't go into explicit detail...

37 posted on 07/05/2011 1:51:47 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


38 posted on 07/05/2011 1:52:22 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: Liz

” Obama has done everything to get latino votes but don a sombrero and do the Mexican hat dance on the WH lawn. “

He will do this in September ;-)


39 posted on 07/05/2011 2:03:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

” I won’t go into explicit detail... “

Might be fun!


40 posted on 07/05/2011 2:04:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs
Hope this helps.


41 posted on 07/05/2011 2:10:35 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Obama already has the donkey routine down. I won't go into explicit detail...

Heh---good one.

42 posted on 07/05/2011 2:12:45 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: bgill

Education costs are the lion’s share of illegal immigrant costs and that is saying something.


43 posted on 07/05/2011 2:15:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

LOL.


44 posted on 07/05/2011 2:42:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: jazusamo

“While the Obama Administration halts deportations to work on its secret amnesty plan, hospitals across the U.S. are getting stuck with the exorbitant tab of medically treating illegal immigrants and some are finally demanding compensation from the federal government. “

They are not only suck by the Federal Government with the bill of treating illegal immigrants but everyone else who shows up in the emergency room due to the 1986 Federal COBRA act.

The Federal Government morally owes theses hospitals competition for the losses the Federal goverment forces upon them with COBRA.


45 posted on 07/05/2011 3:02:43 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Godzilla

I was out of town at the time. My mother took her in.


46 posted on 07/05/2011 3:20:58 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs.


47 posted on 07/05/2011 3:34:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lizavetta

The question still remains, why were ER resources used when there are other, less expensive alternatives available?


48 posted on 07/05/2011 3:35:55 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Because the ER is the only thing my mother would ever consider. She would view the “other alternatives” as for the indigents and thus would never go. She’s very narrow in many respects.


49 posted on 07/05/2011 3:40:19 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: All

solution??? raise taxes


50 posted on 07/05/2011 3:43:17 PM PDT by newnhdad
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