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Documents confirm Obama administration’s ‘catch and release’ immigration policy
Washington Examiner ^ | 7/7/11 | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 07/07/2011 7:10:51 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: sickoflibs
The reason why I clarify the differences between this and ‘real’ amnesty is because ... while I understand some may want to call it ‘amnesty’ to increase the outrage over this Obama act (non-enforcement) we all don't like, if we were to press the argument that what Obama is doing IS the same as amnesty, then that COULD be used by amnesty RINOs as a argument for REAL amnesty (aka reform) which would be even worse.

Your point is well taken.

21 posted on 07/08/2011 12:48:55 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; Liz; calcowgirl

That point wasnt directly to you as you pointed out the differences between amnesty and Obama’s non-enforcement as I did. It was to others on the ping list that wondered why they werent the same things.

I did a search of amnesty threads in early 2007 and found that RINOs here regularly used term ‘Sham-nesty (meaning Bush not enforcing immigration laws) as an argument to promote new legal Bush/McCain amnesty laws, seems like stupid logic still. Obviously Obama is using a similar strategy as Bush on this :”If you want it fixed tell congress to pass immigration reform”


22 posted on 07/08/2011 1:19:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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Sham-nesty (meaning Bush not enforcing immigration laws) as an argument to promote new legal Bush/McCain amnesty laws

Similar to Napolitan's let-em-go DHS, also claiming that "comprehensive immigration reform" is the solution.

Here is the same old song and dance: "They have not enforced immigration laws. We need shiny new immigration laws with new enforcement policies we can ignore."

23 posted on 07/08/2011 2:02:57 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

You nailed it


24 posted on 07/08/2011 6:26:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; Liz; calcowgirl; TigersEye

You all “get” it.

Now, how do we STOP it?


25 posted on 07/08/2011 6:56:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; Liz; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”You all “get” it. Now, how do we STOP it?

You cant. If I had a genie in a bottle I would have Republicans go out and make a huge issue of illegals and the Democrat's plans for them relating it to economic and fiscal issues(getting them addicted to the welfare state) , which are the only issues the general voter 'seems' to care about right now. (exhibit SS marriage and DADT disinterest.)

The RINO party is absolutely terrified of pro-amnesty Hispanics and how Democrats would whip them up into a frenzy against them as they did in NV with Harry Reid , calling Republican racists that hate Hispanics. Democrats will always respond to Republican's talking about the above with :”Undocumented Hispanics don't want welfare like you accuse them of, they just want to work to become part of the American dream “ which to Democrats means addicted to welfare, but they wont admit it outright.

Sorry, we are screwed. Didn't you pick that up in 2007 and 2008 ? the only thing holding back illegals and amnesty now is high unemployment, so Obama will follow GWBs lead and just ignore illegals here.

26 posted on 07/08/2011 8:33:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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Ping!


27 posted on 07/08/2011 10:08:19 AM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: sickoflibs

” Sorry, we are screwed. Didn’t you pick that up in 2007 and 2008 “

hell YES!


28 posted on 07/08/2011 10:59:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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You all “get” it. Now, how do we STOP it?

Just keep connecting the dots and spread the news. Here is a thread that connects two major dots. Honduras? Why would ATF walk guns to Honduras? It's not hard to imagine that 0bama's immigration policies are tied into those two "projects."

29 posted on 07/08/2011 12:38:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Nachum
I wonder how many of the Mexican (or Honduran for that matter) nationals released were part of Fast & Furious.

5.56mm

30 posted on 07/08/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: TigersEye

Yep. I read about Honduras right here.


31 posted on 07/08/2011 12:45:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
There is something afoot that is much bigger than an assault on the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure that is a part of it but we're looking at a plan that spans the globe and is meant to alter the political and economic structures of nearly every nation in the world. I'm sure that idea is not news to you but we have to keep the bigger picture in mind when looking at any single issue such as immigration policy. The leftists and Islamofascists have a much more integrated plan in effect than we ever imagined before.

The vast majority of people will hate it if they can see it. We just have to keep working to expose it.

32 posted on 07/08/2011 3:25:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: TigersEye

“a plan that spans the globe and is meant to alter the political and economic structures of nearly every nation in the world. “

And Obama is merely the front man who is to-the-bone stupid
enough to think his controllers are just street Marxists like himself.


33 posted on 07/08/2011 4:15:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TigersEye

We have another problem; the MSM has been taken over by elitist Marxists who want to destroy our way of life. How do we get the word out when the media covers all of this evil up.


34 posted on 07/08/2011 4:18:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I think the MSM loses credibility every day. We just have to keep plugging along on the internets. Every time a story gets scooped by some blogger or contributor to a forum, like FR, more people begin to see what a farce the MSM is.

And, yes, 0bozo is a puppet who is in way over his head. Do you think he realizes that he is expendable? lol I don't.

35 posted on 07/08/2011 7:32:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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” Do you think he realizes that he is expendable? lol I don’t. “

Obama has been a con man since his HS days. The people who put him in there also know he is an egomaniac. No doubt they let him have his fun, but if he steps out of line?


36 posted on 07/08/2011 7:44:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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