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GOP's Turner Has a Fighting Chance for Weiner's House Seat
Human Events ^ | 07/18/2011 | John Gizzi

Posted on 07/18/2011 9:31:04 PM PDT by neverdem

“Bob Turner can put New York-9 in Republican hands for two reasons,” Mark Goret, New York Conservative Party state committeeman and Conservative leader from Riverdale, explained to HUMAN EVENTS. “First, he got 41% of the vote against [then-Democratic Rep. Anthony] Weiner last November, which is unheard of in the 9th.

“And second, he’s a businessman, a citizen-politician like Ronald Reagan. Republicans lost the last three special elections for Congress in New York State because all of the candidates were state legislators—Jim Tedesco [NY-20 in ’09], Dede Scozzafava [NY-23 in '10] and Jane Corwin [NY-26 in '11]—and voters hold politicians, and especially state legislators, in contempt.”

That was quite an analysis. But more than a few New Yorkers are beginning to agree with Goret: Retired cable television executive and 2010 Republican nominee Bob Turner just might win the Sept. 13 special election to replace Weiner, who resigned from the 9th District (Brooklyn-Queens) seat amid a nationally watched scandal,

HUMAN EVENTS spoke to the 70-year-old Turner days after he was nominated for the special election by the Republican and Conservative Parties. Recalling his stunning performance against Weiner last fall (long before the scandal involving lurid Twitter photos broke), Turner told us: “It was due in large part to all the volunteers that came out and to the diverse groups in the community that thought for themselves.”

By those groups, the candidate was referring to Orthodox and Russian Jews and the growing Vietnamese community—all important political players in the 9th District. In addition, where the 9th was long referred to as "the Brooklyn district" in the days when it was represented by Democratic Representatives Emanuel Cellar (1922-'72), Elizabeth Holtzman (1972-'80) and Chuck Schumer (1980-'98), recent redistricting has added significant portions of Queens to the district.

The tightly knit ethnic communities in the Queens portion of the district's Italian Catholic, Republican-leaning neighborhoods in Bergen Beach, Mill Basin, Marine Park, Canarsie, Glendale, Maspeth, Middle Village, Woodhaven, South Ozone Park and Howard Beach could swing the vote to Turner.

In terms of politics, the 9th, according to a recent analysis in National Journal, “trended more Republican than any other district in the country from the 2000 to the 2008 presidential election. Al Gore carried the district in a landslide, winning 67% of the vote. But it gave John Kerry just 56% in 2004, a striking 11-point dip. The gain was largely attributable to voters' strong support of George W. Bush's counterterrorism policies post-9/11, but four years, later John McCain carried the same 44% of the vote as Bush, even as President Obama significantly outperformed Kerry across the country.”

Put another way, New York-9 is actually more promising for Republicans than California-36, which had its special U.S. House race two weeks ago. CA-36 gave 64% of the vote to Obama, and the Republican candidate in the special election lost by only 55% to 45%.

"And Obama and his plans for raising taxes aren't popular here, just as ObamaCare wasn't popular when I ran last year," Turner told us. "I won't vote for anything that looks like a tax increase. I say let's stimulate business to create jobs and put people back to work—with cutting corporate taxes and offering tax credits for things like development and oil exploration. Reagan did it this way and it worked before. It will work again."

Area Democrats recently settled on State Assemblyman David Weprin as their nominee in the special election. The son of the late Assembly Speaker Saul Weprin, David's voting record is as liberal as it gets on economic and social issues, thus setting the stage for a classic ideological clash with Turner.

More than a few prominent New York Democrats have made it clear they are not enamored with Democratic nominee Weprin and may take a walk. Veteran Democratic State Assemblyman Dov Hikind has suggested he may break party lines to back Republican Turner. Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch, a Democrat who has backed Republicans in the past, made headlines recently when he hinted strongly he may support Turner because a Republican victory in the 9th would send a signal of disapproval of the Obama administration's policy toward Israel.

The same day as a new congressman is elected, there will be a special election in Queens to fill the seat of the Democratic assemblywoman who was named county clerk. Jane Deacy, Republican district leader, is thought to have a reasonable shot at winning the seat (which is within the boundaries of the 9th District) and, as Turner told us, "we help one another."

A Republican pickup of Anthony Weiner's district on Sept. 13 would send political shock waves nationwide. It is, to be sure, a long shot. But it could happen. David Pietrusza, historian and author who knows all things New York, put it best: "Turner will have to hang Weprin's liberal voting record around his neck. He needs to catch all the breaks and make some of his own, but his strong race against Weiner puts him within striking distance."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bobturner; newyork; turner; weinergate

1 posted on 07/18/2011 9:31:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Since Weiner has quit, this can’t quite be dubbed the Weiner-Turner contest can it? (Hot dog)


2 posted on 07/18/2011 9:32:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution)
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To: neverdem
More than a few prominent New York Democrats have made it clear they are not enamored with Democratic nominee Weprin and may take a walk.

Things are getting pretty crazy in New York these days.

3 posted on 07/18/2011 9:33:33 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: neverdem

Did anyone ever say if Weiner’s wife was really pregnant or if they are divorcing?


4 posted on 07/18/2011 9:33:41 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: neverdem; randita; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Clemenza; justiceseeker93

A victory in this race would be pretty amazing.


5 posted on 07/18/2011 9:46:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: neverdem

Turner’s chances rest on 2012 being a much better year for Republicans than 2010. How likely does that seem?


6 posted on 07/18/2011 9:47:49 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: neverdem

I’ll believe it when I see it. The idiots in this district overwhelmingly backed Weiner to stay in office.


7 posted on 07/18/2011 9:48:25 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Sorry, but the GOP has no chance. Just as the GOP had no chance here in So. Cal last week. This is all pure fantasy.


8 posted on 07/18/2011 10:01:24 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: eater-of-toast

He won’t be voted on in 2012; this is a Special Election coming up in September.


9 posted on 07/18/2011 10:02:14 PM PDT by no dems (Never miss a chance to say "I love you" because you may never get the chance to say "goodbye".)
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To: no dems

Thanks for the correction.


10 posted on 07/18/2011 10:05:23 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: neverdem
Read this about the despicable, Dem candidate, David Weprin. Source: RedState Publication dated July 14, 2011.
Weprin ran last year for Assembly in a special election against another Jew, Bob Friedrich, who received the Republican nomination and championed for conservative values. Several days before the election, Weprin sent out a mailing to an area with a mostly Jewish population in which the image of a swastika was photo-shopped onto a crime scene, and accused Friedrich as “Extreme” because he “Doesn’t Think Hate Crimes Deserve Special Punishment.” With the use of the swastika, Weprin attacked Friedrich in a calculated manner, targeting Friedrich’s Jewishness and the Jewishness of the voters to prove his opponent’s supposed nonchalance towards hate crimes.
11 posted on 07/18/2011 10:08:29 PM PDT by no dems (Never miss a chance to say "I love you" because you may never get the chance to say "goodbye".)
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To: douginthearmy

I will be difficult for the Pubbie to take this seat but maybe the people who “overwhelmingly backed Weiner” will feel betrayed and disgusted enough to just sit this one out. And, maybe some, out of revenge against Weiner and to hurt his Party, will vote GOP.

p.s. And Ed Koch endorsing the GOP candidate doesn’t hurt.


12 posted on 07/18/2011 10:12:25 PM PDT by no dems (Never miss a chance to say "I love you" because you may never get the chance to say "goodbye".)
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To: neverdem
Let's hope so.

My family lived in this CD back when The Schmuck was its congressman.

The thought of electing someone who's not an embarrassment to the human race would have been unheard of a decade ago.

13 posted on 07/19/2011 12:29:36 AM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: neverdem

I’ll believe it when I see it happen.

Every election we’re told that a bunch of big, blue liberal districts might finally go conservative.

And every election, the big lib wins in a crushing landslide.

I hope a conservative replaces Weiner - but I don’t think it’s going to happen.


14 posted on 07/19/2011 12:40:54 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Weiner and Huma just celebrated their 1st anniversary in Miami.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/anthony-weiner-and-huma-dine-in-miami-while-ny-decides-whats-next-for-the-9th.html


15 posted on 07/19/2011 3:45:33 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Is Huma really preggers?

The article mentions Huma sporting "a baby bump" as she is being photographed outside the restaurant.

Leni

16 posted on 07/19/2011 4:01:55 AM PDT by MinuteGal (We need ObamaCare Like Nancy Pelosi Needs a Halloween Mask)
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To: no dems

So did that disgusting tactic work for the Rat? Did he win election for the assembly seat using those ads? If it did work him then you just know he will try it again.


17 posted on 07/19/2011 6:13:01 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Atlantan

I hope they stay in Miami.


18 posted on 07/19/2011 6:29:24 AM PDT by juliej
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To: neverdem

Human Events makes more mistaken predictions than Jimmy the Greek. This guy has no chance of getting the votes of the idiots who supported Weiner. They are going to do a 180 from the most despicable member of the House to someone rational? Never.


19 posted on 07/19/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: neverdem

I’m surprised that Chelsea Clinton wasn’t picked for the Dem candidate. This seems like the perfect setup for her.


20 posted on 07/19/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: no dems
but maybe the people who “overwhelmingly backed Weiner” will feel betrayed and disgusted
No, I think I was unclear.

After the allegations came out, while Weiner was on the 24H news cycle, outted as a total creep, while even his own party was demanding that he resign, his constituents overwhelmingly CONTINUED to back him and opposed his resignation. They are drones who will pull the "D" lever no matter what.

21 posted on 07/19/2011 9:40:13 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: neverdem

Sheer fantasy


22 posted on 07/19/2011 9:40:26 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Yes, he won election.

And yes, he's just as big an idiot as this article portrays.

23 posted on 07/19/2011 10:16:00 AM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; indylindy; Condor51; calcowgirl; sickoflibs; thouworm; ...

The propaganda for the special election has already started. Columnist Richard Cohen claimed Weiner is a victim of high-tech lynching-—and is attempting to transform Weiner into a victim-—the abused, innocent recipient of scurrilous Internet backlash.

Cohen claimed “no crime” was committed that his beloved Democratic Party should have retained the showboating loud-mouthed Weiner in Congress.

Of course, Cohen does not factor in character, aptitude and helping the nation succeed as prerequisites for a member of Congress.

Cohen’s article also backhandedly called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi a hero for putting party first to get Weiner to leave, as if some unwritten Dem blood code was violated.

Dem loyalty——like they’re gangland members-—is more important.

Cohen further believes that, like Bill Clinton, Weiner had his privacy invaded. Like the self-absorbed Weiner needed a memo that when you send photos of yourself holding your penis you might be exposed.

Cohen would not make these comments if it involved Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, or George W. Bush.

Like con artists, the Dem party has two sets of books- “Fairness for Us” but not for you.


24 posted on 07/19/2011 10:25:10 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; indylindy; Condor51; calcowgirl; sickoflibs; thouworm

” Like con artists, the Dem party has two sets of books- “Fairness for Us” but not for you.”

44.00 short ribs for us....Alpo for you ;-)


25 posted on 07/19/2011 10:46:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Exactly.

BTW, for all the Californians expressing negativity on this thread, this is not Los Angeles.

Yes, Turner is a distinct underdog, but the idea that you shouldn't support him because of that is absurd-it's the same mentality that's guiding the party apparatus, which is doing virtually nothing in this race.

I've already anted up 25 bucks because I hate everything Schumer-Weiner-Weprin represents, and the chance of dislodging this virus-even if only temporarily-is enough to garner my support.

I wish more Republicans in the City cared about changing it in a positive direction as they do about kvetching about how stupid its polity is.

26 posted on 07/19/2011 5:08:40 PM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Robert Turner Overdrive! Thanks neverdem.
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27 posted on 07/19/2011 6:35:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: douginthearmy

But, they are the stone-cold, hard-nosed, ultra-liberals. There will be some who are turned off by this whole debacle and not vote. Also, this is a “Special Election”. Not a whole lot of Dems are motivated to get out and vote in a special election. The Conservatives on the other hand, will crawl over broken glass to get to the polling place for this one.


28 posted on 07/20/2011 6:50:44 AM PDT by no dems (Never miss a chance to say "I love you" because you may never get the chance to say "goodbye".)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Yeah; it worked for him. But, this time, Former Mayor Ed Koch, a highly respected JEWISH politician is encouraging people to vote for the GOP cadidate. And, this election is more high-profile than an assembly seat election. It will be more difficult to for him to “smut” himself to victory.


29 posted on 07/20/2011 6:57:36 AM PDT by no dems (Never miss a chance to say "I love you" because you may never get the chance to say "goodbye".)
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To: no dems

BTTT.


30 posted on 07/20/2011 8:51:04 AM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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