Civitas Poll: In Potential Matchup, Texas Gov. Rick Perry Ahead of Obama (In NC)

NC Civitas ^ | July 18, 2011 | Katie Trout

[Clairity]

Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry leads Barack Obama 45 percent to 42 percent among North Carolina voters in a potential presidential matchup, according to a new poll released by the Civitas Institute.

Republican (81 percent Perry - 8 percent Obama) and Democratic voter (17 percent Perry - 69 percent Obama) support falls along party lines between the potential candidates. Unaffiliated voters, the fastest growing voter segment in the state, would choose Perry over Obama by a 53 percent to 32 percent margin.

[Clairity]

Good news! Perry is getting the independents too.

[SoConPubbie]

Perry is just GWB II where Illegal Immigration is concerned.

He says one thing when he thinks people aren’t paying attention, and then another when he is running for some office.

What is really telling, is his coming out against AZ1070, the one law that would fix the problem at the state level.

It makes Perry “All Hat and No Cattle” where Illegal Immigration is concerned.

He is real big on saying symbolic stuff, but his record is next to empty where actually solving the problem is concerned.

He’ll say anything to get elected.

[SoConPubbie]

Provided by Freeper trumandogz:

In 1988 he headed the Gore campaign in Texas

1n 2008 he endorsed Rudy

As Texas governor he has:

Signed legislation to provide in-state tuition for illegal aliens.

Signed legislation to prohibit teens from using tanning salons.

Signed legislation to require high school athletes to be tested for steroids.

Signed legislation requiring adults to wear seat belts in the backseat of cars.

Attempted to mandate that 11 year old girls be vaccinated against HPV.

Signed legislation to give away billions of Tax dollars in the Texas Stimulus bills which gave hundreds of million of dollars to Formula One Racing, The NFL, the NBA, Sematech and Samsung,

[SoConPubbie]

Perry to stick by law giving tuition breaks to illegal immigrants

[SoConPubbie]

Vicente Fox Thanks Governor Perry

[org.whodat]

BS, it was push polling and had 600 people. Question ask, if Perry had won the primary and you voted today. Question removes all options.

[freespirited]

I’m bothered by the immigration stands, too, but the country will not survive four more years of Obummer. I will gladly vote for Perry if he is the GOP nominee.

[SoConPubbie]

Information courtesy of af_vet_rr:

Gov. Perry and the Texas Dream Act

[snip]

That FR thread you're linking to is based on this Houston Chronicle Article, which in turn quotes from this speech: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.

We also know that poverty is not unique to either side of the border. Some of Texas’ poorest citizens live in colonias all along the border. They often lack basic infrastructure many of us take for granted. Just today, the North American Development Bank announced it will provide $6.3 million in funding to hook up colonia residents in six border cities to water and wastewater lines. More than 18,000 residents will benefit from these water or wastewater hookups. And this November, by approving Proposition 2, Texas voters can ensure that their neighbors in colonias have quality roads so that school buses, emergency vehicles and postal trucks can reach residents, and residents can get to a job or a school reliably.

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.

Open borders, "bi-national health insurance", what a conservative that Perry is :)

Gov. Perry and the Texas Dream Act

[snip]

That FR thread you're linking to is based on this Houston Chronicle Article, which in turn quotes from this speech: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.

We also know that poverty is not unique to either side of the border. Some of Texas’ poorest citizens live in colonias all along the border. They often lack basic infrastructure many of us take for granted. Just today, the North American Development Bank announced it will provide $6.3 million in funding to hook up colonia residents in six border cities to water and wastewater lines. More than 18,000 residents will benefit from these water or wastewater hookups. And this November, by approving Proposition 2, Texas voters can ensure that their neighbors in colonias have quality roads so that school buses, emergency vehicles and postal trucks can reach residents, and residents can get to a job or a school reliably.

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.

Open borders, "bi-national health insurance", what a conservative that Perry is :)

[SoConPubbie]

More information courtesy of af_vet_rr

2007: [excerpt] "Perry, in Mexico with a Texan trade mission seeking opportunities in areas like renewable energy, said the federal government’s plan to build a wall along much of the border to keep out illegal immigrants was “idiocy.”

“We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy,” Perry told a briefing with reporters.

Thank you for posting this before I did. This Houston Chronicle article from the day after the Reuters article you posted expands on Perry's thoughts:

MEXICO CITY — Leading a large delegation of Texas executives trying to drum up business in Mexico, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers.

"I don't think this is that difficult an issue if Congress would have the maturity to sit down and really discuss it and cut out all the mean rhetoric," Perry said during a break in the third day of meetings with Mexican officials and business executives.

"We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy," he said of Texas' undocumented workers, most of whom hail from Mexico. "The vast, vast majority of those individuals want to come and work and take care of their families."

Perry made the remarks in Mexico City, where immigration is nearly as big a hot-button issue as it is in Washington. He spoke at a press conference shortly before meeting with President Felipe Calderon who, like past Mexican presidents, has lobbied for changes in U.S. immigration law that would include a guest-worker program.

Perry's statements seemed to put him at odds with many in the Republican Party's base who regarded the immigration overhaul bill that collapsed in the Senate in June as nothing more than an amnesty for illegal immigrants.

I'd further expand with comments he made the previous year, in 2006, about the need for a guest worker program (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/):

But to me neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer. The first unfairly rewards those who broke our laws, and the latter is not only unrealistic and unenforceable, but it would devastate our economy. That’s why I support a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status

2007: [excerpt] "Perry, in Mexico with a Texan trade mission seeking opportunities in areas like renewable energy, said the federal government’s plan to build a wall along much of the border to keep out illegal immigrants was “idiocy.”

“We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy,” Perry told a briefing with reporters.

Thank you for posting this before I did. This Houston Chronicle article from the day after the Reuters article you posted expands on Perry's thoughts:

MEXICO CITY — Leading a large delegation of Texas executives trying to drum up business in Mexico, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers.

"I don't think this is that difficult an issue if Congress would have the maturity to sit down and really discuss it and cut out all the mean rhetoric," Perry said during a break in the third day of meetings with Mexican officials and business executives.

"We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy," he said of Texas' undocumented workers, most of whom hail from Mexico. "The vast, vast majority of those individuals want to come and work and take care of their families."

Perry made the remarks in Mexico City, where immigration is nearly as big a hot-button issue as it is in Washington. He spoke at a press conference shortly before meeting with President Felipe Calderon who, like past Mexican presidents, has lobbied for changes in U.S. immigration law that would include a guest-worker program.

Perry's statements seemed to put him at odds with many in the Republican Party's base who regarded the immigration overhaul bill that collapsed in the Senate in June as nothing more than an amnesty for illegal immigrants.

I'd further expand with comments he made the previous year, in 2006, about the need for a guest worker program (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/):

But to me neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer. The first unfairly rewards those who broke our laws, and the latter is not only unrealistic and unenforceable, but it would devastate our economy. That’s why I support a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status

[SoConPubbie]

I’m bothered by the immigration stands, too, but the country will not survive four more years of Obummer. I will gladly vote for Perry if he is the GOP nominee.

I'll reluctantly vote for him, he is at the bottom of my list because of his lack of honesty on this subject and others.

If he gets elected, get ready for some type of amnesty bill, because with his Open-Border proclivity, and his Globalist mentality, it's coming.

[TwoSwords]

I don’t remember who it was but 2-3 yrs ago, during the last big amnesty push, some cabinet member or Senator said it was stupid for people to be against amnesty as once illegals were legitimized their taxes would pay for others social security. Amnesty will eventually be approved, for this reason only. Sucks to be us.

[cookcounty]

Because of census reapportionment, all the GOP needs is:

1) the same states as McCain won,
2) plus Ohio,
3) Florida,
4) and just one more state of any size.

The Dem governor of Colorado said this week that if the election was today, there is no way Obama could take the state.

[SoConPubbie]

I don’t remember who it was but 2-3 yrs ago, during the last big amnesty push, some cabinet member or Senator said it was stupid for people to be against amnesty as once illegals were legitimized their taxes would pay for others social security. Amnesty will eventually be approved, for this reason only. Sucks to be us.

Since 70%+ of the American public are against it, I don't think your prognostication is correct.

Even if you think it really is, will you stop fighting against it, if it violates your principles?

[TwoSwords]

I don’t want it at all. I feel that countries, and specifically, ethnicities, make their own future based off of their past decisions. Plus their over-all intellect.
Obamacare was around 70% against and it was still passed, treacherously.
Our opinion doesn’t matter because our leadership doesn’t fear the populace. We’ve been tamed, big-time.

[truthfreedom]

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Quality Free Republic Perry Links : 2005
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Perry names judge in Houston (re-appoints judge who got the boot by voters in the GOP primary)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352512/posts
If Perry was anymore of a rino he would be grey with a horn in his forehead.

Perry, Hutchison stand apart on toll road legislation issue (Trans-Texas Corridor)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401995/posts
If this ole Texan has anything to do with it he won’t be re-elected. Even if I have to vote for a dead democrat.

Plano, TX: “Officials lay bricks in symbolic start for Muslim center”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427422/posts
Gov. Rick Perry flew in to lay the first ceremonial brick for the center’s foundation.

Alternative plans for Trans-Texas Corridor take shape
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1355408/posts

[freespirited]

I’m not sure Boehner will be willing to move a shamnesty bill. Numbers USA gives him an A+ for “reducing amnesty enticements” and an A- for “reducing illegal jobs and presence.” Overall grade of B.

We must hold the house, that’s fer damn sure.

[af_vet_rr]

I’m not sure Boehner will be willing to move a shamnesty bill.

I hope you're right, but if Perry got in the White House, he's got powerful allies in the Senate who would support an amnesty/guest worker program. This is a man that just four years ago was publicly blasting the US Congress for not being "mature" enough to have a guest worker/amnesty program. This is a man who believes we shouldn't build a huge wall along the border and who thinks that deportation will wreck our economy, and that allowing the illegal immigrants to legally work here is not an amnesty program.

Perry is out there saying this stuff in public, he wants it bad, and he's not afraid to criticize those who stand in his way. It's actually kind of surprising how public Perry is about his desire for an amnesty/guest worker program.

He's also got some billionaire backers who benefit from that kind of labor. His donors are very familiar with 527 groups and could easily throw together some 527 groups in support of an amnesty/guest worker program, or 527 groups who would work against those who would oppose an amnesty/guest worker program.

Actually I suppose it's not really an amnesty program so much as it's a guest workers/open borders program - amnesty involves citizenship, and he probably doesn't want that. It's much cheaper and better for certain industries to have a guest workers program where they can cross back and forth over the border and work. That's more of an open borders type of program.

[CowboyJay]

After 10 yrs of Perry’s RINO leadership, Texas’ state finances are proportionally as bad or worse than California. Perry wants out of Austin in a hurry before the inevitable blowback hits. The GOP-E is leading him around by his ego, and using him as a blocking-back to clear a path for Romney by denying southern delegates to Palin or Bachmann.

Wake me up when ‘Mr Electable’ Perry starts polling above single digits with GOP primary voters outside the South.

[Theodore R.]

He is GWBII but GWB apparently dislikes him or did. People don’t understand “All hat and no cattle.”

[patriot08]

. "Perry is just GWB II where Illegal Immigration is concerned."

>Perry adds immigration issues to lawmaker session Perry wants passage of a measure requiring every person arrested to be run through the federal immigration databases as part of the Secure Communities program. He also wants to provide the state Department of Public Safety with the authority to make sure someone is in the U.S. legally before issuing a driver’s license.

>These measures, along with a ban on sanctuary cities, would “provide a clear message that Texas will not turn a blind eye to those breaking our laws,” Perry said in a statement. “Texas owes it to the brave law enforcement officials, who put their lives on the line every day to protect our families and communities, to give them the discretion they need to adequately do their jobs,” Perry said. http://www.rickperry.org/media-articles/perry-adds-immigration-issues-lawmakers-agenda-0?amp

>Gov. Perry has made numerous requests of the federal govt. to enforce the border in Texas including handing Pre. Obama a letter in person when he landed in Dallas last year. (Obama insults Perry when he turns away and Perry had to hand the letter on the illegals issue to presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett. Obama declined to personally accept it.)

>Gov. Perry refuses to meet/greet Obama in May 2011 at El Paso during his Texas tour.

Perry later declared, “If he wanted to meet, I was in Austin.

>Perry signed into law photo ID required before voting.

WHAT have other states done?? (with the exception of AZ Ok and Ga)

What have other candidates stated that they would do?

What has Sarah stated she would do?

What is Backmann’s plan?

What did Reagan do? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/06/rudy-giuliani/yep-reagan-did-the-a-word/

President Ronald Reagan was the first president in history to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. On November 6, 1986, he signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, [PUB L 99-603]. In so doing, he set a precedent whereby the United States would not seek to deport illegal aliens, but to reward their lawbreaking by granting them full citizenship.

NEWSFLASH! None of them are going to do much. We have to take the best of the lot.