Posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:38 AM PDT by AAABEST
But everything you mention is irrelevant and very silly.
The permanent political class is the biggest cause of our country’s decline. I haven’t heard Perry speak out against it.
“Palin herself is really part of the “permanent political class” as she has been in politics since 1992.”
It’s not defined by length of time in office, but by the willingness to sell out your obligations to your constituents in exchange for personal or political favors.
In other words, entry into the Permanent Political Class requires selling yourself out. It can happen on the first day in office.
Bachmann’s position on ethanol doesn’t make it right for Perry to slip a favor to his chief of staff, so Merck can pocket a few million.
Editor-surveyor has convinced himself that Rupert Murdoch paid Scott Rasmussen money to produce phony polls showing a lack of support for Palin in the GOP primaries.
You’re right. He’s a nutcase.
Editor-surveyor has convinced himself that Rupert Murdoch paid Scott Rasmussen money to produce phony polls showing a lack of support for Palin in the GOP primaries.
You’re right. He’s a nutcase.
If Cain agrees with Palin, good. In that case, it’s not a viable alternative, it’s agreement with her.
Palin happens to be the only one with the record proving she will fight against it at great personal risk.
Cain can speak against the permanent political class all he wants, but it’s kind of like making the claim that piloting a jet looks easy.
“Ironic, aint it?”
Yeah, it would seem that hypocrisy and presidential politics seem to go hand in hand. Even more galling is that neither candidate will just stand back and do the right thing. All they have to do is sayu something like this: “I made a mistake in doing X. My motivation for doing so was Y, if I had it to do over again, I would have done Z. But this is like any other job. You make mistakes. And I’ve made a few. The question is whether you learn from those mistakes and not repeat them. I learned Q from this mistake.”
The damning thing is that neither candidate seems to have the character to tell their political advisors to stick a sock in it while they step up and do the right thing.
We’re just not at a point in our history where we can afford another blown-dry politician with a good team of marketing advisors. Our next President needs to have some substance and character, not to mention some inner principles and courage. So far the top tier of announced candidates seems lacking.
Perry should definitely admit it was a mistake, admit he was mislead by a former associate, and that he has learned from it. Done.
Bachmann meanwhile continues to support ethanol (from what I can tell.)
But you’re right, these stupid advisors that tell them never admit a mistake should be ignored.
Not for your benefit, since you seem to have an incurable case of wilful ignorance, but for the benefit of others, a real brief history of the polio vaccine:
“in 1953, there were 35,000 new cases of polio in the United States. In 1954, Salk’s vaccines were tested in massive trials sponsored by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis. More than 1.8 million children-—called Polio Pioneers-—took the vaccine, took a placebo or took neither. The success of the trials was announced in a press conference in 1955 and by 1957, after mass immunization began, the United States had only 5,600 new cases. In 1962, the Sabin oral vaccine came into use and by 1964, there were only 121 new cases of polio reported in the United States. In 1979, the last case of indigenous polio occurred in the United States.”
So polio went from 35,000 cases / year to zero thanks to the vaccine. With the work of foundations and international aid groups, polio vaccine is on the verge of eliminating it worldwide.
Read more: The History of the Polio Vaccine | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5373044_history-polio-vaccine.html#ixzz1XtbmFMwR
Any of us born in the 1960s were spared a risk from this dread disease that crippled and killed many in prior generations.
>> “The permanent political class is the biggest cause of our country’s decline. I haven’t heard Perry speak out against it.” <<
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Cuz he is it.
>> “Editor-surveyor has convinced himself that Rupert Murdoch paid Scott Rasmussen money to produce phony polls...” <<
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Carling, I keep forgetting how stupid you are, but you’re always so kind as to remind me!
Push-polls are not phony, they are just a sample of an unrepresentative crossection.
Push polling is the only kind that ever sees the light of day this far before the campaign begins.
And it is notable that you cannot recognize the fact that he used a different pollster this year, who has strong ties to Rick-the-dick Perry.
The 35000 cases were an insignificant number, and most of those cases were extremely mild, with no lasting consequences.
After the introduction of the salk vaccine, serious paralytic polio spiked, and deaths too. It was caused by the vaccine. I had several friends that were disabled by the vaccine caused disease, in 1955 if my memory serves. It was prepared by Cutter Labs of Berkeley.
I found myself in an interesting position shortly thereafter, when my closest cousin married the only son of the CEO of Cutter. It was really sticky when I asked him if he would like to meet some of the victims of his product.
“The 35000 cases were an insignificant number, and most of those cases were extremely mild, with no lasting consequences.”
You heartless moron. You have been blinded by your stupid anti-vaccine nuttiness. 3,000 deaths is ‘mild’?!?!
1949: In the US, 2,720 deaths occurred from polio, and 42,173 cases were reported.
1952: in The US, polio killed 3,300; 57,628 cases reported.
This was BEFORE the vaccine. Once the vaccine was used, polio was drastically reduced, deaths declined to a fraction of that in 1952, and within 25 years polio was wiped out in the US.
Read more: Major U.S. Epidemics — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001460.html#ixzz1Xu303tmW
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oh and before I forget, didn't they teach you this in school?
please feel free to PROVE your bonafides for Sarah Palin dear...aside from being a bolt groupie
You proved better than I could have exactly why I don't much cotton to Palin zealots here anymore than the PDS crowd. I appreciate your help.
“It’s not 55 deaths, but millions of deaths prevented worldwide by vaccinations over the years. “
“And parents are too dumb to realize this without a gov’t mandate to vaccinate?”
WOW, what a statement!
Are you a parent? Have you MET some of the other parents out there? When you have anti-vaccine nutters out there dumb enough to actually twist the vaccine story upside down, convincing some parents that life-saving vaccines will cause retardation (Bachmann just advanced retardation about this issue with her comment) and you have Casey Anthony types out there, you really have to ask?
If youre a parent, you know the score - kids in daycare become germ buckets and disease carriers. Once they interact with other kids, they can pick up anything. I’ve had my share of coughs and colds, in past 15 years invariably picked up from our 2-5 YOs over the years, in fact I have a sore throat right now - start of year they pick it up and pass it on. Mine did. It’s one reason why I think daycare for under 1 year-olds is a travesty (but guess what, millions of kids are in them, arent they).
But that’s just colds and flu. Make it diptheria or measles and we are talking a more serious problem.
9 out of 10 parents will do the right thing. But 1 out of 10 ‘parents’ put their kids at risk in many stupid ways. Schools require vaccinations because without that ‘mandate’ many more kids would be carrying many more serious diseases and epidemics through the schools, harming other kids. The stats are clear on this - the California whooping cough case is just one example.
FWIW, that mandate with an opt-out is far far less burdensome than other laws, mandates and rules - from seatbelt rules to CPS powers - and does far more good than 99% of other Govt laws. To pick on this one real example of public health policy that works is frankly bizarre.
Do you have any idea how many millions have been in some way disabled by vaccines, or how many millions more have prematurely died?
And you so disingenuously moan about 4000?
You’re disgusting.
Well you just carry on with your PDS but keep this in mind:
Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:58:22 PM • 482 of 814
Jim Robinson to onyx; DJ MacWoW
I’ve already put a couple notorious thumpers on notice that if they’ve not already been zotted before hand, the day she announces and they’re continuing to trash her, they get the zot. Guaranfreepingteed!
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